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BoscoX -> Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 4:29:03 AM)

Official Antifa tweet:

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Here we promote "snipping fiber optic cable lines" in order to "disrupt internet, mobile phone, and 911 services":


The news this morning:


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Vandalism causes Spectrum cable outage in Brooklyn and Queens, angers customers


They're like ten year olds

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DesideriScuri -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 6:12:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Official Antifa tweet:
quote:

Here we promote "snipping fiber optic cable lines" in order to "disrupt internet, mobile phone, and 911 services":

The news this morning:
quote:

Vandalism causes Spectrum cable outage in Brooklyn and Queens, angers customers

They're like ten year olds


I don't know where you got your information, Bsoco, but it's not necessarily the whole truth.

The "Official Antifa" twitter handle? I have no idea how to verify that. But, the tweet had a link to a story on "itsgoingdown.org." The link doesn't work. If you do a google search for words in the link, specifically, "fiber optic cable sabotage," you'll find an article about fiber optic cable sabotage in NY in California and Arizona... in 2015.

http://earthfirstjournal.org/newswire/2015/08/03/fiber-optic-cable-sabotage-continues-into-california-after-arizonas-digital-umbilical-cord-severed/

The very last two sentences of your other link don't point towards antifa, either, but at least the article is current.
    quote:

    Bonomo said that since a strike by workers with Local 3 began on March 28, there have been 130 acts of vandalism to the network, disrupting service to thousands of New Yorkers.

    There were just four acts of vandalism prior to that, he said.


Unless you're also thinking that Unions are working in cooperation, or are part of antifa, this may not have anything to do with antifa at all.

itsgoingdown.org does look like it could be meeting place for people who agree with antifa, but isn't necessarily an antifa site.

https://itsgoingdown.org/about/
    quote:

    It’s Going Down is a digital community center for anarchist, anti-fascist, autonomous anti-capitalist and anti-colonial movements. Our mission is to provide a resilient platform to publicize and promote revolutionary theory and action.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 7:34:42 AM)

There is fuck all "official" about that twitter account. There is no Antifa. It is not a thing, it is a description.

And the group linked to in the Tweet are not fascists, they are Anarchists. Pretty much the polar opposite of fascists.




MrRodgers -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 8:11:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

There is fuck all "official" about that twitter account. There is no Antifa. It is not a thing, it is a description.

And the group linked to in the Tweet are not fascists, they are Anarchists. Pretty much the polar opposite of fascists.

.....and we shouldn't be surprised given the author of this post.




heavyblinker -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 8:14:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

There is fuck all "official" about that twitter account. There is no Antifa. It is not a thing, it is a description.

And the group linked to in the Tweet are not fascists, they are Anarchists. Pretty much the polar opposite of fascists.


Bosco doesn't know what a fascist is, so it follows that he also doesn't know what the opposite of a fascist is.
I would say you could try explaining it to him, but we all know how pointless that would be.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 8:17:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

There is fuck all "official" about that twitter account. There is no Antifa. It is not a thing, it is a description.

And the group linked to in the Tweet are not fascists, they are Anarchists. Pretty much the polar opposite of fascists.

.....and we shouldn't be surprised given the author of this post.

I have learned to expect nothing but lies from him.




WhoreMods -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 8:48:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

There is fuck all "official" about that twitter account. There is no Antifa. It is not a thing, it is a description.

And the group linked to in the Tweet are not fascists, they are Anarchists. Pretty much the polar opposite of fascists.

.....and we shouldn't be surprised given the author of this post.

I have learned to expect nothing but lies from him.

I suppose somebody has to keep posting those Ben Garrison cartoons now that holocaust boy seems to have fucked off...




PeonForHer -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 8:52:22 AM)

FR

Yep, well, it's standard to believe that one's political enemy is part of a cohesive group. Easier to set it up as a big bad ogre that way. It's a group with a hierarchy, and a leader ... there just must be a big bad Antifa General somewhere - in a quasi-Nazi uniform, with jackboots, and possibly wearing an eyepatch.




WhoreMods -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 8:59:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

Yep, well, it's standard to believe that one's political enemy is part of a cohesive group. Easier to set it up as a big bad ogre that way. It's a group with a hierarchy, and a leader ... there just must be a big bad Antifa General somewhere - in a quasi-Nazi uniform, with jackboots, and possibly wearing an eyepatch.

Close but no cigar: he actually wears blue:
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jlf1961 -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 12:02:28 PM)

It was the luddites!




Danemora -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 12:04:29 PM)

~FRing it~

Jesus H. Christ, Bosco. Antifa literally means anti-Fascist/Fascism. Therefore if the Fascists are indeed "at it again," here's a hint...it wouldnt be on an anti-Fascist "official Twitter account." Mother of God, the dense is incredibly strong with you [8|]




Lucylastic -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 12:11:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Official Antifa tweet:

quote:

Here we promote "snipping fiber optic cable lines" in order to "disrupt internet, mobile phone, and 911 services":


The news this morning:


quote:

Vandalism causes Spectrum cable outage in Brooklyn and Queens, angers customers


They're like ten year olds


Oh dear[sm=hissyfit.gif]




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 12:20:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

It was the luddites!

Maybe it was the Amish Mafia?[8D]




Lucylastic -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 12:24:05 PM)

russians at it again?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 1:41:57 PM)

I think the funniest part of this whole thread is that there are people out there who are stupid enough to believe the article in the OP.

From the comments in the article, there are a BUNCH of them.[sm=lol.gif]




WhoreMods -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 2:01:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I think the funniest part of this whole thread is that there are people out there who are stupid enough to believe the article in the OP.

From the comments in the article, there are a BUNCH of them.[sm=lol.gif]

Desperate rather than stupid, I'd say, though the two might go together in this form of confirmation bias.
It's the opposite of the whole "eliminate the impossible" in Doyle: you eliminate whatever you don't like for ideological reasons first, then whatever's left, however ridiculous or absurd is believed because it must be true if any alternatives are unacceptable. Best of all, the sorts who think like that believe that they're the open minded ones, and everybody else has fallen for a a lie pushed by a biased media, lacking their insight that lets them see through the leftist conspiracy.




PeonForHer -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 3:16:02 PM)

Excuse my ejaculation, but ... You astound me, Holmes!




jlf1961 -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 4:22:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

I think the funniest part of this whole thread is that there are people out there who are stupid enough to believe the article in the OP.

From the comments in the article, there are a BUNCH of them.[sm=lol.gif]

Desperate rather than stupid, I'd say, though the two might go together in this form of confirmation bias.
It's the opposite of the whole "eliminate the impossible" in Doyle: you eliminate whatever you don't like for ideological reasons first, then whatever's left, however ridiculous or absurd is believed because it must be true if any alternatives are unacceptable. Best of all, the sorts who think like that believe that they're the open minded ones, and everybody else has fallen for a a lie pushed by a biased media, lacking their insight that lets them see through the leftist conspiracy.



Well, considering the number of right wing extremist journalist who support, propose, promote, extol and other wise spout conspiracy theories, it would seem, at least on the surface that the belief in conspiracy theories walk hand in hand with ultra right wing views.

For example, during the election, Alex Jones, Breitbart and other ultra right wing broadcasters spoke extensively on pizzagate linking a child trafficking ring to the DNC, Hilary Clinton and other prominent democrats, to the point an armed man went to the pizza parlor in question to 'save the kids.'

Even stranger is the fact that these same ultra conservatives will talk up chem trails, FEMA detention centers, New World Order conspiracies, and then link it to all to government activities even when a republican is in the white house. And they voted for the Republican to boot.

These websites have posted pics of AMTRAK carriage repair centers, satellite photos of work camps (in north Korea) supposedly in Montana, and even US Army installations that are used to train escape and evasion techniques to troops in case of capture as proof of these camps existence.

When Obama was president, there was a mad paranoid ranting about DHS buying a few million rounds of ammo in various calibers, completely ignoring the fact the same type purchase was made during the Bush administration.

And when you take the listening audience of Alex Jones, Breitbart and similar radio shows and pod casts, compared to registered republican voters, it boils down to about forty percent of conservatives in America believe the bullshit, and manage to convince a lot of others that there may be truth in the theories.

The best example of the high rate of people believing this stuff is a few years ago when some conservative local talk show host in Arizona said that a Texas ranch outside of Del Rio had been taken over by a drug cartel and there was a shoot out with local and state cops.

The Del Rio police department and the county sheriff department was flooded with calls from all over after the story hit the internet.

It never happened, and after attempts to prove that it never happened, many kept screaming cover up, including a person that used to post on these boards and advised everyone to buy silver.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 7:08:46 PM)

Fuck it. Never mind




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Fascists At It Again? (11/24/2017 7:14:28 PM)

Short form: Right wing pundits/thinkers/commentators are full of shit.




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