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Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 4:27:35 PM   
RoughSexDom


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Status: offline 		It occurs to me that many " female Submissives" here are actually men. thus, the final no-realtime contact result.

hmmmmmm.

on the other hand i have met three vrey real. very nice submissives here.
thanks.

"roughie"
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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 4:58:33 PM   
sub4hire


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ORIGINAL: RoughSexDom

It occurs to me that many " female Submissives" here are actually men. thus, the final no-realtime contact result.

hmmmmmm.

on the other hand i have met three vrey real. very nice submissives here.
thanks.

"roughie"


More than likely this is a stupid question. But, why do men pose as females anyway? Are they gay? I mean, if its for cyber sex. Doesn't it sort of lack something if you are male playing a female?

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 4:59:57 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		i have a friend who does it for cybersex b/c he can get cybersex easier as a female than as a male, and it's just about the sex, not the gender he is portraying.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 5:32:04 PM   
LadyBeckett


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Status: offline 		I actually had a female submissive contact me when I first joined the site that was a male. Her user name was lily something, I can't remember it now. I informed this person that if the plumbing is external that is indicative of maleness and she was therefore a "he". I really don't care, but others may, so it's probably not a good idea to save this information as a surprise for later.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 5:40:01 PM   
EStrict


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Status: offline 		I think you may be right Sir, but there are posers of every type online. It's one of the reasons I would never scene online, even when I wasn't owned. Also, I have never agreed to meet someone in person that I haven't spoken to on the phone first..

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 5:52:26 PM   
anjelblue69


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Status: offline 		Another reason for no real-time contact is likely that someone is not everything he/she said he/she was. I have had men correspond with me for months and even go so far as to set up a date and time to meet only to cancel at the last minute. I usually find out later that they are either married (or in some kind of committed relationship) or the picture on their profile isn't really them or they don't work in the field they said they did or they've conveyed some other lie that they don't know how to fess up to.

I can only surmise that these people start out without any intention of ever meeting anyone.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 8:40:58 PM   
inyouagain


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Status: offline 		Think about that in your next gloryhole fantasy.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/13/2004 10:29:51 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		I will never understand having cybersex in the first place. Boring! And the chance that it may be a guy on the other end... even less of a turn on.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/14/2004 6:16:57 AM   
LadyBeckett


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Status: offline 		Truth be told I don't understand it either, but for some it seems to be very fulfilling. Go figure! Different strokes for different folks, literally!

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/14/2004 9:03:23 AM   
londonswitch


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Status: offline 		Yup, and as well as an easier route to sexual stimulation, pretending to be a female may allow the male 'poser' to access all the myths/truths/social constructs/biological determinants (<-delete as personal belief system re: feminism dictates) about vulnerability in the female.

Oh honestly nadine. Spit it out. More snappily - they're working the female=sub, male=dom angle?

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/14/2004 12:24:26 PM   
proudsub


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I will never understand having cybersex in the first place


I used to cyber a lot, don't anymore. But i did enjoy it and considered an enhancement to self-stimulation. It is also how i was trained as a sub so found it very beneficial in my case. But i agree real life is by far superior

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/14/2004 2:07:21 PM   
seattleminx


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ORIGINAL: Estring

I will never understand having cybersex in the first place. Boring!


I'm currently in a poly relationship and my partner to whom I bottom, bottoms to an online Mistress some 2000 miles away. From talking with both of them about it (well, e-mailing her Mistress), they both get something quite substantial out of it. And from the effort both of them put into it, it appears that they are both quite serious about it.

Part of the attraction to this kind of relationship is that it allows the fantasy aspect to be believed without the pesky aspects of reality getting into the way. It has been speculated that the Mistress 2000 miles away is actually a guy. Put considering the limitations of distance, it really doesn't matter.

However, for me personally I can't do it. I need that face to face connection.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is that online relationships can and do work, it's just not for everyone.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/14/2004 5:01:12 PM   
fit2btied44


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Status: offline 		hi sandy:

i think i am the once exception to your(sandy) meeting only people that you have talked with on the telephone first, as opposed to only knowing them online

........remember a few years ago at gillys, frontier hotel, in vegas?

we had a very honorable public meeting at gillys and then in the frontier hotel casino regarding my enjoyment of fire 'heat' play.

anyway, nice to see your post sandy, i'm in vegas often and still attend many munches and one of bobbis recent parties.

hope to see you, master, sometime in vegas, at one of the bdsm functions.

bye sandi,

from chicago
ron(fit2btied44 (aol))-------old screen name was lookintoburn
quote:

ORIGINAL: EStrict

I think you may be right Sir, but there are posers of every type online. It's one of the reasons I would never scene online, even when I wasn't owned. Also, I have never agreed to meet someone in person that I haven't spoken to on the phone first..

(gateway isp now out business)

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/14/2004 6:13:16 PM   
EStrict


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Status: offline 		Ahhh, yes,, but the difference is I was meeting you for research, not as a prospective partner. In this thread they are talking about people they are scening with online who are not what they say they are.

I've met lots of people as *friends* I didn't talk to first. But, it was always in public. And if I am not mistaken, you told me of mutual people who had met you, and I do remember questioning on other boards about you before meeting you :)

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/15/2004 7:02:24 AM   
ShadowHwk


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ORIGINAL: RoughSexDom

It occurs to me that many " female Submissives" here are actually men. thus, the final no-realtime contact result.


That could be. But to some to whom this (collarme) is their first introduction into the life, A real life meeting would be a very BIG step. I can imagine more than a few of them bailing at the last minute. And as was pointed out in a previous post it is also likely that they are not exactly what they say they are. Usually a simple phone call and a webcam meeting can clear up LOTS of doubts. It's not a bad idea to insist on such before the first meeting, or even before embarking on an extended phonecall/email/chat "get to know you" adventure.

A couple of quick indications that your newest friend is pulling some sort of sham:

1. Not willing to exchange phone numbers.
2. Phone number given does not work.
3. Overly convoluted "call this phone number for two rings then call me at this number" type non-sense.
4. My "brother-in-law" is here... so we can't talk right now - and it appears that the "brother-in-law" is always (lives) there.
5. "I am staying at my sister's place and watching her kids while she is on vacation".
6. Area code for given phone number does not match the city/state of supposed residence.
7. Voice does not match supposed body type - not a sure indicator, but useful.
8. Non-smoker with a smokers hack.
9. "I don't drink", then has obviously slurred speech on the phone.

I am sure there are many others. Those are just a few that I have encountered.

Peace and Light
Terry

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/15/2004 1:11:52 PM   
EStrict


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8. Non-smoker with a smokers hack.


::Laughing:: actually Sir, this one is a bit hard. My mother has had a smoker's hack for ever. At least that was what I always though it was, until I developed it myself. It was normally in the morning, but it is any time my sinuses are acting up and I haven't taken the meds yet.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/15/2004 2:13:37 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		i have one too ;(
it's an asthma thing with me.
i've smoked about 8 cigarettes in my life.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/15/2004 3:30:28 PM   
ShadowHwk


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ORIGINAL: EStrict

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8. Non-smoker with a smokers hack.


::Laughing:: actually Sir, this one is a bit hard. My mother has had a smoker's hack for ever. At least that was what I always though it was, until I developed it myself. It was normally in the morning, but it is any time my sinuses are acting up and I haven't taken the meds yet.


Ok, fair enough. That one can be something other than a smokers hack... but in this case it wasn't. *laugh* And I get a bit of one when my sinuses are acting up too.

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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/16/2004 6:57:04 PM   
MistressDREAD


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Status: offline 		For those NOT aware ( NO NAMES MENTIONED )
the largest sexual organ Your body holds is Your
brain..............hence those whom have used their
largest sexual organ for satisfaction online would
understand its use and stimulating fullfillment but
for those whom have never used that organ for
sexual fullfillment well....... You still have sumthing
to learn and experiance is all I can say!




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RE: Suspicions....... - 4/16/2004 10:01:42 PM   
Estring


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Status: offline 		Sorry Dread, there is no way that I will believe that typing at a keyboard to someone else is as exciting as actually being with that person. Even phone sex beats that. All things being equal of course.

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