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JstAnotherSub -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 4:06:47 PM)

Show me what you wrote about the white dude that shot over 500 and killed so many, then we can talk about if your interests are for what s best for this country or just racist bullshit.

The guy was from a country that was part of the USSR and he would not have been blocked by any of the bans the dickwad wants to enact




Danemora -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 5:14:47 PM)

~FRing it~

I can understand wanting to wipe ISIS off the face of the Earth fatwa style.

The hugely glaring nightmare would be the enforcement of it. I doubt a rabid Islamophobe would care if they just executed a Muslim first and then try to question the bloody corpse about its ISIS ties afterwards. One person in this very thread cant separate extremists from average Joe Islam and thinks anyone who practices Islam needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth. So to advocate this for someone like that is akin to what the Nazis did to the Jews...merely because they practiced the Jewish faith.

It sure as hell shouldnt be up to individuals to be judge, jury, and executioner




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 8:49:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Show me what you wrote about the white dude that shot over 500 and killed so many, then we can talk about if your interests are for what s best for this country or just racist bullshit.

The guy was from a country that was part of the USSR and he would not have been blocked by any of the bans the dickwad wants to enact


Last time I'm doing your research for you.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5078373






DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 8:54:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

This is the saddest thing that I have seen on this forum in a long time. Sad as in pathetic, cringe-worthy even. The other day I made a crack about jumping the shark. But this is a whole new level of pitiful.

HB, just leave the old man alone now. He clearly has some issues going on that require the need to tiptoe around him lest he lose it altogether.

I do question his fitness for posting on this forum, if this is the type of behavior he is going to engage in. This is twice in one week he has threatened to sue someone on here. People who are silly enough to fall for that would end up having their free speech stifled.



Says the person that accused me and another poster of "racism by ignorance".

I will give your sadness and your opinion its due attention.

Shut your pie hole, Ms. Duplicitous




Wayward5oul -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 9:15:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

This is the saddest thing that I have seen on this forum in a long time. Sad as in pathetic, cringe-worthy even. The other day I made a crack about jumping the shark. But this is a whole new level of pitiful.

HB, just leave the old man alone now. He clearly has some issues going on that require the need to tiptoe around him lest he lose it altogether.

I do question his fitness for posting on this forum, if this is the type of behavior he is going to engage in. This is twice in one week he has threatened to sue someone on here. People who are silly enough to fall for that would end up having their free speech stifled.



Says the person that accused me and another poster of "racism by ignorance".

I will give your sadness and your opinion its' due attention.

Shut your pie hole, Ms. Duplicitous


Which I apologized publicly for. Or have you forgotten again?

Nothing duplicitous about me. I am pretty upfront.

Maybe I should sure you for libel.




heavyblinker -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 9:16:52 PM)

So many lives ruined.
This forum is a humanitarian crisis.

I'm calling the UN, guys.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 9:31:12 PM)

LOL




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 10:26:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Which I apologized publicly for. Or have you forgotten again?



Be that as it may, I'm much more a fan of contrition and you've shown none.

"I'm sorry" is bullshit that usually comes from a four-year-old, when they've been caught in the cookie jar.

"I was wrong and I will make an honest attempt for it to never happen again" and then, living up to it is how grownups make amends.





Wayward5oul -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 10:46:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

Which I apologized publicly for. Or have you forgotten again?



Be that as it may, I'm much more a fan of contrition and you've shown none.

"I'm sorry" is bullshit that usually comes from a four-year-old, when they've been caught in the cookie jar.

"I was wrong and I will make an honest attempt for it to never happen again" and then, living up to it is how grownups make amends.



Actually I was very sincere in that post. You wouldn't know because you put me on hide. Or at least you said you did. Hhhmmm..

But being genuinely sorry about that one incident does not preclude me from calling out bs at a later date. One does not negate the other.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/2/2017 10:50:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Actually I was very sincere in that post. You wouldn't know because you put me on hide. Or at least you said you did. Hhhmmm..

But being genuinely sorry about that one incident does not preclude me from calling out bs at a later date. One does not negate the other.



You were on hide until that thread about the media attacking PRESIDENT Trump's son (but you knew that).

I have never denied your "right" to call me out on whatever you perceive to be my "bullshit". I objected to you, accusing me and another poster of being racists because we didn't speak out on a particular thread when YOU thought we should.

Nice try, toots. No sale.






ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/3/2017 4:23:42 AM)

FR
Time to lawyer up folks.
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 11:02:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Show me what you wrote about the white dude that shot over 500 and killed so many, then we can talk about if your interests are for what s best for this country or just racist bullshit.

The guy was from a country that was part of the USSR and he would not have been blocked by any of the bans the dickwad wants to enact


Last time I'm doing your research for you.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5078373




My apologies for not asking the question properly. Show me where you called for a Fatwa against all radical white dudes with access to unbelievable firepower who shoot and kill so many more and we can talk about whether you want what is best for the country or are spewing racist bullshit.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 11:16:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub
My apologies for not asking the question properly. Show me where you called for a Fatwa against all radical white dudes with access to unbelievable firepower who shoot and kill so many more and we can talk about whether you want what is best for the country or are spewing racist bullshit.


Normally, I'd tell you to "suck eggs", because you seem to be DEMANDING that I acquiesce to your whims, but I'm in a good mood so, I'll play:

I wrote, on here, that I was up, most of the night, watching the early reports and I was. I made one other post on that thread and, six hours after that post, I was in the emergency room. When I was able to return home (and to this site) that particular thread was no longer "active" (appearing in the scroll) so, let me apologize for not posting about things when YOU think I should post.

With that out of the way, I have quite a few thoughts on the Las Vegas shooting. Would you really like to read them or would I be hurting myself and wasting my time for no reason?






Wayward5oul -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 12:38:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Actually I was very sincere in that post. You wouldn't know because you put me on hide. Or at least you said you did. Hhhmmm..

But being genuinely sorry about that one incident does not preclude me from calling out bs at a later date. One does not negate the other.



You were on hide until that thread about the media attacking PRESIDENT Trump's son (but you knew that).

I have never denied your "right" to call me out on whatever you perceive to be my "bullshit". I objected to you, accusing me and another poster of being racists because we didn't speak out on a particular thread when YOU thought we should.

Nice try, toots. No sale.




If you really want to rehash all that, go back and re-read the thread. I have no need to. I'm not selling anything, I have no need to convince you of anything, so if this is just going to turn into an old argument, I'm done here.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 12:42:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
If you really want to rehash all that, go back and re-read the thread. I have no need to. I'm not selling anything, I have no need to convince you of anything, so if this is just going to turn into an old argument, I'm done here.


I believe YOU engaged me, here, on this thread.

Be that as it may, as far as I'm concerned as regards to posters whose opinions matter to me, you were "done", a long time ago.

Peace. Out, toots





bounty44 -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 2:40:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

This is the saddest thing that I have seen on this forum in a long time. Sad as in pathetic, cringe-worthy even. The other day I made a crack about jumping the shark. But this is a whole new level of pitiful.

HB, just leave the old man alone now. He clearly has some issues going on that require the need to tiptoe around him lest he lose it altogether.

I do question his fitness for posting on this forum, if this is the type of behavior he is going to engage in. This is twice in one week he has threatened to sue someone on here. People who are silly enough to fall for that would end up having their free speech stifled.


never minding the pretentious arrogance in your post---so seemingly in your world libel is okay but asserting one's legal rights against it is not.

I agree the tension between free speech and libel is a tough one, however, the law and the terms of service prohibit it.

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Wayward5oul -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 3:20:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

This is the saddest thing that I have seen on this forum in a long time. Sad as in pathetic, cringe-worthy even. The other day I made a crack about jumping the shark. But this is a whole new level of pitiful.

HB, just leave the old man alone now. He clearly has some issues going on that require the need to tiptoe around him lest he lose it altogether.

I do question his fitness for posting on this forum, if this is the type of behavior he is going to engage in. This is twice in one week he has threatened to sue someone on here. People who are silly enough to fall for that would end up having their free speech stifled.


never minding the pretentious arrogance in your post---so seemingly in your world libel is okay but asserting one's legal rights against it is not.

I agree the tension between free speech and libel is a tough one, however, the law and the terms of service prohibit it.

"11. Defamation Or Invasive Material Policy:

"11.1. We provide an interactive computer service, and thus we have no liability for user-posted content due to Section 230 of the CDA. Nevertheless, we recognize that despite this protection, there may occasionally be content posted by Our Users that is unappreciated by the subject of the User-posted content. It is not Our intention to cause anguish to any person nor harm to any entity, nor to allow through inaction such harm to occur. Accordingly, it is Our policy to respond respectfully to any complaints about User posted content, or about content that We might have provided.

"11.2. If you feel damaged by any User-posted content, or content provided by Us, We agree to take reasonable measures to comply with any reasonable requests. Even if You are a public official, public figure, or libel-proof person, We do care about Your feelings and reputation. Therefore, We have instituted this Policy.

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and interesting reading here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Libel+and+Slander












Yes, so rather than reporting it, as the material you quoted shows that all users agreed to do, it goes straight to threats of suing.

Thank you for helping show how silly this was.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 4:16:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Yes, so rather than reporting it, as the material you quoted shows that all users agreed to do, it goes straight to threats of suing.

Thank you for helping show how silly this was.


You assume I didn't report it and that it doesn't remain "published" for all to see at the time of this writing.
You assume I haven't reported similar things, in the past.
You assume that a pattern hasn't developed.
You ass




Wayward5oul -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 4:54:41 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Yes, so rather than reporting it, as the material you quoted shows that all users agreed to do, it goes straight to threats of suing.

Thank you for helping show how silly this was.


You assume I didn't report it.
You assume I haven't reported similar things, in the past.
You assume that a pattern hasn't developed.
You ass


I don't know about anything from the past, and haven't commented on the need to report anything from the past, so I don't know why you are bringing that up.

It you did report this "incident", you didn't give the site time to act on it before the multiple threats of litigation against multiple posters. That isn't an assumption, that's right here in this thread, timestamps and all.

I'm okay with being an ass. Sometimes you have to be that way to deal with other asses.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Time For A "Fatwa" of Our Own (11/4/2017 5:05:52 PM)




quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
I don't know about anything from the past, and haven't commented on the need to report anything from the past, so I don't know why you are bringing that up.

Right. You didn't know, yet you felt entitled; nay obligated to assume the worst (yet again) about me and open that sewer under your nose in text format. Fuck off with your nonsense.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
It you did report this "incident", you didn't give the site time to act on it before the multiple threats of litigation against multiple posters. That isn't an assumption, that's right here in this thread, timestamps and all.

and, as we sit here, tonight, the paperwork is yet un-filed ... maybe I'm giving the site (and certain posters) enough time to get their head out of their ass?
quote:

ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
I'm okay with being an ass.


You should be. Obviously, you've practiced enough and you're good at it.





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