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Dec 30 2017, 1:22 am ET
Los Angeles man arrested in ‘swatting’ call that preceded fatal police shooting in Kansas

Los Angeles police arrested a 25-year-old man in a suspected "swatting" hoax 911 call in Kansas that ended in the fatal police shooting of an unarmed man.

The LAPD took Tyler Barriss of Los Angeles into custody in that city on Friday afternoon, on a fugitive warrant stemming from the Thursday evening incident in Kansas, a spokesman for the Los Angeles Police Department said.

Police in Wichita fatally shot a man identified by family members as Andrew Finch, 28, after officers responded to a hoax 911 call, police in Kansas said.

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
That's a great answer as to why so many unarmed people are subject to street execution, right?
All we have to do is tell the cub police is that everybody out there has a howitzer, so come out blasting.
"Well, I 'thought' he had a pinwheel or a .38, or remote control that looked like a bomb," because their police training taught them that if you slam a door down and he/she looks up in surprise, that is probable cause (for simple temporary questioning), which in this modern world being that "probable cause" get's to "justifiable homicide" lickity split.

We don't have all the details yet.
The cops showed up at a scene where they were told that there were hostages covered in gas.
He may or may not have made a move that looked like
grabbing a weapon. In that situation (and I am not saying it is ) how long do you wait?

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The incident took place late Thursday when police were called about a supposed domestic incident at a Kansas man's home, where he had shot his father and was holding his other family members at gunpoint, police said in a press conference Friday. When police arrived, the man who opened the door was told to raise his hands -- a command he obeyed until he moved his hands down to his waist, police said.

The officer fired one round, striking and killing the man. Police entered the home and found four people inside alive.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Maybe because those being arrested now have better weapons and are much more violent than those arrested in the past. Police officers have to respond accordingly.

Of course is more risk in being a cop.
On the other hand I have had two confrontations with the police.
One was a miscommunication.
A person noticed I was armed and panicked.
Cops showed up and knew I wasn't a threat but wanted to
ask me what I saw. I kept my hands where they could see
them, and right off they said they was not armed. At that point
I pulled my coat open and showed them that I was.
I held my coat open and let they take the gun.
We talked a while the person who panicked was brought down
and everything was cleared up.
The other occasion was when it seems I was swatted with the claim
That I was in illegal position of full auto weapons.
This time it was not local cops.
Both times I kept my hands in the open, did as I was told and didn't panic.
Neither time were they anything but courteous.

Could be that Edwirds attitude influenced things.

Of course. We had a nice discussion. The police told me that they removed the powder, but left the lead, knowing you couldn't tell the difference.

In actuality, I know a few good police persons, we work the same venues. I don't work those venues anymore, but it has gotten back to me that some of my LE live show partners are as perplexed as I am about this latest "instant death sentence" thing came into process.

They recognize it as "something new" themselves.

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You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

Thank you, you have just confirmed my view of the left's opinion of the police.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

If I may, I have watched people insult, ridicule and treat police officers who were just doing there job, without being complete asses when they really could have been.

While everyone is quick to blame ALL cops for having a bad attitude toward the citizens, no one seems to give a shit about the citizens treating cops like trash.

In answer to your question, I am quite sure that a number of cops have felt contempt for lefties who scream about the rights of offenders over the rights of victims.

I have heard liberals complain about the conditions in prisons and jails and turn around and propose crap that makes them almost 4 star hotels.

How would you feel if you were the arresting officer of some piece of scum that had already been sent up twice for rape/assault and hear some liberal ass attorney pull some fucking "he had a bad childhood, and cannot help himself." and then pull some psychiatrist out to prove the point, so the judge sends him to a state secure mental facility, and after a year he is declared 'cured' and not two weeks after release he rapes and damn near kills another woman?

Or how about the two pieces of scum in this case?

Fucking liberals screaming that the death penalty is cruel and inhumane, what about what they did to this family? Forget lethal injection, or something fast like using a dead fall hanging that snaps the neck, these two should have been slow roasted over a fire.

But hey, they get to live in a place, get three squares a day while the dad gets to visit the graves of his wife and two daughters. Their rights to life clearly meant more than the rights of the father to see justice done.

I was a cop, I saw some of the vilest pieces of human trash go in, serve short time because of good behavior and come out to commit more crimes. I have been the first on the scene where the victim was so savagely beaten they looked more like a road kill deer than a human, and some mother fucker gets the perp off on some 'mental' defense.

Christ with all the rights that the criminals have in this country we might as well abolish law enforcement.

Yes I support the death penalty, in fact I support bringing back public hangings in the court house square, firing squads, and for some, slow cooking them at the stake or staking them out over ant hills and take bets from the public on how long they survive.

In my opinion, many of these pieces of shit decided to ignore the rights of their victims and that should forfeit their rights for compassion, leniency, or a quick, painless execution.

Yes I agree there are bad cops, but what I dont agree with is this bullshit about it always being the cops fault.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Maybe because those being arrested now have better weapons and are much more violent than those arrested in the past. Police officers have to respond accordingly.

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Maybe because those being arrested now have better weapons and are much more violent than those arrested in the past. Police officers have to respond accordingly.

There is little evidence to support this statement. It is just biased speculation by you.

Officer Deaths From Firearms Declined 33 Percent in 2017

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

If I may, I have watched people insult, ridicule and treat police officers who were just doing there job, without being complete asses when they really could have been.

While everyone is quick to blame ALL cops for having a bad attitude toward the citizens, no one seems to give a shit about the citizens treating cops like trash.

In answer to your question, I am quite sure that a number of cops have felt contempt for lefties who scream about the rights of offenders over the rights of victims.

I have heard liberals complain about the conditions in prisons and jails and turn around and propose crap that makes them almost 4 star hotels.

How would you feel if you were the arresting officer of some piece of scum that had already been sent up twice for rape/assault and hear some liberal ass attorney pull some fucking "he had a bad childhood, and cannot help himself." and then pull some psychiatrist out to prove the point, so the judge sends him to a state secure mental facility, and after a year he is declared 'cured' and not two weeks after release he rapes and damn near kills another woman?

Or how about the two pieces of scum in this case?

Fucking liberals screaming that the death penalty is cruel and inhumane, what about what they did to this family? Forget lethal injection, or something fast like using a dead fall hanging that snaps the neck, these two should have been slow roasted over a fire.

But hey, they get to live in a place, get three squares a day while the dad gets to visit the graves of his wife and two daughters. Their rights to life clearly meant more than the rights of the father to see justice done.

I was a cop, I saw some of the vilest pieces of human trash go in, serve short time because of good behavior and come out to commit more crimes. I have been the first on the scene where the victim was so savagely beaten they looked more like a road kill deer than a human, and some mother fucker gets the perp off on some 'mental' defense.

Christ with all the rights that the criminals have in this country we might as well abolish law enforcement.

Yes I support the death penalty, in fact I support bringing back public hangings in the court house square, firing squads, and for some, slow cooking them at the stake or staking them out over ant hills and take bets from the public on how long they survive.

In my opinion, many of these pieces of shit decided to ignore the rights of their victims and that should forfeit their rights for compassion, leniency, or a quick, painless execution.

Yes I agree there are bad cops, but what I dont agree with is this bullshit about it always being the cops fault.

When did I say that? I was talking to somebody who's incapable of accepting that a member of your federal constabulary can ever be in the wrong. He was making excuses for the wanker who tried to arrest a nurse for refusing to give a dying man a blood taste, FFS.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

If I may, I have watched people insult, ridicule and treat police officers who were just doing there job, without being complete asses when they really could have been.

While everyone is quick to blame ALL cops for having a bad attitude toward the citizens, no one seems to give a shit about the citizens treating cops like trash.

In answer to your question, I am quite sure that a number of cops have felt contempt for lefties who scream about the rights of offenders over the rights of victims.

I have heard liberals complain about the conditions in prisons and jails and turn around and propose crap that makes them almost 4 star hotels.

How would you feel if you were the arresting officer of some piece of scum that had already been sent up twice for rape/assault and hear some liberal ass attorney pull some fucking "he had a bad childhood, and cannot help himself." and then pull some psychiatrist out to prove the point, so the judge sends him to a state secure mental facility, and after a year he is declared 'cured' and not two weeks after release he rapes and damn near kills another woman?

Or how about the two pieces of scum in this case?

Fucking liberals screaming that the death penalty is cruel and inhumane, what about what they did to this family? Forget lethal injection, or something fast like using a dead fall hanging that snaps the neck, these two should have been slow roasted over a fire.

But hey, they get to live in a place, get three squares a day while the dad gets to visit the graves of his wife and two daughters. Their rights to life clearly meant more than the rights of the father to see justice done.

I was a cop, I saw some of the vilest pieces of human trash go in, serve short time because of good behavior and come out to commit more crimes. I have been the first on the scene where the victim was so savagely beaten they looked more like a road kill deer than a human, and some mother fucker gets the perp off on some 'mental' defense.

Christ with all the rights that the criminals have in this country we might as well abolish law enforcement.

Yes I support the death penalty, in fact I support bringing back public hangings in the court house square, firing squads, and for some, slow cooking them at the stake or staking them out over ant hills and take bets from the public on how long they survive.

In my opinion, many of these pieces of shit decided to ignore the rights of their victims and that should forfeit their rights for compassion, leniency, or a quick, painless execution.

Yes I agree there are bad cops, but what I dont agree with is this bullshit about it always being the cops fault.

When did I say that? I was talking to somebody who's incapable of accepting that a member of your federal constabulary can ever be in the wrong. He was making excuses for the wanker who tried to arrest a nurse for refusing to give a dying man a blood taste, FFS.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri WTF is this world coming to when you have people willing to "swat" people they don't know? Holy shit this is getting ridiculous.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Maybe because those being arrested now have better weapons and are much more violent than those arrested in the past. Police officers have to respond accordingly.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

Thank you, you have just confirmed my view of the left's opinion of the police.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You and all your friends know that cops are brutal morons, and they can feel your contempt for them. This contempt is a major part of the problem.

Because, of course, that's purely a a one way process: no cop has ever felt contempt for lefties who don't deserve to be protected by the benevolent police state: these stupid liberals are even worse than the niggers, who at least have the excuse that they're too stupid to know any better.

Thank you, you have just confirmed my view of the left's opinion of the police.

He is pointing out that the same RWNJs who keep saying 'libruls think all police r subhuman', also act like the cops are always right, absolved of all blame in every case, and downplay their mistakes/prejudices.
Thanks to the RWNJs, America is a place where absolutely everyone should probably be considered armed and dangerous... but that doesn't mean this is the first time somebody has swatted someone, or that only the asshole caller is to blame.

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What is the world coming to when the police higher command have instilled as standard procedure to not even even bother properly vetting or questioning sufficiently the original caller before sending a heavily armed hair-trigger military-style squadron to somebody who's pissed somebody else off?

As has been pointed out already, "SWATting is most often done by those who DO know their intended victims. That's the whole point in the first place.

Like I said, police training and official procedure comes from policy bestowed from above.

Is it because they are actually that stupid, or is it that they have such animus toward the the lower echelons of society, and paid well enough for implementing just that?


See a pattern, here?