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tpas69 -> disipline (7/30/2006 11:45:43 PM)

when is the right time to start disipline ?



cacodylic -> RE: disipline (7/30/2006 11:51:09 PM)

right after a spelling lesson



shivvy -> RE: disipline (7/30/2006 11:58:07 PM)

i believe that discipline should start right at the very begining. i think subs/slaves in someways are very similar to children, at least, i think i am anyway. i think i am happiest when i have a structured routine and i think i am at my most secure when i know i have rules and how far i can push. so consistency is also important.
 
i think Master needs to establish His control and then maintain it. so His self-discipline and His control of me need to be there from the outset... i'm sure somebody will disagree me[;)]



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 12:01:42 AM)

At about 1 year- cognition, recognition and motor skills have developed at that point to begin remembering training functions and shape behavior.

That's for humans at least.



shivvy -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 12:08:08 AM)

lol at LA, thank you hun, but i think the op woz actually talking about subs/slaves[;)]
 
of course... i might be wrong.. wouldn't be the first time[&:]
 
luv,
 
shiv
xx



popeye1250 -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 12:15:58 AM)

ASAP. As soon as possible.



Mavis -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 12:48:10 AM)

As soon as prospective disciplinee signals overtly that it is welcomed or desired.  (Assuming discliplinER is in agreement, lol)

i just mean, from first contact?  Not for me, i prefer completely peer interaction at first. But for others, the overt signs of a willingness to discipline, train, correct are sought from the beginning.  i think Your reading of that preference might be the first clue if you're hitting it off.

yup, i'm saying to some extent, there is an element of mind-reading to this, just like anyplace else humans interact.



nephandi -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 2:31:20 AM)

i think as soon as the relationship is established. The Dom needs to mae whis wishes nown and be able to enforce them.



slavejlb -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 2:58:53 AM)

yea if he is man enough and not scared of hurting his slave,or how she might react,  ohGod she might run away or something else.  cynical yes but prove several times
take care and be safe
slave jlb



srllile7 -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 3:04:32 AM)


I agree with as soon as the relationship is started but would like to add that I feel with discpline there need’s to be clear rules laid out. It can become very confusing and hard if you sub is displined every 10 seconds for things that they have done that they did not know were wrong. This will not only cause confusion but personally I would begin to loose faith in the person I was with and for lack of better words and brain function at this point I would become emotionally distraught.



slavejlb -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 3:30:57 AM)

dear Srllile7
first let me say i hope that is right,
you maybe young which youth is a wondering thing. and if you smart you will hold onto for as long as you can.
for me i am old, and carry to many scares emontional and other, and become cold in many ways,
take care and be safe
slave jlb



BillsGalSusan -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 4:08:46 AM)

What do you mean by discipline? My experience is limited to one dom, but I know that I had the sense that my behaviour was being, urmmm, modified to suit him very early on.

Another Susan



littleone35 -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 6:01:14 AM)

I think disipline should be administred  if the sub/slave earnes one.  It should be understood  from the stat that if the sub/slave breaks the rules she will be displined.
 
Matt's littleone



JessieMe -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 6:03:34 AM)

Can you please rephrase the question so as to indicate if you are talking about:

1. at what point in the relationship

2. at what point after "disobedience" is noted

3. at what point after <fill in the blank if 1. or 2. is not accurate>



DanielsHeart -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 9:56:14 AM)

Day one.

In Master's home, discipline is not punishment it is the ability to control my behavior at all times.

Correction/Punishment, that also began on Day one.  His wishes are given to me, i am asked if i understand and accept them.  When i acknowledge that I understand and accept them I am then responsible to obey them.  Disobedience to something i understand is quickly corrected.

Daniel's heart



RavenMuse -> RE: disipline (7/31/2006 11:13:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tpas69
when is the right time to start disipline ?


Self discipline - at as early an age as possible!

But I assume you mean discipline within a D/s relationship context. Again, as early as possible. Once she starts to submit she is accepting control, boundrys begin to be set, the outline of the relationship starts to be built. No point setting a boundry that you won't hold to. Don't draw a line if you are not going to ensure it isn't crossed.

How you do that... there are many ways and its a whole diffrent topic!



trixr4kids -> RE: discipline (7/31/2006 11:53:36 AM)

Lack of discipline sets bad habits in motion in my opinion. If you intend to discipline a sub as any Master should the training period should include the structure of a disciplinarian from the start. If not in my opinion the sub running around without rules would be neglected to start with & would form bad habits that would be hard to alter without resentment later.

For cacodylic. For goodness sakes get off your high horse & stop being rude. Not everyone is an excellent speller & not spelling words correctly does not mean people shouldn't be able to post without your public criticism. This is not a spelling class.



Archer -> RE: discipline (7/31/2006 10:51:37 PM)

Discipline starts from day one with all of us, it's if we choose to recognize it or not that varies.
Discipline in it's classic definition is teaching/learning.
Now it is certainly easier to have discipline start from day one if you have a system for administering the teaching/ learning method you want to use.

Discipline as a matter of undesireable consequeces is what we tend to think about, but lets not limit ourselvs to just that.

I much prefer the entire disciplin dynamic when it involves consequences for both good and poor behaviour.

In Leather

Archer



asiandoll27 -> RE: discipline (8/1/2006 1:49:05 AM)

I am not too sure if this answers the question, but it starts early in the relationship, as a means of enforcement and guidence. For some - it may be more than just that at the begining - all depending on the sub and the Master/Mistress.



cindyxdresser -> RE: disipline (1/6/2008 1:37:26 AM)

Disipline needs to begin as soon as you give your self to your owner.you need to be punished from the very first time you missbehave



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