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Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 3:59:23 AM   
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Since November 5th 2024, every day has been like Christmas for me

Here's a gem that I was presented with a few days ago - our brilliant Vice President Vance spanked our former allies hard, due to their cancelling the Romanian election, their threatening to cancel a German election, and their throwing political dissidents in prison

Because of their Soviet-style tactics, Vice President Vance very fittingly threatened a withdrawal from NATO. After all, why should we support and defend tyrants?

We should not.

Video of the full 20 minute speech here: https://x.com/TXHockeyRef/status/1890448816718893103




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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 7:26:23 AM   
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If the US leaves NATO, the countries of Europe will no longer acquire weapons from US arms manufacturers, which is a huge market.

I hope Vance does this, as it'd be better for both Europe and the USA (in fact the whole world), but those corporations might be too powerful.

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 7:56:21 AM   
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If the US leaves NATO, the countries of Europe will no longer acquire weapons from US arms manufacturers, which is a huge market.

I hope Vance does this, as it'd be better for both Europe and the USA (in fact the whole world), but those corporations might be too powerful.


Sure, let them defend themselves with vastly inferior weapons and technology - which, Europe is floundering badly when it comes to tech.

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Overregulation has crippled European industry, making it less competitive globally. While the U.S. and China embrace innovation, the EU focuses on compliance, bureaucracy, and red tape—driving businesses elsewhere. For years, instead of investing in technology and innovation, Europe imposed regulations on whatever China and America produced and invested in bonds. Now, America and China are the world's sole producers, and Europe is left watching. Europe suffers most from a lack of leadership. https://x.com/MetekhanNews/status/1891503586946765239


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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 8:15:02 AM   
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Some context:

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VIDEO - JD Vance: "The leader, I forget exactly which official it was within the European Union, but sent Elon this threatening letter that basically said, we're gonna arrest you if you platform Donald Trump, who, by the way, is the likely next president of The United States."

"So what America should be saying is, oh, if NATO wants us to continue supporting them and NATO wants us to continue to be a good participant in this military alliance, why don't you respect American values and respect free speech?"

"Excuse me. It's insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn't gonna be pro free speech. I think we can do both, but we've gotta say American power comes with certain strings attached."

"One of those is respect free speech, especially in our European allies. Like, look, I'm not gonna go to some backwoods country and tell them how to live their lives, but European countries should theoretically share American values especially about some very basic things like free speech."

https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1890873894527221824


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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 12:07:55 PM   
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There is no possible way this would bite us in the ass. /sarcasm

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 1:55:32 PM   
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There is no possible way this would bite us in the ass. /sarcasm


I know that a Democrat could never understand this, but fee speech is worth fighting for.

In related news, CBS is cheerleading the Soviet-style tyrants

VIDEO - https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1891231415565443373

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 6:23:55 PM   
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From far left NEWSWEEK:

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Americans Shocked by '60 Minutes' Report on German Speech Policing

A 60 Minutes segment on Germany's approach to policing online speech has ignited fierce debate on both sides of the Atlantic after it aired in the U.S. on Sunday. Critics have called the country's laws "Orwellian," while defenders insist they are necessary to prevent hate-fueled violence.

The CBS News piece showcased how German authorities crack down on online speech deemed harmful or offensive under the country's stringent speech laws. The report documented early-morning police raids targeting individuals suspected of posting content that could incite hatred, including insults and even memes.

Why It Matters

The debate over Germany's online speech laws gained traction in the U.S. after Vice President JD Vance, speaking at the Munich Security Conference on Friday, accused European nations of suppressing free speech and marginalizing right-wing parties like the Alternative for Germany (AfD).

Vance argued that censorship and government overreach pose a greater threat to European democracy than external adversaries like Russia or China. German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius pushed back, calling Vance's comparison of parts of Europe to authoritarian regimes "unacceptable."

MORE - https://www.newsweek.com/americans-shocked-60-minutes-report-german-free-speech-policing-2032241


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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/17/2025 11:55:14 PM   
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AOC is being threatened with deportation because she did a webinar on Constitutional Rights. I don't think we have any freedom of speech to share right now.

The EU leaders have decided to ramp up their support of Ukraine, there by making the Trump/Putin peace negotiations completely moot.

And why does that bother me so much? Well, our standing in the world hasn't been fought for in a long long time. Europe could easily decide that they don't really need us anymore, kicking us out if NATO before Trump has a chance to pull us out. The US dollar is the world standard for trade, but they may push the Euro instead. Any of our military bases in Europe are owned by the host country, who may decide they don't need us any more.

I've already heard suggestions of banning American food imports, which would devastate our farmers.

If course, as Orlando is such a tourist economy, I worry about that and would expect Europeans to travel to other countries instead. Plus the whole defense systems thing, as been do have Martin Marietta here.

Yup, the US really has nothing to gain and everything to lose.

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/18/2025 3:16:24 AM   
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AOC is being threatened with deportation because she did a webinar on Constitutional Rights.


All you do is repeat baseless propaganda and lies that have been spoon fed to you by your neocon war pig cult

You cannot cite your source because you are rightfully ashamed to do so.

You have no real understanding of how the tariffs are designed or how they are working, and taking the time to unwind your mindwash is pointless because you refuse to see.



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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/18/2025 3:21:30 AM   
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Authoritarian Euro psychotrash even tried to sabotage our own free speech and affect our elections.

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Video - JD Vance exposes how a powerful EU official threatened Elon Musk with arrest if he platformed Donald Trump on X.

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1891494642236965238


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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/18/2025 9:29:22 PM   
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I understand tariffs. The intended goal is to protect or increase domestic production, preferably of a particular product, or to economically punish a country for behavior we don't approve of. The tariffs would generally be paid to Customs when the imported goods are received, with the moneys collected going to the federal government's coffers. The money is paid by the importer. Sometimes, the manufacturer owns the export/import companies and sometimes not. Either way, the costs would be passed on to the end buyer. Ideally, American-made rquivenlant products would be available at the same cost, or cheaper, than the fireign-nade items, or there is a plan on place to make that happen in a reasonable timefram

Trade deals are negotiated between countries to remove such artificial blockades and this has a tendency to lower prices on products, though entire industries can be sent to a other country, if the manufacturer isn't concerned about American jobs as much as they are about profit margins.
The use of tariffs should be strategic, because the other country may retaliate. Even the threat of tariffs can damage the trade relationship.

Tariffs can be a really good thing, but I believe our economy isn't prepared for them now and would suffer greatly, especially with all the other policies this administration wants to put in place. I also do not believe that the proposed tariffs could possibly have the advertised results, nor would most policies proposed.

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/18/2025 10:02:56 PM   
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All of the social "welfare" programs the federal government has put into place for American citizens always benefit more than just the recipient citizen. The SNAP program (food stamps) also benefits retailer's, good manufacturers, and farmers each year.

Medicaid, Medicare, and the Affordable Care Act benefit doctors, insurance companies,
retailer's, manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies as well as the recipients.

Companies like WalMart (which takes in roughly 25% of all SNAP benefits annually) are directly subsidized by such "welfare" programs. The pharmacy is also cashing in on Medicare & Medicaid benefits. I have no idea what percentage of Social Security or SSI benefits the company takes in annually.

Sure, I believe most government spending could be more efficient and there are ways to get there. I don't think this administration has proposed any policies that do that yet though.

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/19/2025 4:04:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

I understand tariffs. The intended goal is to protect or increase domestic production, preferably of a particular product, or to economically punish a country for behavior we don't approve of. The tariffs would generally be paid to Customs when the imported goods are received, with the moneys collected going to the federal government's coffers. The money is paid by the importer. Sometimes, the manufacturer owns the export/import companies and sometimes not. Either way, the costs would be passed on to the end buyer. Ideally, American-made rquivenlant products would be available at the same cost, or cheaper, than the fireign-nade items, or there is a plan on place to make that happen in a reasonable timefram

Trade deals are negotiated between countries to remove such artificial blockades and this has a tendency to lower prices on products, though entire industries can be sent to a other country, if the manufacturer isn't concerned about American jobs as much as they are about profit margins.
The use of tariffs should be strategic, because the other country may retaliate. Even the threat of tariffs can damage the trade relationship.

Tariffs can be a really good thing, but I believe our economy isn't prepared for them now and would suffer greatly, especially with all the other policies this administration wants to put in place. I also do not believe that the proposed tariffs could possibly have the advertised results, nor would most policies proposed.


Joe Biden allowed China, Canada, and Mexico to flood the United States with cheap Chinese fentanyl, meth, and everything else. As a result we are losing hundreds of thousands of young people to overdoses, millions of lives have been destroyed in hundreds of different ways - I have been personally affected, lost someone very close and dear.

Joe Biden allowed many other nations to impose steep tariffs on our products without penalty.

Joe Biden allowed all of that and more, even threw our borders wide open to terrorists, and gang members, and human traffickers, all of the very worst kind of people there are.

No more. You don't screw with the United States under President Trump. You don't screw with elections, and you don't screw with free speech.

There's a new sheriff in town, and there's a new golden age on the horizon.

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/19/2025 4:41:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

All of the social "welfare" programs the federal government has put into place for American citizens always benefit more than just the recipient citizen. The SNAP program (food stamps) also benefits retailer's, good manufacturers, and farmers each year.

Medicaid, Medicare, and the Affordable Care Act benefit doctors, insurance companies,
retailer's, manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies as well as the recipients.

Companies like WalMart (which takes in roughly 25% of all SNAP benefits annually) are directly subsidized by such "welfare" programs. The pharmacy is also cashing in on Medicare & Medicaid benefits. I have no idea what percentage of Social Security or SSI benefits the company takes in annually.

Sure, I believe most government spending could be more efficient and there are ways to get there. I don't think this administration has proposed any policies that do that yet though.


The feral government has been giving billions of FEMA money to illegals through Democrats and friends of Democrats, who skim massive amounts off of the money that passes through their hands - and that's just one tiny aspect of what's been going on

The levels of waste, fraud, grift, and abuse is insane

As a result, we are paying two trillion dollars alone per year in interest on our debt - your debt and mine

All so that Democrats can get rich by destroying everything - because once we're bankrupt, NO ONE gets fed off the federal teat. Not babies, not old people, not quadriplegics - no one.

Trump, Musk, and Doge are literally saving the world from you and your deranged oligarch cult

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/19/2025 6:17:39 AM   
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VIDEO - JD Vance: “UK will be first Islamist country with nuclear weapons.”

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1892129799339974810


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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/20/2025 3:07:35 AM   
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FR No he did not! Putin and Lukashenko were absent! He talked sh ...e and rubb--sh. What a waste of time and money. Why do you not keep the village idiots safely in the loomey bin and criminals locked up? No guts any longer- where are those Americans with brain and guts?
Truth is lie and lie is truth now? All turned into orange parrots now?
American greatness - what a deplorable performance

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/20/2025 5:42:39 AM   
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FR No he did not! Putin and Lukashenko were absent! He talked sh ...e and rubb--sh. What a waste of time and money. Why do you not keep the village idiots safely in the loomey bin and criminals locked up? No guts any longer- where are those Americans with brain and guts?
Truth is lie and lie is truth now? All turned into orange parrots now?
American greatness - what a deplorable performance



Do you have anything of substance to add? Are you denying that Euro leaders are authoritarians who increasingly censor speech and imprison dissidents?

Because I have provided proof that they do all of that, and more. It is becoming very Orwellian.

And your reaction... It appears to be a mix of panic and denial mixed with some other extreme issues on your part

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/20/2025 9:19:27 PM   
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I don't see an actual plan from the GOP Congress to reduce the national debt and Trump had the biggest in our nation's history in his first term. We haven't had a balanced budget since Bill Clinton was in office. So your comments about that are just total fucking bullshit.

Md4ig overdoses didn't begin when Biden took office and I kinda doubt they'll stop during Trump's second term. Aside from that, this thread is about Europe, so none of the countries you mentioned. Please stay on topic. Maybe take your ADHD meds.

So you have shown that not only will you lie, you'll do whatever you can to distract and confuse. It's impossible to carry on a conversation about any serious topic this way.

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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/21/2025 11:17:49 AM   
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Yes I deny your idiot comments, Bosock. We don't need any yokel from Pennsilltucky whose mom hasn't taught him how to behave properly when on visit to loyal friends to tell us how to vote. None of his, none of your f..ing business. You and your buddy can stick your endless drivel of Russian progaganda via your mindless influsion drain where the sun won't shine. Dump this at home and don't forget to clean properly afterwards.


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RE: Vance Gives European Tyrants A Good Spanking - 2/21/2025 11:20:30 AM   
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Yes I deny your idiot comments, Bosock. We don't need any yokel from Pennsilltucky whose mom hasn't taught him how to behave properly when on visit to loyal friends to tell us how to vote. None of his, none of your f..ing business. OUR business, only ours. You and your buddy can stick your endless drivel of Russian progaganda via your mindless influsion drain where the sun won't shine. Dump this at home and don't forget to clean properly afterwards.




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