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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/27/2017 12:33:05 PM   
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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/27/2017 1:37:54 PM   
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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/27/2017 2:42:30 PM   
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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/28/2017 5:21:29 AM   
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Good old Clash.

Certainly beats Rock The Casbah getting trotted out every time an Arab country gets invaded...

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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/29/2017 1:13:58 PM   
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The Catalan Govt is widely expected to declare independence in the next few days


Nope! Never gonna happen.

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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/29/2017 1:16:36 PM   
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The Catalan Govt is widely expected to declare independence in the next few days


Nope! Never gonna happen.

They can declare it whenever they want. It getting recognised, on the other hand, is a bit trickier...

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RE: Will Catalonia split from Spain? - 10/30/2017 4:35:33 AM   
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Can Catalonia succeed in forming an independent sovereign State? Will the central Govt succeed in thwarting the moves? Can rule from Madrid succeed in quelling the restive province? Will the situation be resolved without recourse to violence? How will the rest of the EU react?


Is there any method within the Spanish Constitution for an autonomous region to secede? Catalonia could be separate from Spain, relatively easily, as it is a border region (as opposed to, say, La Rioja, Madrid or Castilla la Mancha which would still be completely surrounded by Spain if it seceded), but within the Constitutional framework, is there a method for secession? If not, then the referendum and pronouncement are unConstitutional, and for Catalonia to be freed from the rest of Spain, there will be needed escalated actions.


As far as I know (and I am far from well-informed on this) there is no mechanism in the Spanish Constitution for any part of Spain to secede.

You are correct to state that any resolution will require "escalated actions". The central Govt in Madrid has just escalated the situation by dissolving the regional Catalan Govt and imposing direct rule. In response the Catalans are organising strikes and other methods of peaceful resistance. There is some talk of Catalan civil servants refusing to accept orders from Madrid etc. There is also talk of a new election in Catalonia in a few months time, but whether separtists leaders will allowed to participate is unclear. Indeed it is not even clear that they will still be around as they may be charged with sedition and in prison. Yesterday's pro-unity demonstration in Barcleona showed that there is significant anti-sepratist sentiment in Catalonia, further complicating the situation.

Where it will all go from here is anyone's guess. The prospects of a resolution in the short term seem bleak.

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