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bounty44 -> a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 3:14:31 AM)

oh no, townhall!

"15 Things Far Too Many Americans Are Foolishly Taking For Granted"

quote:

"Out of every hundred new ideas ninety-nine or more will probably be inferior to the traditional responses which they propose to replace. No one man, however brilliant or well-informed, can come in one lifetime to such fullness of understanding as to safely judge and dismiss the customs or institutions of his society, for those are the wisdom of generations after centuries of experiment in the laboratory of history.” — Will and Ariel Durant

“We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.” – C.S. Lewis

Too many Americans have become like the spoiled trust fund kids running the family business. Grandpa built it and knew it top to bottom. Dad learned from him and kept it going. Now they’re taking over and unfortunately, they never really bothered to learn the ins and outs of how the company works. They just look at it as a place where they can have a fancy title and get money to finance their lifestyle.

Many Americans don’t know why this country is so successful, don’t understand the long-term ramifications of the things they advocate politically and don’t get how lucky we are.

Knowledgeable conservatives know better. We know that we are fortunate enough to live in what Reagan called a “shining city on a hill” and that eternal flame that sets us apart from other nations can easily dim. Americans should consider that many of the things they take for granted are not necessarily so.

You see, far too many of us take it for granted that….

1) ….We can not only refuse to teach patriotism to our kids, but teach our kids in schools that our country is a horrible place and it won’t produce people who are disloyal to our nation.

2) ….Black and Hispanic Americans can be incessantly encouraged to create and nurture racial grudges, white people can constantly be put down, degraded and seemingly discriminated against via programs like Affirmative Action.

3) …We can accuse a man of rape if the woman he has sex with has been drinking, weirdly demand verbal consent for every stage of a make-out session and accuse a man of sexual harassment if a woman claims he grabbed her butt 30 years ago, but it won’t have any ramifications for male/female relationships.

4)….We can hamstring our military with ridiculous rules of engagement, have soldiers on the battlefield call lawyers before they can shoot targets and have politicians make military decisions based on how it will play in the press; yet our troops will still win wars.

5)…We can smear the Christian church at every opportunity, tar every decent person as a secret hypocrite and write morality off as old timey, but the people in our country will continue to be good over the long haul.

6)…. Social Security and Medicare will always be available for the enormous number of Americans that depend on it even though we have no money set aside for either program and we have an unsustainable debt that we are adding to every year.

7) ….We can ignore lawbreaking by illegal aliens while playing political games with our justice system based on whether a Republican or Democrat is being targeted without ordinary Americans losing respect for the rule of law.

8) ….We can put men with poor character in office; yet they’ll still do the right thing for the country, instead of themselves, when they’re elected.

9) ….We can run up an astronomical debt that we never intend to fully pay off, large parts of which are held by nations hostile to us, but they will never choose to crash our economy by refusing to lend us more money that we may not pay back one day.

10) ….We can shut down speakers we disagree with on college campuses; the police can charge exorbitant fees to allow someone to publicly exercise his 2nd Amendment rights and social media giants can quiet anyone they want without consequence, but the rest of us will continue to have our right to free speech honored.

11) …We can trash the police at every opportunity and give the benefit of the doubt to the criminals they arrest instead of to them, while they’ll still be willing and able to effectively do their jobs.

12) …We can abandon the pure capitalism that made our country so rich, pile regulation on top of regulation and exorbitantly tax the most productive members of society without it slowing down the economic growth, jobs and opportunity for everyone.

13) ….We can coddle our best and brightest college students so much that they get “triggered” by hearing things they don’t like, expose them to professors that are Communists, bombers and radicals and then expect them to be tough, competent and capable enough to keep the country running one day.

14) …We can bring in enormous numbers of immigrants from non-Western, socialistic and often backward countries, immerse them in a culture that strongly discourages assimilation and they, or at least their kids will fare as well as anyone here.

15) …We have clean water, decent roads, full supermarkets, Internet access, non-corrupt cops, shoes, free speech and a hospital that will fix a broken leg whether you have money to pay or not. Compared to the MAJORITY of people on Earth, Americans live in a utopia. Yet, all we ever hear are complaints and endless kvetching about how horrible it is to live in such a rich, powerful country that has done so much for the world. Part of that is human nature. It’s easy to focus on what you lack instead of what you have…until you don’t have it any more.

More Americans need to start thinking about preserving this nation for our children. Of all the terrible things we could do as a people, the worst would be to squander the incredible opportunity we’ve had and to leave future generations of Americans with nothing but a shallow husk of what this country is today.


https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2017/11/25/15-things-far-too-many-americans-are-foolishly-taking-for-granted-n2413935





Lucylastic -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 3:23:36 AM)

nah its a dog whistle, as usual.
well done.
LOL




PeonForHer -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 3:25:09 AM)

He could have expressed his views much more succinctly by letting out one long, rumbling fart.




Lucylastic -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 3:42:08 AM)

you expected anything remotely balanced?
yeah me neither.




Edwird -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 3:47:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

He could have expressed his views much more succinctly by letting out one long, rumbling fart.


That would be townhall, updated/re-farted daily. People like bounty got to have their daily sniff, and sometimes feel olfactoraly inspired to spread the joy.




BoscoX -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 4:16:55 AM)


As always. the only response leftist trash has to reasoned arguments rely almost exclusively on tired fallacies




Edwird -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 4:34:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


As always. the only response leftist trash has to reasoned arguments rely almost exclusively on tired fallacies


13) ….We can coddle our best and brightest college students so much that they get “triggered” by hearing things they don’t like, expose them to professors that are Communists, bombers and radicals and then expect them to be tough, competent and capable enough to keep the country running one day.


You call this a '"reasoned argument"?

I was at uni 5-7 years ago, my niece is at college now.

Nobody's heard any of this crap, nor even heard of it. -We'd love to see proof of "bomber professors"-, and how many students are exposed to them.

Do you see sources for anything in that hallucinogenic diatribe?

But then, you've proven that reliability of source, or facts at all, are inimical to your purpose.

Just as with the OP and his fatuous and insane article.




Lucylastic -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 4:41:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


As always. the only response leftist trash has to reasoned arguments rely almost exclusively on tired fallacies

if it were a reasoned argument you would disappear.
Talk about a tired fallacy




Edwird -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 4:42:44 AM)

Good one.




MasterDrakk -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 4:51:48 AM)

1) ….We can not only refuse to teach patriotism to our kids, but teach our kids in schools that our country is a horrible place and it won’t produce people who are disloyal to our nation.

The rightist marketplace of ideas is take up guns,and be ready to kill 'the government'. So 1 would be self referential and describe the entire realm of possibility to the rightist.l This is the 'marketplace of ideas' for rightists, factless unresearched and unknowledgeable opinion wrappped in non sequitur jingo.




heavyblinker -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 5:35:59 AM)

It's a gish gallop... who is going to take the time to respond to everything?

But this:

8) ….We can put men with poor character in office; yet they’ll still do the right thing for the country, instead of themselves, when they’re elected.

is true, but it also assumes that this 'man' actually knows what the right thing for the country is, which he obviously doesn't.




PeonForHer -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 6:11:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


As always. the only response leftist trash has to reasoned arguments rely almost exclusively on tired fallacies



They weren't reasoned arguments. Bounty posted a big collection of opinions, all prefaced by his usual dig at 'comrades'. What else would anyone expect other than to have the piss ripped out of such an OP?




Lucylastic -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 6:29:03 AM)

Oh Noes, Patriots (of the rightwing nut job kind only)

NO I dont aim this at all repubs...get your knackers unknotted.
This is basically the same bullshit accusations turned back at you bounty, and bosco.
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, and just as honest as what you put up
Have at it.
Short and sweet message to the nutbars.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/LNfXY5K.jpg[/image]




MrRodgers -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 7:20:48 AM)

What extremely few points aren't relatively benign and bipartisan, leaves just more unmitigated right wing bullshit. Nice laugh for my 2nd cup of coffee on wake-up this AM.




BoscoX -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 7:30:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Oh Noes, Patriots (of the rightwing nut job kind only)

NO I dont aim this at all repubs...get your knackers unknotted.
This is basically the same bullshit accusations turned back at you bounty, and bosco.
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, and just as honest as what you put up
Have at it.
Short and sweet message to the nutbars.

[image]https://i.imgur.com/LNfXY5K.jpg[/image]


Great example of why you are known as insane howlers [:D]

Seriously




Lucylastic -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 8:07:32 AM)

What makes his truer than the meme apart from the author and length? both came from the internet, both are opinions or opinions of opinions, and both are hyper partisan.
I dont see much difference in it.
Flowery bullshit is still bullshit...his is bullshit and so was mine.
Did you not see that,
so go ahead, hold that mirror straighter, yes, it works up or down...now...Project.[:'(]





bounty44 -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 10:26:13 AM)

the difference being lucy, that NONE of whats in your post is true; whereas by contrast, all of what Hawkins wrote is repeatedly the case, and demonstrably so, a basic part of the left as well as in some cases, in general for people of all political persuasions. soooooo

as usual---the left, and perhaps you all the more in particular, continue to not be able to articulate the actual position of the other side, nor make essential distinctions in argument.

your post is an embarrassment.

although I can see how you wouldn't want to own up to the realities in the piece---it does look pretty bad when its all in one place and the inevitable ugly outcomes are touched on.





Edwird -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 12:56:16 PM)

We'd like to hear more about the proliferation of bomber professors, which should be easy enough, as you claim that information is "repeatedly the case, and demonstrably so."

Actually, there's not a single thing in that article that isn't provably horse manure, but let's start with the C-4 in the professors' bags, anyway.

When you get around to it.




Musicmystery -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 1:12:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

He could have expressed his views much more succinctly by letting out one long, rumbling fart.

I read this far:


quote:

a long and varied message to the comrades


Truth is, his message never varies.

It is, however, always long and repetitive.

Not to mention a mockery of reason.




PeonForHer -> RE: a long and varied message to the comrades (11/25/2017 1:13:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
the difference being lucy, that NONE of whats in your post is true; whereas by contrast, all of what Hawkins wrote is repeatedly the case, and demonstrably so, a basic part of the left as well as in some cases, in general for people of all political persuasions. soooooo


Hawkins just wrote a long series of opinions. You've been using this forum for years, Bounty ... how is that you haven't grasped that they're all disputed opinions, and not facts?




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