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CEO killed - 12/14/2024 8:40:12 AM

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Well. Anyone who's been watching the news lately in December 2024, Luigi killed healthcare CEO and now the debate of healthcare is front and center. I don't agree with shooting someone. But I do understand the publics outrage at our disgusting healthcare system. Insurance companies denying people healthcare amounts to murder in my opinion. One did it with a bullet. The other did it with the stroke of the pen. If the media can't figure that out, then that'd their problem.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/14/2024 11:20:31 PM

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It is common for communist-leaning psycho types to "understand' the "public outrage" after one of their deranged heroes slaughters an innocent man in a cold blooded act of terrorism

Communists have slaughtered over 100 million innocent people over the last 100 years after all, so it is completely in-character

Are bankers next, if they don't make loans that wild-eyed leftist freaks think they should, and people with abysmal credit go without homes

If Costco is forced to raise prices and someone goes hungry, does that make THEIR executives targets

Why not - and who decides.

How about doctors and nurses who make above average wages at the expense of drug addicts who can't afford their services

Final question - is turnabout fair play? In other words, is terrorism the preferred new way forward for both sides, if we don't like the outcomes of elections? Or just for your side.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/18/2024 1:19:35 PM

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But I do understand the publics outrage at our disgusting healthcare system. Insurance companies denying people healthcare amounts to murder in my opinion.

Having been through my own battle with US Healthcare, I can understand the urge.

I had been pre-approved for surgery for early cancer and after the surgery was done, they denied payment. Unbeknownst to me, in the two weeks between the approval and the surgery they changed the procedure code number. I spent a year fighting them and they ruined my credit in the meantime.

The attitude went to the very bottom to the customer service agents.

One conversation went like this:

Why was this denied?
We didn't authorize a sterilization surgery.
I wasn't sterilized, I had a cancerous lump removed.
No, you were sterilized.
One of us was there and I'm pretty sure it wasn't you.

I went through it for a year before my threat of having a lawyer take the case, they finally admitted that codes had changed.

US Healthcare gives bonuses to employees for denied claims. That has repercussions. I don't agree with what he did, but I can understand.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/18/2024 3:53:57 PM

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US Healthcare gives bonuses to employees for denied claims.

That is a lie - the Unfair Claims Practices Act forbids that under penalty of law.

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I can understand the urge.

Where do you draw the line on "understanding" random psychos assassinating business men and women or religious leasers or politicians etc, who they disagree with.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/18/2024 11:01:30 PM

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I vaguely remember a noise for Mike Pence. Maybe that was just for a hug. Around the neck. And Nancy Pelosi'e husband being attacked.

True communism doesn't exist on this planet. Maybe for the lowest socio-economic classes, but never for the oligarchs and those in power. Political ideals don't equate to violence. There are good people on both sides.

And even Trump has said our health insurance system sucks. That's why he has conceptss of a plan. Mind you, he's also said we may never actually see that plan. But it'll be better than Obamacare, which he claims to have singlehandedly saved.

Overthrowing an oppressive regime doesn't always mean becoming a better country. The American Constitution is still a brilliant document, though as a country, we still struggle to live up to it sometimes.

United is my Medicare plan. They give me like $225 a month on a card to buy OTC stuff, pay bills, and buy "healthy" food. I'm not mad at that.
We need to have a serious healthcare reform in this country, but I don't know what that would look like. There are just too many moving parts in the system to switch over to a socialized format. Even "Medicare for all" would be a huge change in how things are done, likely resulting in the unemployment of thousands in every state.

A lot of extreme ideas have tremendous downsides. The status quo is there for a reason, like it or not, and any change must be incremental or we risk everything crumbling down. But some.people.still think the status quo sucks and incremental change just isn't fast enough.
Costco for raise its prices, just like pretty much everywhere else had to due to inflation. The CEO of Costco wasn't trying to gouge consumers out of sheer greed. So the above scenario is assinine.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/19/2024 4:32:36 AM

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I vaguely remember a noise for Mike Pence. Maybe that was just for a hug. Around the neck. And Nancy Pelosi'e husband being attacked.

You believe that the Capitol Police and the Secret Service and the FBI and Nancy Pelosi and every other elitist in Washington DC allowed mere peasants to construct gallows in front of the Capitol, THEN allowed it to remain there overnight. THEN their Capitol Police eventually dismantled it and hauled it away as other refuse, neglecting to keep any part of it for evidence, including the noose... And that no one was ever questioned about it...

You heard the news, right - Inspector General Horowitz finally admitted that there were at least 26 FBI assets at the J6 Fedsurrection. OF COURSE they waited until AFTER the election to admit it, FOUR FUCKING YEARS after the fact, and OF COURSE they called that a "conspiracy theory"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/inspector-general-report-confirms-least-133600546.html

More on that same "gallows" hoax - Liz Cheney may be prison bound for witness tampering, because she coached Cassidy Hutchinson to lie while testifying to the J6 committee about President Trump's words and actions that day:

https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1869066458921316784

Regarding cat fight between Paul Pelosi and his male prostitute friend? That has nothing to do with President Trump. WTF is wrong with you?

When will Democrats finally understand that everything they believe, is either a lie or a hoax.

Stephen A. Smith: “Here we are yet again finding even more evidence to Donald Trump's claims. I'm really, really sick and tired of finding something else that the Democrats have lied about”

Video - https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1868399298481656048

And I will ask again - exactly where does your party draw the line, on terrorism being an acceptable political weapon

WTF is wrong with y'all

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RE: CEO killed - 12/22/2024 12:59:39 PM

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I have no idea what Dems would have had to gain from organizing J6. Without a motive, I find it hard to believe.
And I never said Paul.Pelosi's attack had anything to do with Trump, just that it happened and that I believe it was politically motivated. Political violence = terrorism in my book.
Of course, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/22/2024 4:14:59 PM

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I have no idea what Dems would have had to gain from organizing J6. Without a motive, I find it hard to believe.
And I never said Paul.Pelosi's attack had anything to do with Trump, just that it happened and that I believe it was politically motivated. Political violence = terrorism in my book.
Of course, one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

The motive is obvious, and they've talked openly about all of this - blame Republicans for the kind of thing Democrats are famous for (violent bloody riots), imprison President Trump as a "fascist insurrectionist" and use their scripted J6 committee theater as Stalinist propaganda to usurp the 2024 election

Then double down on their censorship machinations, flood America with enough illegal voters to turn every purple state and Texas deep blue, stack the Supreme Court, make DC and Puerto Rico states for the extra Senators and Congressmen who would seal Democrat majorities in the House and the Senate, and thereby insure their cult becomes and remains a dictatorship forever

Just like every other "unburdened by the past" commie shit hole on the planet

"They would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for Elon Musk and that damn X of his"

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RE: CEO killed - 12/22/2024 11:14:17 PM

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There's really no sense in derailing yet another thread with your crazy bs. The syphilis guy that hates gingers and Jews is more fun than you anymore. I don't care to argue them here. You wouldn't accept the truth anyway

I also won't argue the word "terrorist", because the crime wasont3nded to facilitate a change in the healthcare system, supposedly.

But this guy seems to have been acting alone, because of a personal issue with the insurance company. This isn't some Bernie Bro u3pp bent on bringing down the system.
I don't have anythingahainst the existence of X. I haven't used Twitter in years, but that's because I just don't like.it
.I don't use TokTok or SnapChat either. I've limited my social media for the last several years. I 'm happier that way and my blood pressure stays lower. I haven't embraced podcasts, but I don't like talking radio or even radio DJ's talking.

But I'm fairly confident January 6th of 2025 will not be violent. Nancy Pelosi has David Copperfield working on making the whole Capitol Building disappear the night before. But if that doesn't work, I guess we:lol have to unleash that Jewish Space Laser or use.one of those hurricane guns from China.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/23/2024 9:39:29 AM

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You're not 'arguing" or debating anything. You stated that you were clueless. I threw you some free clues, and you reacted with typical cultish ad hominem fallacies

Go away, you won't be missed.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/23/2024 1:40:43 PM

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But this guy seems to have been acting alone, because of a personal issue with the insurance company.

I fear that this has put it on the radar of more people having to deal with their own or loved ones medical issues. Insurance companies denial leads to many deaths and suffering.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/23/2024 10:12:19 PM

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I think most people already have anecdotes of insurance companies doing them or a loved one wrong. Just as many have anecdotes about medical professionals that should have done more, or did too much. The new Matlock show blames the lawyers that defended big pharma. The Connors killed off Roseanne Barr's character with an opioid overdose.

I remember a Denzel movie where his son had cancer or something and he took matters into his own hands as well.

I haven't heard any details about the shooter's political ties, if he had any. I'm surprised there isn't more discussion of the "ghost gun" reportedly used in the murder and how easy it is to just 3D print a handgun anymore. That really should be discussed more. It's fucking scary.

I doubt this murder will change tow the insurance world operates at all though. Hell, Ford is still making Broncos, so many years after the OJ parade.

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RE: CEO killed - 12/24/2024 10:41:55 AM

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I fear that this has put it on the radar of more people having to deal with their own or loved ones medical issues. Insurance companies denial leads to many deaths and suffering.

There's always "free" Canadian health care

Perfect in every way, they say

OH WAIT - should someone "understandably" give Trudeau the commie terrorist / CEO treatment

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Woman's right leg amputated after waiting 8 days for bed at Winnipeg's HSC to treat open wound

Roseanne Milburn says amputation went well, but she's frustrated surgery complications led to this outcome

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RE: CEO killed - 12/26/2024 3:24:23 AM

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With Canada being out closest neighbor, it can be easy to compare the two countries. Seeing the faults of their healthcare system doesn't deter us from wanting ours to be better.

Bosco has quoted a news report. There would be nothing to print if it was normal. Just like the news didn't report on the CEOs that didn't get murdered. Or the people that didn't murder them.

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