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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

People are Othered and discriminated against not (simply) because of the color of their skin (or other phenotypes) but because of their beliefs and practices associated with some “imagined culture.”"

It's not discriminating to be disapproving of people who support and champion a religion that promotes wife beating the same way it's not discriminating to be disapproving of people who identfy as Nazis and who champion Hitler beliefs.

People want to support a belief system that supports beating of wives, go ahead men and women and fly that flag. BUT I REFUSED to ever support a religion that encourages beating their wives!

And it's not racism. If a Muslim ditch his support for pro wife beating horrendous religion. I will embrace him or her regardless what colour he or she is from.

Yes, beliefs divides us. Otherwise, I guess we should all be embracing Nazism and respect their beliefs to wanna gas jews.

And you would have to call yourself a racist in the future, if we go by this dude's definition. For being anti-Nazis.

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: brownfemme

As a Muslim, I can say the tweet was really hurtful and stupid. But it's good to know most people agree how stupid the tweet was. If anything, I think the tweet made any doubts anyone had about how racist Trump is more clear.

Right.....
Are you a Muslim trying to claim that Muslim is a race now?
*Yawns*
What kind of Muslim are you? That you don't know that Muslim isn't a race?

Where did she claim that Muslim is a race????

She said it was more proof that Trump is a racist. Try reading posts properly before you make a comment. (Yes I know many have told you that before but it is still not happening)

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when you can pretty much redefine words to mean something other than what is intended, they start to essentially mean nothing.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

The REAL problem is, Islam is still worldly recognised as a peaceful religion.

So everyone ignores all the atrocities done by it's leader Muhammad.

Whereas in Nazism, everyone is taught Hitler is evil, so nobody is crying racism or prejudice when people are nasty towards Nazis.

It's like being a Fundie Christian also has a negative connotation. And lefties love to attack Fundies for blocking abortion and shit.

But if ya attack Islam for anything, it's prejudice. But not when you attack Christians apparently for their fundamental beliefs.

That's the real hypocrisy.

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Prejudice is prejudice however you slice it.

Going off on a tangent whenever muslims are mentioned in order to defend a prejudice against a whole religion by saying that it isn't specifically "racist" looks like clutching at straws. Disliking specific aspects of a theology and castigating everyone you identify as a certain religion through their culture, country of origin or dress are two very different things.

Finding things you dislike about specific aspects of Islam and hating all muslims are not the same. One is a critical appraisal of religious belief, the other is prejudice.

Let's not let any of that hide the truth.

Donald Trump retweeted badly labelled images accompanied by an inaccurate commentary, which taken together were designed to promote the hared of all muslims. The original tweets were deliberately out of context and the very definition of the fake news he says he hates so much.

When called out on it by both left and right wing politicians and commentators in the UK, he attacked the UK government on law and order, an area where he has nothing to boast about, having done nothing about the wave of mass killings which mark the US out from most of the rest of the world.

And all because he is thin-skinned and can't take moderate balanced criticism when he dishes out ill-considered criticism of others on a regular basis. We all know people who can give it but can't take it in return and we don't respect them for it.

The best that can be said of his actions is that he was intelligently playing to that part of his support which is anti-muslim and even that is being generous. If he is such a great businessman or manager, how come he is so poor at forming long term relationships with his partners?

The chief self-appointed critic of fake news is the chief purveyor of fake news. No surprise there.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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when you can pretty much redefine words to mean something other than what is intended, they start to essentially mean nothing.

You should read the article to which I linked - it's quite accessible.

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ORIGINAL: brownfemme
Thank you. This 'Muslim isn't a race' is a tump card (pun intended) used by all the bigots. 'Oh, I can say whatever the heck I want about those Muslims, because guess what?! Muslims isn't a race! Ha. Got you'

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

Prejudice is prejudice however you slice it.

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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Prejudice is prejudice however you slice it.

Prejudice against Muslims is good and it is justified because their cult practices include the mass slaughter of innocents as well as the brutal subjugation of women, and many of their other violent teachings and behaviors are inhumane to the extreme.

Their cult is not compatible with democratic principles or with ideals such as upholding human dignity

Poll after poll proves that large numbers of Muslims approve of the violence that their Koran and other teachings push at them

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Much the same arguments can be made against republicans, but you have a real issue with broadbrushing them in the same fashion, don't you?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX



Prejudice against jews is good and it is justified because their cult practices include the mass slaughter of innocents as well as the brutal subjugation of women, and many of their other violent teachings and behaviors are inhumane to the extreme.

Their cult is not compatible with democratic principles or with ideals such as upholding human dignity

Poll after poll proves that large numbers of jews approve of the violence that their Koran and other teachings push at them

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but report it, fill your pretty little stompers. or whinge more here.
your choice.

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im not rejecting the basis or premise of the article, just that a different phrase should be used to describe the phenomenon.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
In short: you want a new term, but the original term wasn't fit for purpose anyway and doesn't make sense the way it's been used when talking about 'racism'.