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Edwird -> Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 5:09:08 PM)

Energy industry says 'no thanks' to Trump offer of marine sanctuaries

WASHINGTON/LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - In a bid to boost energy development, U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration is considering shrinking or eliminating 11 marine sanctuaries designed to protect 425 million acres of coral reefs, marine mammal habitats and pristine beaches.

The review is part of a broader strategy to open new areas to oil and gas drilling and “put the energy needs of American families and businesses first,” according to the order Trump signed in April that triggered it.

But interviews with energy industry representatives signal the effort will likely miss its target. Opening up these areas would likely help wind power companies - which Trump has lambasted - more than oil producers, they say. And neither industry is interested because of the high costs of offshore development, comparatively rich opportunities on land and the public relations headaches of developing protected oceanscapes.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

The U.S. Commerce Department is scheduled to issue its recommendations on the sanctuaries, located in the Pacific, the Great Lakes, and the Atlantic, next month. Most public comments submitted to Commerce favored preserving existing sanctuaries.

For a graphic on the protected marine areas, see: tmsnrt.rs/2y7IWS5

While it is unclear how much oil the sanctuaries contain, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management estimates that the Pacific Offshore Continental Shelf holds 10 billion barrels – enough to last the United States nearly two years. Some of that oil may overlap with marine sanctuaries off California’s coast.

But the industry has little interest in drilling there.

“Our members are not currently pursuing this opportunity,” said Catherine Reheis-Boyd, the president of the Western States Petroleum Association, referring to four marine sanctuaries off California’s coast that are under review.

The WSPA represents major integrated companies including Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron, and ConocoPhillips, and is focused on the region that would be most affected by the review.

Officials for those companies did not respond to requests for comment.

Other sanctuaries under review include the Thunder Bay Sanctuary in the Great Lakes, the Northeast Canyons and Seamounts in the Atlantic, and sites off Hawaii, American Samoa, and the Northern Mariana Islands.

Government offshore drilling lease data reviewed by Reuters shows the oil industry is bidding on less offshore acreage with less money than it has in years, in part because onshore reserves have become easier to tap with new drilling technology.

The average price drillers have bid for available offshore drilling leases in the Central Gulf of Mexico, for example, declined to about $300 per acre this year, from more than $700 per acre in 2013.

Even so, U.S. oil and gas production has surged because of the onshore boom: Production hit 8.85 million barrels per day in 2016, from 5.09 million a decade earlier, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

“It is clear we don’t need to take from every portion of our oceans and coasts to maintain a healthy energy economy,” Democratic lawmakers on the House Natural Resources Committee wrote in July in a letter opposing the sanctuary review.
THANKS, BUT NO THANKS

Drillers’ groups such as the American Petroleum Institute and the National Ocean Industries Association have expressed support for the review, mainly on the grounds that it sends a strong signal of federal support for the oil industry.

Neal Kirby, a spokesman for the Independent Petroleum Producers of America, said that “it’s possible to find the appropriate balance between safety, protecting the environment, and making sure we can move forward with responsible offshore energy development.”

Trump had campaigned on a promise to bolster U.S. fossil fuels production by repealing environmental rules he says unnecessarily hinder drilling and mining. So far he has moved to roll back carbon emissions limits, lift curbs on federal energy leasing, and ease permitting requirements.

The Department of the Interior completed a separate but similar review in August of some 27 national monuments across the country, which include vast areas of protected land.

The recommendations from that review have not been announced, but a leaked version obtained by the Washington Post showed Interior will recommend shrinking some of the monuments where energy resources are available or industries like commercial fishing and timber want more access.
SOLUTION WITHOUT A PROBLEM

Wind industry representatives say that firms could power more than 16 million homes by erecting wind turbines on California’s marine sanctuaries - but they would rather look for growth in places where such development is cheaper and less controversial.

California’s waters are deep, requiring costly and unproven floating wind turbine technology. Development there would likely also face onerous state regulatory hurdles and potential public opposition.

“The American Wind Energy Association is not advocating for re-visiting any (marine sanctuary) designations,” said Evan Vaughn, spokesman for AWEA. “In general, the designations have not been a barrier to offshore wind development.”

Trump has long criticized wind power as unreliable, producing only when weather permits. He has also called the industry’s turbines unsightly – at one point fighting a project within view of one of his Scotland golf course.

Michel Conathan, oceans policy director at the Center for American Progress, a progressive policy advocacy group, said the sanctuary review appeared to hold mostly symbolic value given the lack of oil and wind industry demand.

“The reality is it is not going to happen unless something drastic happens with the economics,” he said."









MrRodgers -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 5:19:51 PM)

Some pretty damning sarcasm there and I smiled too. 'Marxists NFL owners' is a good one.

However, we continue to see the prevailing culture of profits over everything else when without anyone even looking to marine reserves...we get this.

Just another attempt at consummating the American business culture, that earth and life itself exists not just for a profit but for more profit and anywhere it can be found.




Edwird -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 5:21:19 PM)


Fine.

First we have Marxist NFL owners speaking out in support of players and their shenanigans reminiscent of MLK's "Letter from an Alabama Jail." Okay, so maybe "Letter from a 15 bedroom cottage on an Eastern Shore of Connectucut" in this case, but the point remains.

And now we have at least one hysterical leftist oil company waking up to reality and expanding the business to accommodate the demand for car battery recharging.

And, the the most egregious offense of all, several hysterical leftist oil companies now refuse to take Trump's open invitation to despoil ocean environment in service to perpetuating more black smoke.

That's about as commie as it gets.

Many people don't know that Rexonn Tillerson wears a red bandana on his head when doors locked.

I don't know what this world is coming to.




Edwird -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 5:26:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Some pretty damning sarcasm there and I smiled too. 'Marxists NFL owners' is a good one.



I edited to put the commentary in a separate post, but thanks for the nod.

It was actually bozo x who (not surprisingly) first touched on the Marxist intent in all this in the "NFL owners" OP earlier, give credit where it's due. I was just paying tribute to supreme lunacy.





heavyblinker -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 9:46:41 PM)

Seems the energy companies have actually come face to face with the apex of the anti-scientific, anti-environmental attitudes that they effectively created... and recoiled in horror.




Edwird -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 10:08:30 PM)

So be it.

I might be wrong, but it's possible that the world turns.

The fallout from incessant invasions, which being all the increase in worldwide terrorism, might have made them take a look at things. Even taken a step back, consequences considered.

And, think; all the guys they hired to purpose of refuting global warming might have come back to the executives and said "holy shit!"




Edwird -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/29/2017 10:21:23 PM)

Humongous oil companies don't come to decision as involve hundreds of millions in investment based on ideology, and bless them for that.

But there is some little hint in the article I alluded to which might indicate that things are turning 'differently.'





BoscoX -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/30/2017 5:53:11 AM)


If you weren't insane you would see that your thread headline doesn't match the Reuters article that you posted

As slanted as Reuters is, even they don't see the bizarre make-believe world that you do




MasterObsidiann -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/30/2017 8:44:12 AM)

The price of Black Gold is at a near all time historic low. The rest of the world is aligned in a concerted effort to shift further away from dependency on the barrel of oil-muck.

There was no sense in him, or his team being tasked, trying to curtail acreage from national monuments and parks. It’s almost as if he cannot count or run a business, let alone a nation.

If I was a Company I would prefer to make 2 dollars on one barrel of oil as opposed to one dollar. I want money and reasonable profits and returns, but not to the levels of abhorrent obscenity.




Tkman117 -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/30/2017 11:52:52 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


If you weren't insane you would see that your thread headline doesn't match the Reuters article that you posted

As slanted as Reuters is, even they don't see the bizarre make-believe world that you do


...it was sarcasm...




WhoreMods -> RE: Hysterical Leftist Oil Companies Defy Trump (9/30/2017 11:56:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


If you weren't insane you would see that your thread headline doesn't match the Reuters article that you posted

As slanted as Reuters is, even they don't see the bizarre make-believe world that you do


...it was sarcasm...

Also an objection that's pretty funny when you look at its poster's posting history.




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