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BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (1/26/2025 3:04:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Violent criminals were still pardoned. Your reaction? Do you stand with the blue? Do you support the pardon a someone who was convicted of stabbing an officer in the neck with a stun gun?


That was four years ago, prison time has been served, much if it in solitary confinement - which the UN considers torture.

And there are mitigating circumstances.

For example - if malicious prosecution isn't a thing, why did General Mark Milley and all of the J6 committee require pardons?

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“J6ers who beat cops” is a misleading frame, to put it politely.

They are people who already served more time than most people with similar offenses. Anything extra is political imprisonment. That’s the right frame.

Blame for the violence is not limited to the offenders. It is one-third because our election systems, by design, signaled to half the country that an election was stolen. I agree they might be wrong. The election design flaw — lack of transparency — combined with an odd “come from behind everywhere that mattered” and the violation of past bellweather patterns, signaled corruption.

If the protesters were right, and I’d bet they were, given that every other American institution has been confirmed to be crooked, they acted in the American tradition.

The other one-third blame for the violence is with Pelosi and Milley and whoever else turned down the right amount of security.

In other words, it was an inviting trap. Intentional or otherwise. If protesters saw no hope of getting into the Capitol, would they have acted so aggressively?

This is where the NPCs claim everyone including Trump “knew” it was a fair election. No, that is fucking stupid. There is no way for any citizen to know who won any federal election unless the winner is outside the inner circle, like Trump, and still wins all the swing states.

We don’t even know why voting machines exist, unless the purpose is cheating. Has anyone claimed they are faster, cheaper, more secure, easier to maintain or more trusted than paper? Nope.

And again, the context is every other system in America, from finance to science to healthcare to every part of government, is somewhat obviously corrupt.

But the elections are pure? You’d have to be very…young to believe that.

https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1882595826704564651








JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (1/27/2025 6:55:58 PM)

So your response is that it doesn't matter, cuz it's in the past. Um..... Charles Manson, p Diddy, r Kelly.... All dealing with stuff from the past. As they should be.

The UN.sayws solitary confinement is torture? Well, I haven't heard the US banning it, under Biden or Trump. So I guess it's ok here. Oh, I do believe it can be used as torture, but it's mostly used for punishment.

I wonder what the UN would say about prisons for profit, or about the US having the highest levels of population incraceratedalso, Im vaguely interested in when you started giving a fuck about the UN? I suppose when it published something you found useful.

Oh, your buddy Ron DeSantis isn't having such a good time in Florida now
I think maybe the state legislature hates him.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (1/27/2025 8:08:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoVSo

your response is that it doesn't matter, cuz it's in the past.



That is insane. That isn't what I posted at all.

Try again.




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (1/27/2025 10:21:39 PM)

You actually did. Totally.you said it was four years ago. And sure, the crime happened 4 years ago, but I'm not sure when the convictions rolled in, or when anyone started serving time. For the crimes they were connected of, or plead guilty.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (1/28/2025 5:50:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

You actually did. Totally.you said it was four years ago.


I did not write that "it doesn't matter" - those are your words, attributed to me. And there is context involved. This isn't CBS, you don't get to creatively edit my post and change my answers to fit your cult narrative - we can all see what I wrote.

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And sure, the crime happened 4 years ago, but I'm not sure when the convictions rolled in, or when anyone started serving time. For the crimes they were connected of, or plead guilty.


You admit ignorance in those two sentences, yet you preach as if you're the great all-knowing guru

This is what President Reagan meant when he said, "the problem with the Democrats is that they know so much that isn't so." - still true today.

Here is Senator John Fetterman mowing down the partisan hacks on 'The View' with truth (video at the link):

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'View' hosts do doubletake when Fetterman calls charges against Trump 'politically motivated' | Nikolas Lanum & Alexa Moutevelis, Fox News

'The judicial system gets weaponized and targeted political enemies for political gain,' the Pennsylvania Democrat said

Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman told "The View" on Monday that he believes the New York criminal trial against President Donald Trump was "politically motivated."

While discussing Trump and former President Joe Biden's controversial pardons, Fetterman said, "I also agree that the trial in this city, in New York, was politically motivated, that wouldn’t otherwise have been prosecuted if it was someone else."

Co-host Sunny Hostin seemed surprised and brought the conversation back around after, "Just for clarification, did you mean that the 34-count case in which Donald Trump was found guilty of various financial crimes was politically motivated here in New York?"

"I found that when the judicial system gets weaponized and targets political enemies for political gain, I think that’s inappropriate," Fetterman confirmed.

"I think that degrades our collective trust in this very important institution, whether that’s a Democrat going after a Republican, or a Republican going after a Democrat," he said. "I like to call it strikes and balls, but the judicial system has to remain impartial. I mean, that’s really the cornerstone of our society."

Trump was sentenced to an unconditional discharge in early January after being found guilty on charges of falsifying business records stemming from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s yearslong investigation.

Fetterman also responded to accusations that his views and policies have shifted to the right, saying he would make "a pretty terrible Republican."

Hostin asked about his "commitment" to the Democratic Party considering his recent decision to join Truth Social and his views on issues like fracking and immigration.

Fetterman also met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago ahead of his second inauguration on January 20, telling Fox News that he is a senator "for all Pennsylvanians" — not just Democrats.

He told "The View" he had a "positive" meeting with Trump and found him to be "kind" and "cordial."

Some of these actions have fueled speculation online that Fetterman may change his party affiliation one day.

The Pennsylvania senator told "The View" that he rejects the pardons given by Trump to January 6 defendants and has gone on record stating that he will not join the Republican Party.

https://x.com/OwenGregorian/status/188421597396168705
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JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/13/2025 3:20:23 AM)

Fetterman has already said that ain't gonna happen. I don't expect him to be adversarial unless he has reason.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/13/2025 4:19:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Fetterman has already said that ain't gonna happen. I don't expect him to be adversarial unless he has reason.


Please be more specific. Which post and what "ain't gonna happen".

Are you trying to deny what everyone with a mind is keenly aware of - that Democrats abused the justice system and every surveillance apparatus along with their partisan media hacks, to try to wreck the political opposition?




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/13/2025 7:49:16 PM)

I was replying to your last post before you edited it. Originally, you needed it at the "online speculation" part.




LumusAgain -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/13/2025 9:46:50 PM)

*laughs in Canadian*

Don't worry. We don't take annexation seriously. Watch the tariff drama, though.

You do realize this is nothing new, right. It's the shell game. Throw out as many distractions as you can, run with the ones that gain traction.

Just my two cents. I wouldn't wish to interrupt a classic post, wherein only two people earnestly engage whilst the rest feast upon the proverbial popcorn.

Cheers to you, be kind until you need to be cruel. (Not a rule, just advice, worth the value you give it.)




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 12:25:48 AM)

Asicj as I hate it, I think the tariffs are likely at some point. I doubt military invasion would happen, but you guys do have oil up there, so maybe.

The first wave of an American invasion will probably have canes, walkers, and wheelchairs though. These fuckers are trying to gut Medicaid. That's medical insurance for poor people, the poor elderly, children, disabled... The ones that can't fight back.

But don't worry, I've had all my shots. .




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 1:54:40 AM)

Back to the title of the thread:

A lot of people seem to be taking the name change hard. I personally don't remember the last time I said the Gulf of Mexico. I had to do a Google search, because I only know 2 gulfs anyway, with the other being the Persian Gulf. In conversation, I just say 'the gulf'. People know what I mean.

Hurricane season will be fun, as weathermen tell us the latest storm's position in the Gulf of America. Or maybe the news will be reporting on an oil spill in the Gulf of America.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 5:33:11 AM)


I really think the only reason the president renamed it is that it allows us to continue growing our economy and providing energy to even the poorest Americans by doing an end run around Joe Biden's handlers, who restricted our ability to drill for oil in the Gulf Of Mexico.

We can't drill in the Gulf Of Mexico, but nothing says we can't drill in the Gulf Of America.




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 9:17:23 AM)

That's what I think too. Trump may be able to decide what the body of water is named on American maps, but he doesn't have the power to do so for the world. I heard the president of Mexico is calling it an attack on her country's sovereignty or something.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 10:05:51 AM)


"Trust the experts." - and don't ask questions. Questions like, who pays these "experts".

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Video - Historian Warns If AP Doesn't Keep Wrongly Calling Body Of Water Gulf Of Mexico, US May Slide Into Authoritarianism

https://dailycaller.com/2025/02/14/historian-katie-couric-ap-writing-gulf-of-america-authoritarianism/




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 10:30:30 AM)

I think we're already in the early stages of authoritarianism. I don't think the AP can save us.

Allowing more oil to be drilled doesn't directly help the US or do much for the prices at the pump. The US hasn't nationalized oil, so global companies like BP and Exxon would be the ones profiting.

The US doesn't own the entire body of water either and can only claim so much of it under international law. So renaming the Gulf is just dumb anyway and really helps nobody. Gas prices are now at a record high, largely because of the global concerns caused by Trump's tariffs (among other actions). The market seems to think the US is unstable right now.

Higher gas prices will inevitably drive up the cost of groceries and cause more inflation. Directly because of Trump.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 12:23:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I think we're already in the early stages of authoritarianism.


What is the source of the propaganda that drives your belief system




JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/14/2025 7:49:30 PM)

American Government in high school, taught by Mr Ellis.

But at least you didn't deny anything.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/15/2025 2:14:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

American Government in high school, taught by Mr Ellis.


You learned about President Trump's tariffs in government school? And they lied to you about gas prices being a record high right now, and blamed it on the president?

WTF - how old are you. 16? 17?


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But at least you didn't deny anything.


I posted that it is propaganda, so... [8|]





JVoV -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/15/2025 4:25:08 PM)

You asked about my belief system, which I answered. Aside from the Constitution, I've read the Bible and studied history.

Of course, history isn't always a reliable source of information about the past.

A prime example is the word 'transgrnder' being removed from the Stonewall Memorial. Any factual retelling of the events that drives most modern gay rights can't be discussed properly without mentioning the transgenders that helped spark the civil rights movement.

Creative history rewrites usually lead to problems when the truth is discovered.




BoscoX -> RE: The Gulf of America (2/15/2025 4:34:36 PM)


Your belief system, as in "Trump is Hitler" blah blah blah

That kind of insanity





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