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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 8:52:04 AM   
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Why did no one go after the Uranium One scandal before now?


Because the GOP didn't need a distraction as badly as it does now.



Absolutely....LOL
The story planted in the Hill, gave grassley what he needed
hes been looking for something since january. and before that. The "only" thing republicans can agree on right now is Hillary is a "crook" and everything else can be ignored, because *hillary*.
And NOW russia is important,
poor muffins.



The problem with your ignorant hate spew is that The Hill is a 'Never Trump' publication, just as most establishment Republicans are 'Never Trumpers'

Your pretending that everyone in Washington is on the Trump bandwagon only proves (once again) that you are an idiot

It was supposed to be another Bush or another Clinton, never an outsider. That was never a choice, and it still isn't

It is Mueller who needs the distraction, his role covering up the Uranium One scandal is also coming to light

Mueller is in the midst of attempting a coup. He and Comey need to be locked up.

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 8:53:57 AM   
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Yes, surprise surprise, the FBI isn't sharing everything they know with the public.


The only things that are not leaked are the facts exonerating Republicans

Even Mueller's super-secret sealed grand jury indictment makes leftist-friendly CNN headlines. If Mueller isn't corrupt, he is a fucking clown


Maybe the 'facts' don't exist?
Have you even briefly considered that?


Just more evidence that leftists are in their hearts fascists. Out of the thousands and thousands of leaks, not one could even possibly be a pro-Republican leak. It's not possible in your eyes.


You are seriously like a bratty child upset because you didn't also get a present on your sister's birthday.
It's an investigation! It isn't about making sure everyone gets equal amounts of happiness and love!

How can this possibly be the way you view reality???

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 8:56:19 AM   
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You are seriously like a bratty child upset because you didn't also get a present on your sister's birthday.
It's an investigation! It isn't about making sure everyone gets equal amounts of happiness and love!

How can this possibly be the way you view reality???



Whoops, looks like I got another toy wound too tight...

Silly me

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 9:03:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


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Yes, surprise surprise, the FBI isn't sharing everything they know with the public.


The only things that are not leaked are the facts exonerating Republicans

Even Mueller's super-secret sealed grand jury indictment makes leftist-friendly CNN headlines. If Mueller isn't corrupt, he is a fucking clown


Maybe the 'facts' don't exist?
Have you even briefly considered that?


Just more evidence that leftists are in their hearts fascists. Out of the thousands and thousands of leaks, not one could even possibly be a pro-Republican leak. It's not possible in your eyes.


You are seriously like a bratty child upset because you didn't also get a present on your sister's birthday.
It's an investigation! It isn't about making sure everyone gets equal amounts of happiness and love!

How can this possibly be the way you view reality???


LMAO...projection much?

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 9:06:28 AM   
heavyblinker


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You are seriously like a bratty child upset because you didn't also get a present on your sister's birthday.
It's an investigation! It isn't about making sure everyone gets equal amounts of happiness and love!

How can this possibly be the way you view reality???



Whoops, looks like I got another toy wound too tight...

Silly me


And all you had to do was say incredibly stupid things.

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 9:59:53 AM   
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Did anyone watch FOXshit & schizo friends Hanity yesterday? I think that will haunt my fragile little soul for the rest of my life. I actually hid behind a pillow, and I haven’t did that since I was young and sane and watching DR Who and the Daleks.

"Russia" does not actually need 20% of America’s Uranium. And it is actually a Canadian Company….boscox the halfwit

If America wants a corruption purge then they should start with the one called “Trump” and the establishment, or that 2 man outfit somewhere who was awarded 300 million to restore Puerto Rico power. I envisage not one RWNJ would remain standing and most of em pesky Dems.

Perhaps fake news is a better place to start

I, an utter gent, would fill the power vacuum and enslave Americashire – although part of me thinks this has already occurred.

Anyway, I thought we all left the mining of rare earth material to the chinks?

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 7:46:02 PM   
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there is no evidence against the uranium one deal.
I wonder why bozo cant stay on topic, the topic has nothing to do with uranium one, its his distraction, his need to brush off the facts.
http://crooksandliars.com/2017/10/joy-ann-reid-and-panel-take-apart-uranium

Joy Ann Reid And Panel Take Apart The 'Uranium One' Lies

In case you missed it, right-wing media, led by Sean Hannity and Fox, have been pre-poisoning the political atmosphere, possibly in anticipation of an announcement by Mueller of indictments within Team Trump's Russian Collusion Cabal.

Certainly, the timing is suspect.

But the poison lies they've been telling are old and debunked. It's as if they are running out of conspiracies when it come to Hillary Clinton. Ya think?

The old lie Fox dug up to make Hillary and the DNC the "REAL" Russia colluders, has to do with a word salad including the words "uranium," "Russia," "deal," and "e-mails."

They toss the salad and voila, a weak-minded person might come away thinking that Hillary Cllinton personally wrote (and then deleted) 33,000 emails offering weapons-grade nuclear fuel for sale out of the State Department's offices in order to fund a world-take-over by the Clinton Foundation. Dr. Evil eat your heart out!

And Jen Kerns from the Washington Examiner was clearly on the Hillary as weapons dealer side. Poor Jen, she should know better than to bring that fight to the slayer of right-wing lie dragons, Joy Ann-Reid. Panel members Catherine Rampell and Eric Boehlert provided an assist, but really, this is Reid's show and she does not take prisoners.

Partial transcript follows:

REID: This does certainly seem to be coordinated. Were talking points issued by the Republican National Committee this week to Trump surrogates, to when asked about Russia collusion shift the story to Uranium One?

KERNS: Not in those words. The RNC does put out its research pieces. I think the RNC shop is quite good. A lot of the information sourced in there is independently verified. It includes sourcing from left wing media publications, the Washington Post, others that aren't Fox News. Look, I think it's important that the media is covering this issue, not just the Fusion GPS story but the Uranium One story.

REID: Why do you say that?

KERNS: Well, look, I think there are some new developments this week that make it worthy about coverage. The fact that Hillary Clinton and the DNc funded the GPS Trump dossier I think is quite relevant.

REID: As did a conservative Republican media outlet that actually began....

KERNS: That is true.

REID: But why does that matter, because here's the thing about the sealed dossier. Let's do that one first. Some of the information in it. Some of that actually checked out. So if in fact, that document contains relevant and valid information showing that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia or worked with Russian operatives in order to distort the results of the 2016 election, who cares whether the oppo-research was paid for by both a Republican and Democrat?

KERNS: Well look, I put it on the Washington Free Beacon. Just because a conservative outlet paid for it doesn't make it okay, and it also doesn't let Democrats off of the hook.

REID: The hook for what?

KERNS: None of the information has in the Trump dossier has checked out and been independently verified...

REID: That's not true.

KERNS: CBS News, who is no conservative publication has checked it out and they found several things that were actually outright false. Michael Cohen, Trump's own attorney had to produce dozens of documents to show he himself was not where the Trump dossier said he was.

REID: Okay, you're talking about the one thing in the dossier, and I'm not going to get reeled into a debate about whether or not the dossier, because this is actually what I suspect that those RNC talking points suggested that you do. When you get on a show like this, and we want to talk about Russia-gate, these indictments, that you should bring up Fusion GPS, and you should bring up Uranium One. Is that something you were told to do?

KERNS: No, absolutely not.

REID: Or something suggested you should do?

KERNS: No. Absolutely not. Look, I'm on the various mailing lists of the RNC. You might be on those lists as well. There is information. We're talking about it.

[…]

REID: Why should he resign from the investigation?

KERNS: Well, there are a couple of reasons. One, I'm sorry to say, does go back to the Fusion GPS piece...

REID: This goes back to. Look what you've done. Let me ask you a quick question before I bring in the rest of the panel. What about the Fusion deal, this is a deal in 2010 to sell a Canadian company to a Russian company, right? What about that deal is worthy of investigation?

KERNS: The Uranium One deal, you mean?

REID: Yeah.

KERNS: Look, the Uranium One deal is problematic because you have Hillary Clinton, who is presiding as the Secretary of State's office, we have evidence to show—and this came out in the last week or two—that there was a Russian spy who was getting close to Hillary Clinton, it was reported in the mainstream. You have Bill Clinton --

REID: This all is old news. (crosstalk) No, no, no. We're not going to get into that. I want to ask you a couple fact-based questions. Who got the money when the Canadian company was sold to the Russian company? The Uranium One? Who received the money?

KERNS: I presume the company.

REID: Yes. Okay, second question. Who approved the sale? Because when any sort of uranium or any company sells that type product, and by the way the uranium that's mined is mined right, is for nuclear power. It's not for nuclear bombs. Right? But when that happens there is an organization called CFIUS that approves it. Do you know what CFIUS that stands for?

KERNS: Yes. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

REID: How many people sit on the committee?

KERNS: Nine members.

REID: How many have to approve a deal like this?

KERNS: All nine of them.

REID: All nine.

KERNS: Absolutely.

REID: How many approved this deal?

KERNS: All nine of them.

REID: Did Hillary Clinton sit personally on that deal?

KERNS: No, but she pushed for it.

REID: Hold on. Who is the person who donated to Hillary Clinton who is related to and had an investment in uranium one? What is that person's name? Do you remember their name?

KERNS: They are board members of Uranium One donated up to I think it's a $143 million... to the Clinton Foundation.

REID: Did he own any assets in Uranium One at the time Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State?

KERNS: You know, I don't know that, but here's what I would...

REID: He did not. Sold them. (crosstalk)

KERNS: Here's what i would like to know.

REID: He sold them years before. So what you're talking about is a deal that nine members approved unanimously. None of them was Hillary Clinton. You have a donor who separately gave Hillary Clinton donations at a time when she was not Secretary of State. The two things cross in the night.

They have no relation to each other. The members of CFIUS have been very clear Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with that approving that deal. She would have had to strong arm eight people in order to get them to unanimously approve the deal and also the President of the United States would intervene if they saw any problems.

The CFIUS people say now that if that deal came before them today they would still approve it unanimously. There's actually nothing about the deal that's controversial. The only reason we're talking about it is because per your admission, which I think is very honest, the RNC would like us to be talking about this now.

There is video of the interview and a link to the youtube version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWVHtXZLW2I
the pertinent part starts at 44 minutes.

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RE: Trump Data Guru: I Tried to Team Up With Julian Ass... - 10/29/2017 7:50:37 PM   
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http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-conspiracy-theory-distraction-trump-russia-694525
A conspiracy theory involving uranium, Russians, bribery and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton managed to trigger a congressional probe this week. But if the story seems unbelievable, well, that's exactly what it is, some expert observers said.

“I have to say that this is one of those things where reasonable people cannot disagree: There just aren’t two sides,” said Jeffrey Lewis, an expert on nuclear materials and nonproliferation at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies in Monterey, California.

The controversy centers around a 2010 deal that allowed a Russian company to take over management of uranium mines in Wyoming and Utah, and it gained steam after The Hill reported on October 17 that the FBI had been investigating allegations that American trucking companies offered bribes to Russian nuclear officials tied to the deal.


According to documents released by The Hill, the bribes were organized by Vadim Mikerin, who managed U.S. operations for the Russian firm Rosatom and its subsidiary Tenex—the company that would buy Uranium One, the manager of the mines—and allegedly helped the American companies secure deals to truck Russian nuclear material in the U.S. through kickbacks to Russian officials.

The Hill described the bribes as “designed to grow [Russian President] Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States,” although the alleged bribes, which totaled about $2 million, covered only transport contracts for Russian nuclear material and didn’t actually increase Russian uranium sales in the U.S.

The U.S. produces very little uranium—about 2 million pounds in 2015, a year nuclear power plants imported 57 million pounds of the element. The vast majority of the uranium comes from Kazakhstan and Australia.


But the idea that Russia had bought control of one of the larger uranium mines in the U.S. led some imaginations to run wild, even if that uranium isn’t being used for weapons. Russia and the U.S. have worked to shrink nuclear stockpiles in recent years.

Conservative media outlets have been circulating theories about the deal for years, and Donald Trump even brought it up while campaigning for the presidency. Trump claimed that Clinton “approved the transfer of 20 percent of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.”

The Hill article sent such coverage into overdrive. Lou Dobbs ran a segment on his Fox Business show under the banner “Russia Collusion” and featuring a photo of Clinton the day the story was published. Trump hyped the theory again several times in the past week, calling the deal a “modern-day Watergate” and the “real Russia story.”

The guilt by association theory centers on Clinton’s role on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). The committee reviews deals that would transfer to foreign ownership companies that might be sensitive to national security.

According to the conspiracy theory, Clinton received money from several people affiliated with the uranium mine deal, and then pushed the CFIUS to approve it in return.

The problem is, that’s not how CFIUS works. Clinton’s vote would have been only one of nine, as the reviews are run by the Treasury Department and other Cabinet secretaries get to weigh in.

“The secretary of state is one, and frankly not usually a very powerful, member of the committee,” said Steve Grundman, a fellow at the Atlantic Council who dealt with CFIUS reviews while serving in the Pentagon in the 1990s. “You have to remember with CFIUS, the first letter stands for the committee.”

Also, Cabinet secretaries almost never deal with the committee themselves, instead delegating to underlings. For Clinton, that delegate was the assistant secretary of state for economic and business affairs, Jose Fernandez.

“Secretary Clinton never intervened with me on any CFIUS matter,” Fernandez told Time in 2015. Two former State Department officials who served under Clinton told Newsweek that Clinton would have been notified of a CFIUS decision only if there were disagreement among members of the committee, which would push a final decision to the president. The CFIUS decision on the Uranium One deal, however, was unanimous—all nine representatives agreed to approve it.

“For this conspiracy theory to be true, she would have to twist the arms of all these other eight Cabinet secretaries, which is completely absurd and completely implausible,” said Max Bergmann, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress who specializes in U.S.-Russia relations and who worked at the State Department under both Clinton and her successor, John Kerry.

The claim that Clinton received big money for the Clinton Foundation from those tied to the Tenex–Uranium One deal is also tenuous. PolitiFact reviewed that claim, which was floated in a book by an editor at the far-right media outlet Breitbart, and found that almost all the money came from Frank Giustra, who sold his stake in Uranium One before Clinton became secretary of state.

Bergmann said the claim “just doesn’t make any sense. It’s just frankly a vehicle for distraction.”

According to the experts, even if Clinton had somehow managed to tilt the CFIUS decision in favor of Russian buyers, it wouldn’t matter: The mine isn’t very important.

The Russian-owned company does not have a license to export the uranium, and the actual mining process is not sensitive at all.

“It’s just a mine,” Lewis said. “There’s no technology that’s special. There’s no shortage of uranium around the world.”

Also, the deal took place during a period when the U.S. was trying to rebuild economic ties to Russia after Clinton and President Barack Obama initiated a “reset” with that country. The U.S. was buying helicopters from Russia for Afghanistan’s army, as well as rockets for U.S. satellite programs. It was a time before Russia had invaded Ukraine and meddled in the U.S. election.

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