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heavyblinker -> North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 10:19:00 AM)

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/10/23/report-north-korea-developing-biological-weapons-stockpile/

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A crucial 2000 white paper from the South Korean defense ministry indicated North Korea was most interested in developing anthrax and smallpox weapons but has also experimented with botulism, cholera, the plague, yellow fever, and staph, among others. As recently as 2015, a joint U.S.-South Korean investigation concluded North Korea has at least 13 pathogens in its inventory, and “it is possible that it would use them in bioterrorism or in an all-out war.”
A vital lingering question is whether North Korea has weaponized the biological agents in its possession to the point where they could be deployed with missiles or drone aircraft. This would require stabilizing the agents enough to deploy them into targeted environments without killing them, in a form that can be sprayed over a large area to produce the desired catastrophic effect.
Unfortunately, that is not as daunting a challenge as miniaturizing nuclear bombs enough to fit them inside missile warheads. “Agents like anthrax could cause mass casualties with only a small amount: only a few kilograms of anthrax, equivalent to a few bottles of wine, released into a dense city could kill 50 percent of the population,” the Belfer Center notes.
An easier method of deploying bio-weapons is probably available to the totalitarian regime: human distribution agents acting as suicide bio-bombers, disguising themselves as maintenance workers to spray pathogens disguised as cleaning fluids or contaminating city water supplies. “North Korea has 200,000 special forces; even a handful of those special forces armed with BW would be enough to devastate South Korea,” the report points out.
Biological weapons deployed in this manner might fit better into North Korea’s long-term strategy than nuclear weapons. The report speculates the North might launch bio-weapons attacks in South Korea to “disrupt society and create panic, incapacitate societies, and/or cause a significant military diversion” at the beginning of a conventional military invasion intended to unite the peninsula under Pyongyang’s control. This would have the advantage of decimating the South Korean population without destroying valuable infrastructure Pyongyang would like to seize.
It might also crucially delay forceful responses from Western powers, as the North Koreans would doubtless claim they had nothing to do with the mysterious plague running wild through South Korean cities. Biological warfare has a unique aspect that distinguishes it from nuclear or chemical weapons: a mass casualty attack could be well underway, inflicting enormous stress on a society and causing widespread panic, before investigators conclusively prove it is an attack, or determine who launched it.


Good thing there is such a level-headed and brilliant strategist and diplomacy expert in the White House, otherwise this might be a real concern for US citizens.




bounty44 -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 12:16:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Good thing there is such a level-headed and brilliant strategist and diplomacy expert in the White House, otherwise this might be a real concern for US citizens.


how unfortunate that you take something that could have been discussion worthy and ruin it with your being a smug pompous ass.








Lucylastic -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 12:38:40 PM)

LOL
Surely you arent saying that trumps behaviour is not important towards NK ? nuclear or bioweapons, he has them(kim)
Surely you dont think trumps strategy and diplomacy has made things better in foreign policy?
Pompous ass? pot calling the kettle grimy arse.

"Pompous asses" have been asking about trump and the nuclear issue, the bio weapons is just as important, but why would congress look into a president having control over nukes... This is the first time since when?
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/trump-nuclear-weapons-senate/545846/
https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2017/jan/30/should-donald-trumps-access-to-nuclear-weapons-be-restricted
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-ban-use-nuclear-weapons-first-use-congressional-declaration-of-war-us-congressman-ted-a7545191.html
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2017-04-26/the-president-shouldnt-have-sole-authority-over-nuclear-weapons
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/trump-bomb-north-korea-congress/index.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/29/trump-shouldnt-have-sole-authority-use-nuclear-weapons-tom-nichols-column/610265001/
http://www.fox10tv.com/story/36844441/lawmakers-us-allies-debate-trumps-authority-to-launch-nukes

SO his "reputation" as a "level headed diplomat, and strategist" has been opined on since january. Why is that? he is trusted? who by?





Musicmystery -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 12:45:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Good thing there is such a level-headed and brilliant strategist and diplomacy expert in the White House, otherwise this might be a real concern for US citizens.


how unfortunate that you take something that could have been discussion worthy and ruin it with your being a smug pompous ass.






Unfortunate that this is all your smug pompous ass could contribute.




MrRodgers -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 5:00:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Good thing there is such a level-headed and brilliant strategist and diplomacy expert in the White House, otherwise this might be a real concern for US citizens.


how unfortunate that you take something that could have been discussion worthy and ruin it with your being a smug pompous ass.


Please do tell, is this the same sort of smug, pompous asses that said the same thing and worse about Obama for 8 years.

Leading from behind
Muslim socialist out to destroy America
Communist traitor

Shall I go on ?

Get used to it, Trump is way out of his league and is fighting tooth and nail to get anything meaningful done but feed his new corporate swamp.

What's changed with N. Korea ? All that's changed with ISIS is Trump bellowing about how close we are but thanks really, to Obama's strategy for over a year prior.





Greta75 -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 5:30:12 PM)

FR
We ALL KNEW NK is gonna down the biological weapon route the moment he fucking murdered his brother in Malaysia with biological weapons.

Banned biological weapons. So we know NK is hording loads of them.

And you got a tyrant filled to the bream with forbidden biological weapons, not respecting international law at all, and world leaders, with the exception of Trump going, "Let's live in fear of North Korea together and not agitate them, incase they murder us."

I am totally not feeling the "standing down" part that the rest of the world leaders chooses to do. Especially when NK is getting very very piled up with formidable weapons all these years, they chose to be kind to NK.




Hillwilliam -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/19/2017 5:42:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

FR
We ALL KNEW NK is gonna down the biological weapon route the moment he fucking murdered his brother in Malaysia with biological weapons.

Banned biological weapons. So we know NK is hording loads of them.

And you got a tyrant filled to the bream with forbidden biological weapons, not respecting international law at all, and world leaders, with the exception of Trump going, "Let's live in fear of North Korea together and not agitate them, incase they murder us."

I am totally not feeling the "standing down" part that the rest of the world leaders chooses to do. Especially when NK is getting very very piled up with formidable weapons all these years, they chose to be kind to NK.

#1 NK has been working on biological weapons since the turn of the millennium at least.
Definitely during the Bush II administration and possibly during the Clinton.


#2 He didn't murder his brother with Biological weapons. That was chemical. Please learn the difference.

Note...the little fat fuck has only been in charge since 2011 so his father is the one who started these programs.




heavyblinker -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/20/2017 12:11:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Good thing there is such a level-headed and brilliant strategist and diplomacy expert in the White House, otherwise this might be a real concern for US citizens.


how unfortunate that you take something that could have been discussion worthy and ruin it with your being a smug pompous ass.






Unfortunate that this is all your smug pompous ass could contribute.


It's what he says when he knows I'm right.




heavyblinker -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/20/2017 12:25:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75
with the exception of Trump going, "Let's live in fear of North Korea together and not agitate them, incase they murder us."


So you think that it's better to promise to completely destroy them with 'fire, fury and power that has never been seen before on this Earth'?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/08/world/asia/north-korea-un-sanctions-nuclear-missile-united-nations.html

Trump is essentially promising a holocaust here.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/08/south-korea-is-more-worried-about-donald-trump-than-kim-jong-un/

You know what happens when toddlers like Trump and Kimmy J get into a fight, right?





heavyblinker -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/27/2017 3:07:25 AM)

In case anyone was worried about South Korea:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/north-korea-says-only-us-should-be-afraid-of-weapons/ar-BBFM56b?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp




MercTech -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/27/2017 6:57:32 PM)

Reporters always talk about anthrax and smallpox. Botulinum, tetanus, and polio mielitus would be much more effective weaponized. Shoot, legionaire's disease is really a dual agent so as to provide narrow targeting.




heavyblinker -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/28/2017 11:54:16 AM)

They just launched a ballistic missile.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-28/north-korea-launches-another-ballistic-missile-yonhap-says




WhoreMods -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/28/2017 12:05:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Reporters always talk about anthrax and smallpox. Botulinum, tetanus, and polio mielitus would be much more effective weaponized. Shoot, legionaire's disease is really a dual agent so as to provide narrow targeting.

Anthrax and smallpox are the ones people have heard of. What percentage of Americans even know where the toxin rich idiots have shot into their faces comes from?
(Wouldn't polio be more effective as a targeted weapon against the anti vaccination lot in your country than in third world countries where the WHO and the UN run vaccination programmes for it, though?)




Greta75 -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/28/2017 8:36:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

They just launched a ballistic missile.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-28/north-korea-launches-another-ballistic-missile-yonhap-says


Like seriously, I would fear for any country IF you are taking care of their defense.

We would be waving white flags and surrendering and like, "Please don't hurt us, we surrender!"

If we are engaging in war with a vicious and evil enemy. I want a damn vicious leader who can be more hardcore than them. To take them down and show that they don't mess around.

I bring this back to a simple concept. You can never stop a bully from bullying you by turning the other cheek. Sometimes, you gotta really fuck up that bully big time and threaten him if he ever dares mess with you again, his dead.

I think it's not about playing tough guy or not. But knowing your threat and knowing how to deal with them in the way that they understand.

Like for example, a friend of mine was a runt back in his school. Bullies always pick on him because his tiny. And on top of that, attack him in a group. Although he always fought back, but can't get them off his back.

What does he do? Get more vicious. He went after the head bully's father and ambush and beat up the father and then threaten the bully to back down or he won't stop going after his dad.

The bully stopped.

It's not humane but he was 13 and he wasn't gonna live with getting ambush and beat up everyday. So he had to do something effective. I mean what is that bully gonna say? "Dad I torment this guy by beating him all the time, so he snapped and came after you?"

Alot of bullies, their parents may not know they are bully and think they are angels at home.




heavyblinker -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (11/29/2017 4:17:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
If we are engaging in war with a vicious and evil enemy. I want a damn vicious leader who can be more hardcore than them. To take them down and show that they don't mess around.


How about a leader who is a complete fucking idiot and is essentially forcing this vicious and evil enemy to actually DO something or lose face?
Is it worth being attacked first to be able to attack them back?

This isn't a schoolyard, Greta... people will die, and it won't be the people who deserve to die.




heavyblinker -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (12/2/2017 2:31:48 AM)

Well, this topic doesn't seem to be popular, but in case anyone cares, it is now confirmed that North Korea can launch a nuclear missile and hit anywhere in the continental United States.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/north-koreas-latest-missile-test-was-even-scarier-than-it-seemed/ar-BBG1KRs?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartandhp

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North Korea remains unlikely to actually strike the U.S. with a nuclear missile, given the undoubtably severe response such an attack would provoke. Analysts generally view North Korea's nuclear ambitions as an avenue to gain leverage in negotiations on the world stage, a deterrent against attacks, and a safeguard against any international efforts to undermine the current regime. The Trump administration's volatile rhetoric on North Korea, though, particularly from the President himself, has led to fears that now any small incident or miscalculation could escalate into a larger crisis.





PeonForHer -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (12/2/2017 3:08:23 AM)

Time to send in Steven Seagal.




Greta75 -> RE: North Korean Bioweapons Attack (12/3/2017 2:03:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

This isn't a schoolyard, Greta... people will die, and it won't be the people who deserve to die.

People are gonna die because in the past people were not tough enough on North Korea and allowed them to grow stronger weapons to become a scary threat.

Your solution empowers North Korea. Not save more lives.

North Korea in the end is just planning to get more powerful to threaten the world to get whatever they want.

You think they give a shit about the lives of their own people or other people?

This devoted focus to stock pile chemical, biological and nuclear weapons is for an eventual goal of something really big and malicious. And the world is enabling it by being scared. Not looking far sighted into this issue at all.

It's just delaying the inevitable and giving North Korea a taste of how the more powerful their weaponry gets, how much more power they get where the world will move to pacify their demands to prevent them from using those weapons.






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