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SusanofO -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 5:02:06 PM)

Noah is a Sadistic Daddy Dom. Aren't you Noah? (kinda sorta? That's the impression I've gotten from your profile - But- I could be way off base. If so, please correct my misimpression).
P.S. Noah: I'll shut up anytime. Just let me know. Just trying to keep things flowin' and the helpful discussion rollin'...[:)][:D]

- Susan



WhipTheHip -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 5:29:19 PM)

Hi Lucky Albatross,

> I think you've got a lot of stereotypes, generalizations and illusions
> about yourself and how you would work in the scene.
 
You are probably right.  But what I have is just based on the feedback
I've received so far from all the subs I've communicated with.

> Slow down and explore some more and figure out the truth of
> things for yourself.
 
I am at a standstill.  Without a sub or a partner it is hard to get far.
 
Warm regards,
Michael




BenignPlague -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 5:36:56 PM)

I don't recall where I heard the expression, but it was something like "people want to get to know the whole you, but they don't want to do it all at once".  Go at your own pace, if you're looking for someone who can handle that all at once, don't feel pressured to lean to one side or another just to increase the hits on your profile.



WhipTheHip -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 6:15:47 PM)

Hi JessieMe,
 
> Ok..let me see.. if someone told me these are my extreme
> fantasies when I have not gotten far enough into a relationship
> to really understand the context of them.. yeah.... I would run
> screaming as well...

Right, but I don't understand why?  It is a common fantasy. 
A lot of females share my fantasy. I mean they fantasize 
having it happen to them.  It is just a fantasy. No one really 
wants to do it, or really wants to have it done to them in real
life.  In the fantasy, there is no blood, and the pain is erotic,
not like it would really be in real life.
 
> Are you REALLY telling people these things early on??
 
Yes.
 
> If your goal is to keep them hanging around long enough
> to think you are sane.. WHY?

Because I am 100% open.  I hide nothing from other people.
I don't think I have a reason to hide anything.    There is no
reason to believe that people who have this fantasy are not
sane.   Do a Google search for the words: "female,"
"spit" "long pig" "barbeque."  You will see how many people
have this fantasy. 
 
If I were to carry it out, no female would die in the process,
and no female would be left with a single permanent mark. 
I would have the female lay on my bed with a short piece of
broom stick exiting her mouth, and the round end of a
long lubricated broomstick slowly and carefully inserted
below into her. I would pour mineral oil over her body.  Then
rub it all over with my hand.  Thenn I would tenderize her
meat by lightly tapping a wooden meat tenderizer all over
her body.  Then I would slowly heat the mineral oil all over
her body with a blow dryer.  When one side is "cooked," 
she would turn over, and let me "cook" the other side.  I
supply enough heat till the oil is erotically hot all over her
body but not painful.  I might use an aromatic oil. Then
when she is well-cooked,   I would wipe the mineral oil
off, and cover her body with chocolate syrup, and "eat"
her--lick and nibble the chocolate off her body.  (When I
first wrote this, I misspelled "nibble"as "nipple," Freudian
slip, I suppose.)
 
When it comes to females, I am one of the most harmless
humans alive.  I can't imagine any female being afraid of me.
No female who knew me to any degree would have the
slightest fear of me.  I can't understand why people can't
differentiate between fantasy and reality. 
 
I don't think you can possibly understand how gentle, kind,
and considerate a guy I am.  I couldn't do anything to a
female that is not consensual.  And even with permission,
I would never do anything that would cause any permanent
damage to any female's skin or body, or cause any emotional
distress.
 
Females are safer with me than they were when the loving
parents took care of them. I've lost many opportunities
to satisfy my sexual desire, because I put the welfare of
some female ahead of my own.

Finally, I am not controlled by my libido.  I live my life to
help others.  That is my number one priority in life.  It is
my pleasure, and purpose in life to make others happy.
 
With love, lashes, and endless hugs,
Michael
 



Morpheus07 -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 6:33:05 PM)

To me, your profile seems quite ridiculous, every Dom thinks He is different than every other, but basically we are more similar than different if we are truly Dominant. We may have different fantasies or fetishes, but it all boils down to the fact that Dominants NEED to be in charge.

For some it is merely in the bedroom, for some in all aspects of life.

Maybe you are simply a fetishist, and not a Dominant at all.




YokuniCat -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 6:34:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Hi JessieMe,
 
> Ok..let me see.. if someone told me these are my extreme
> fantasies when I have not gotten far enough into a relationship
> to really understand the context of them.. yeah.... I would run
> screaming as well...

Right, but I don't understand why?  It is a common fantasy. 
A lot of females share my fantasy. I mean they fantasize 
having it happen to them.  It is just a fantasy. No one really 
wants to do it, or really wants to have it done to them in real
life.  In the fantasy, there is no blood, and the pain is erotic,
not like it would really be in real life.
 
> Are you REALLY telling people these things early on??
 
Yes.
 
> If your goal is to keep them hanging around long enough
> to think you are sane.. WHY?

Because I am 100% open.  I hide nothing from other people.
I don't think I have a reason to hide anything.    There is no
reason to believe that people who have this fantasy are not
sane.   Do a Google search for the words: "female,"
"spit" "long pig" "barbeque."  You will see how many people
have this fantasy.  
 


There is a thing as too much, and explaining everything on the first conversation is too much, it's great you are open with your feelings, that you respect women and that you wish to share, but I have to say savour getting to know them, enjoy the mental foreplay of understanding who they are as well.

And for god's sake slow down, it doesn't matter if they like what you like if you get so involved so quickly, it scares people a little and it's not about you hiding information, it's about slowly getting to know someone (you and them).



WhipTheHip -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 6:39:40 PM)

Hi there,
 > but it all boils down to the fact that Dominants NEED to be in charge.

> Maybe you are simply a fetishist, and not a Dominant at all.

I need to be in charge, but I am very accomadating.  I don't know if that
makes any sense.  I need to call the final shot.  I need to be captain.
But I value a strong first mate, and cherish input and criticism.
 
Best regards,
Michael



WhipTheHip -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 6:48:43 PM)

Greetings,
 
By the way, I received message.  Someone here gave me the name of
one of the artists--Dolcett.  He has quite a following.   The person who
sent me the message said she loves this fantasy, too.  She, also,
referred me to www.ravnet.net, the Ravishment Network website,
which she belongs to.   She wrote: "consensual nonconsensuality"
isn't that weird after all.   When I wrote that on alt.torture years
ago, John Warren said I was dangerous and crazy.
 
With love, lashes and endless hugs,
Michael



Morpheus07 -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 6:51:53 PM)

You might want to spend some time reading other Dom mens profiles, and do some study on Dominance/submission. The internet has much information about what being/living as a Dominant looks like.

To me, in your long replies, you come across as somewhat manic, which is usually not attractive to those you may pursue... But, I'm a dude and a Dom, so...

quote:

Hi there,
> but it all boils down to the fact that Dominants NEED to be in charge.

> Maybe you are simply a fetishist, and not a Dominant at all.

I need to be in charge, but I am very accomadating. I don't know if that
makes any sense. I need to call the final shot. I need to be captain.
But I value a strong first mate, and cherish input and criticism.

Best regards,
Michael




WhipTheHip -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 7:27:37 PM)

Hi there,
 
I just visited www.ravnet.net, and discovered it is a brand new website. 
So maybe, "ravishment" aka "rape" is a weird fantasy after all.
 
I pretty much know what D/s entails.  What I would like is a partner
interested in D/s light, the same taste, and just as filling for some
female who doesn't seek heavy domination.  
 
I am into light domination, and medium-strength, super imaginative
bdsm.
 
Best regards,
Michael



LotusSong -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 8:32:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Hi there,

     Thanks for the words of encouragement.  I never heard of a DaddyDom.   What is it?   I would rather
have a partner that acts like a grown women, than a little girl, though I'm flexible.   I part of the thing is I
am more into bdsm, into into D/s.   Everytime, I tell a sub, I'm not a superdom dom type, they tell me that
they need the super dom type.  After a while, it gets pretty discouraging.   I am an erotic, sexual sadist.  
Everytime I've ssid this to a sub, they say "How aweful" and run in the opposite direction.  I feel a lot
of guilt about sexual desires and my sexual fantasies.  I could never really hurt someone for four reasons:
1. It is against the law, 2. Anything actually physically damaging is a major turn-off.  3. Most importantly,
I could never do anything that causes anyone emotional pain, and 4. It would violate my moral code
which I have dedicated my life to following.  Despite this, every time I have ever told a sub I was
a sexual sadist, they have invariably said, "How awful" and run in the opposite direction.  Finally,
I have a "rape fantasy."   Now, I know rape is a horrible crime, and may women are destroyed by it
and suffer lifelong depression from it.  Still, having the fantasy is not exactly the same as being a
rapist.  Yet, every time I have said this, the sub becomes indignant, and tells me how awful I am.
They say rape is all about power, and not about sex.   That might be true, but it turns me on
thinking about the power, such criminals have over their victims.  I crave having that kind of
power.    On the other hand, I am not a violent person.  In fact, I am pretty much incapable
of violence.  I would have thought, that this, too, was an asset, but find a lot of females a
ttracted to really violent. abusive guys.  I managed a hotel, and saw this over and over again.

 I don't know. I remain unconvinced there is a place for me in the bdsm world, even though
I have been obsessed with it from before I even knew it existed outside my fantasy.

With love, lashes, and endless hugs,
Michael


Then don't tell them (the sub)  Show Them. Then let THEM decide what you are to them.

We just had a thread on here all about LABLES. I'm amazed that people would so readly suggest you put yourself into a box.  SHAME on THEM!  :) (and you know who you are!~) LOL



JessieMe -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 8:38:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

I would have the female lay on my bed with a short piece of
broom stick exiting her mouth, and the round end of a
long lubricated broomstick slowly and carefully inserted
below into her. I would pour mineral oil over her body.  Then
rub it all over with my hand.  Thenn I would tenderize her
meat by lightly tapping a wooden meat tenderizer all over
her body.  Then I would slowly heat the mineral oil all over
her body with a blow dryer.  When one side is "cooked," 
she would turn over, and let me "cook" the other side.  I
supply enough heat till the oil is erotically hot all over her
body but not painful.  I might use an aromatic oil. Then
when she is well-cooked,   I would wipe the mineral oil
off, and cover her body with chocolate syrup, and "eat"
her--lick and nibble the chocolate off her body.  (When I
first wrote this, I misspelled "nibble"as "nipple," Freudian
slip, I suppose.)
 


Ok.. so we are once again back to.. is THIS what you are telling them.. because now I am having the same fantasy..LOL...

Michael.. you have some very interesting "play" interests.. are you deliberately using terms to scare people off?? If so.. again.. I ask why??

Try thinking about what would "turn on" a potential play partner instead of "turning off" a potential and use it to your advantage. Quit trying to scare them and then complaining that they are running scared. You might get better results..

PS> I hope you dont mind but I am keeping your little fantasy on file in case I ever get the chance to have someone do this to me.. <grins>



WhipTheHip -> Catch 22 (8/1/2006 8:46:34 PM)

Hi LotusSong,
 
    Here is the problem.  It would be great if subs would give you the chance
to show them who are.  But you don't get a sub, unless they like your
description of yourself well enough to give you a try.
 
Best regards,
Michael



WhipTheHip -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 8:54:11 PM)

Hi JessieMe
 
>  Michael.. you have some very interesting "play" interests..
> are you deliberately using terms to scare people off??
> If so.. again.. I ask why??
 
I guess it is natural to assume other people see things the
same way we do.  When I describe my fantasy, I figure it
produces the same picture in their mind as it does in mine.
I don't say things to intentionally scare females off,  I am
totally open when I suppose I should be more guarded.
 
With love, lashes and endless hugs,
Michael



Homestead -> RE: Have I scared you away yet? (8/1/2006 9:05:26 PM)

You need to straighten your head out, and come across as consistent and mentally stable. Start with your writing, the ability to express onself coherently scores big points. As it is, it looks like a 9 year old is babbling away here.

No sub will come within a country mile, until you quit coming across as a headcase. Or a little boy with fantasies.

Especially as a total newbie.



WhipTheHip -> A typical play session with me. (8/1/2006 9:28:42 PM)

I have eyehooks fastened to the concrete ceiling over my bathtub.  I tie my
naked sub standing in the bathtub with her wrists tied together.  The rope
around her writs goes through an eyehook in the ceiling, and I pull the
rope tight till she has to stand on her tiptoes.  The eyehook
supports two tons.  I turn the shower on, wet her down, and wash her
body all over with soap.  I shampoo her hair and rinse all the soap
off her.   I tell her if she gets tired of standing on her tip toes
she can wrap her legs around me.  She wraps her legs around
around me, and is now hanging from the ceiling by her arms. I
fuck her with her legs wrapped around me.by bouncing her ass
off the back wall of the tub.  I point the shower at her and let
just the cold water spray on different parts of her body.  The
cold water turns her nipples hard.  I douche her and use a
detachable water massager to wash her out.  I spray hot
water on different parts of her body. I adjust the water
temperture just hot enough to turn her skin red, but no
where near hot enough to burn her.  When I've had enough
of this I release the rope and she limply sits in the tub.
I have her lay down in the tub, and put a pillow behind
her head.  I tie rope around her ankles and tie the ends
to eyehooks in the cieling. They hold her legs apart to
form a vertical V.   I insert a vibrator into her opening,
and I use the water massager on the clit and surrounding
area.  I masturbate her with the water massager till she
cums.  If she doesn't cum, I tell her I will torture her
till she does so she better give me instructions
on how to move the messager so she does cum.
I place clothes pins on her nipples and tell her
I won't take them off till she orgasms.  I connect line
to the clothes pins on her nipples and draw that
line through eyehooks in the ceiling and pull on
the line till her breasts are being pulled up toward
the ceiling by the clothespins on her nipples.
All this time a waterproof vibrater is inside her.
I move it in and out while masturbating her with
the shower massager.  When she orgams, I
release the clothes pins from her nipples but
driver her crazy by directing a strong stream
of pulsing water at her now super-sensitive clit.

I untie her legs and carry her from the bathtub
to the bed.  I tie her ankles together, and her
knees apart.  I tie her hands apart.  I then tell
her she must orgasm again or suffer the
consequences.  I flog her.  I put clothes
pins on her nipples again, and bind her
breasts or put clamps on her breasts.  I
fuck her with a vibrator while I suck on
her clit and go down on her.   I tell her
she will produce one more orgasm for me
or the pain will continue.  With instructions
from her, I force her to produce anther
orgasm. 

Other tortures I use.  I make a mold of
a dildo, then make a dildo out of ice.
I use electric play.  Violet wants.
And other electical devices. 

This is just one scenerio out of
thousands.

Best regards,
Michael


not hot enough to burn. 



Noah -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 10:36:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BenignPlague

I don't recall where I heard the expression, but it was something like "people want to get to know the whole you, but they don't want to do it all at once".  Go at your own pace, if you're looking for someone who can handle that all at once, don't feel pressured to lean to one side or another just to increase the hits on your profile.


Okay.

This guy, I don't know him; he has a fucked up nickname and try as I might I can't account for that facial hair, never mind that lovely representation of his date with the bias cut gown and the face into which all proximate matter and energy tumble only to appear again emanating from a wormhole on the back of a St Andrew's cross somewhere west of Topeka.

But never mind all that. Re-read his post, OP. He is a Smart Man.



This is kind of an interesting thread, isn't it? We may feel sometimes that things just get endlessly re-hashed on these boards but then here comes the OP all mealy-mouthed and almost whining, repeatedly flaunting the rule that if you can't dom a keyboard you can't dom a subbie. And we hear a bit about how goshdang hard it is to get a subbie with all the paperwork and the catch 22 and everything.

So he's workin' the vulnerable thing and he's workin' the humble thing, which he seems to have some experience with so it must work for him, which is good.

And the good citizens here mostly cut him some slack and try to put him on the right road---although Morpheus does slip into TwueDomSpeak at one point but that kind of shit just seems like it's almost bound to happen so what the hell. And then pretty soon the OP starts laying on the smut.

A sly dog he is too, right? With his "if only the subbies could hear my fantasy about {insert smut here} well then maybe they'd see that I'm not such a bad sort and they'd all get naked and writhe for me, but I can't think of any ways to get to tell them my ideas about {insert more smut here} so I don't know what in the goshdang world to do. Any ideas?"

Talk about smooth.

And pretty soon few charter members of the Certain Sort of Woman Club queue up to get all googly-eyed and damp for Mr. FreshMeat with the puppydog approach and the 2000lb. capacity hooks in his bathroom ceiling.

So anyway yeah ... this is good. This is as the kids say what it is all in reference to. Nothing to rock your world but an interesting thread.

Welcome to the monkey house, OP.





nefertari -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 10:51:58 PM)

I started out cutting him some slack, but then found the whole thing to just be exhausting.  He's too much work.



Noah -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 11:08:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

We just had a thread on here all about LABLES. I'm amazed that people would so readly suggest you put yourself into a box.  SHAME on THEM!  :) (and you know who you are!~) LOL


So it's still okay to put someone in a box, right? As long as it isn't yourself and as long as you don't actually label the box?

Cause otherwise I'm beginning to wonder if there is, you know, a place for me here in this crazy place called BDSM.

(snnff snnff)

Anybody want to hear about my thing I want to do to subbies with my Lionel model train transformer, pine sap and a barbershop quartet?





JessieMe -> RE: A place for a mildly dom, top? (8/1/2006 11:35:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

Anybody want to hear about my thing I want to do to subbies with my Lionel model train transformer, pine sap and a barbershop quartet?




LMAO.. Noah you have truly earned the right to call yourself perverted..<grins>



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