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heavyblinker -> RE: Kasich gonna resign from GOP (10/2/2017 1:31:14 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
You do understand this is how democracy works right? Trump repackaged NOTHING!
He understood what majority wanted. And he campaign on the issues that matter to them!
Well, no he didn't... because he didn't win in a landslide, and he didn't win the popular vote.
The majority either didn't vote or voted for Hillary.
That's exactly how Hitler came to power as well... he didn't seize power through force (except through voter intimidation, which the GOP also practices), he was democratically elected.
And like Trump, he wasn't loved by all, and was routinely mocked and belittled as a non-threat... but he also tapped into the angry populist vote.
He then used it to destroy democracy and establish a brutal totalitarian regime.
I have never said that Trump didn't have appeal.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Hillary insulted them and dismissed them instead of listening to their concerns. Guess what? In a democracy, people vote for people who they feel is listening to them and giving a damn about their concerns. Hillary was appealing to the wrong crowd. She didn't do her calculation right. In terms of how US election works, where she actually needs to win over states, not majority of the population which majority are in left leaning states. She was not pandering to the correct issues. And on top of that, she also blame Bernie for making unrealistic campaign ideas which drew her potential voters away from her. But guess what? Both Bernie and Trump have listened to the working class people, and BOTH offered two different solutions to the same problem. Hillary was the only one, who was like fuck care about them, they were too ignorant and uneducated to deserve her time, all she needed was all the rich people's vote. Which was her downfall, and she dare to blame Bernie too.
It's just like Myammar Aung getting alot of shit for doing nothing about Rohingyas. But reality of the matter is overwhelming majority of Myammar locals want Rohingyas OUT OF THE COUNTRY! Like 90%. If she wants to stay "elected" in the country to enable any kind of change. She needs to stick with what majority wants.
Again, the majority DIDN'T want Trump.
And the problem with Hillary is that she thought that people would look at Trump and see him for what he was.
Sadly, that didn't happen.
She knew what she was talking about, knew the solutions weren't simple, knew what to realistically offer and expect-- the problem is that reality is at odds with what people want to hear.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Welcome to democracy!
When my country complains to the government about too much foreigners in Singapore. The government has to respect what majority wants and start cutting down the foreign worker quota. Which they listened and did. As the year they ignored us, we voted more opposition into the parliament. And when they listened, they got 70% win again.
That's democracy again.
Even if that were true, the problem is that people are too stupid for democracy to work.
Here's the article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2108341/Is-reason-democracy-work-Study-humans-dumb-pick-right-person-lead-us.html
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According to the theory, the democratic process relies on the assumption that a majority of citizens recognise the best political candidate, or best policy idea, when they see it.
But a growing body of research has implied that democratic elections produce mediocre leadership and policies.
Research led by Professor David Dunning, a psychologist at Cornell University, shows incompetent people are inherently unable to judge the competence of other people, or the quality of those people's ideas.
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