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BamaD -> RE: The original arguments FOR the second amendment (10/11/2017 1:16:21 PM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Music,
55% of Americans support stricter back ground checks, I am one of those people.
However, and I wish to point this out, a stricter back ground check wont work unless the system is changed, meaning every court and mental health provider be required by federal law to report any condition of a person that would put them in the prohibit to purchase category.
The fact that it isnt seems lost on just about every gun control advocate here.
How about this, yes it is illegal to buy a gun in a state where you are not a resident, so you have to either buy it online (which means a background check is run) and have it shipped to a licensed dealer.
But, when that back ground check is run, and if the purchaser does not show up and gets a 'proceed with sale' result, did you know, by internet or in person, at no point does the system ask if sale were made?
Once the back ground check comes back, that is where it stops as far as the ATF is concerned, or I should say, the system that runs the back ground check actually. The ATF actually has a few conditions that raise flags on multiple sales over a certain number.
Then there the gun registration problem.
There are those who say gun registration is the first step to confiscation, which in my opinion is a stretch, since unless the 2nd amendment is repealed or some president decides to completely ignore the constitution and do something bizarre, it cant happen.
Unless, the gun owner's status changes from legally allowed to own guns to prohibited. In which case, the Federal gun laws already have that covered, the owner has time to legally dispose (sell) or turn them in, before he can be charged with an illegal possession of firearm crime.
Hell the necessary paper work is already filled out at time of purchase, so why not just input it into a computer at the federal level, accessible by local law enforcement when they have a legitimate reason to access a citizens' records.
As it stands now, gun retailers have to keep those records on file, both paper and computerized for years.
However, my problem with gun registration is a little different, since for some fucked up reason, most states that have registration laws seem to want to allow every newspaper or individual access to the list, and in New York a few years ago, one such newspaper went so far as to publish the list.
I feel the information should be available to law enforcement only, right to privacy etc.
Registration leading to confiscation could be considered a stretch except for the following.
Ca made people register the SKS then decided that they were illegal and confiscated them.
Ny made people made people register "assault" weapons then confiscated them, these included
scoped bipod equipped bolt action rifles.
NO used registration to confiscate guns after Katrina.
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