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untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 4:45:00 AM   
gardenbluebird


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Status: offline 		Whenever Master puts me in bondage i always try to untie the knots.  I never manage to actually get out of bondage, but i love to try.  Often He sets me up with knots that He knows i can reach, but that won't do a darn thing to actually get me loose.  He will watch with amusement and playfully spank me for trying to get out.  i would probably be a little disappointed if i actually did manage to get out.

So my question is - are you "good" in bondage, or is trying to escape part of the fun?
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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 4:53:23 AM   
nogardthe4


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Status: offline 		Gee, now where is the submission in that?
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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 5:16:29 AM   
SweetSerendipity


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Status: offline 		Respectfully, I would suspect the submission is in allowing oneself to be tied up. It must cause pleasure to her Dom to see her struggle without release.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 6:10:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bluebell ... tied a man up once, he was known for his ability to get out of bondage, any bondage, the challenge to get out, the harder the struggle, the better the experience...for him it appeared to be a physical and psychological challenge ...probably not quite why you enjoy it, but maybe... though I was mean, and let a loose rope hang loose near a knot .. he was not happy and said I didn't play fair ... which I can understand... but I thought it was ingeneuis and enjoyed watching his struggle

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 6:38:56 AM   
gardenbluebird


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Status: offline 		Interesting.  Based on the first couple of responses it seems that this must not be too common.  A couple of things to keep in mind, because i would rather this not digress into a "not submissive enough" thread - Yes, i am submissive and i consider myself a slave to my Master.  This is an agreed upon dynamic from day one with U/us.  i told him that i would challenge him and i do that on a regular basis, but certainly not all the time.  Always with a playful attitude, not one that actually doesn't want to submit.  i enjoy bending to his will and licking his boots as much as any sub or slave enjoys these things.

We are both trained as engineers and project managers.  Therefore we are both problem solvers.  He likes to think of ways to challenge me, and He enjoys watching my mind work as i try to work the problem.  i enjoy the sensations of being bound and will very often simply feel the sensation and let myself slip into subspace.  On the other hand the problem solver in me very often can't resist the urge to those darn knots, and the slave part of me truly enjoys that the knots are good enough to keep me well subdued.

i am curious if others enjoy this type of play, and if so why?

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 6:44:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just like being an ass.  I LOVE beingtied up tight, but half the fun is to try to get out, even though it's not possible.

Now, sometimes, I just get clipped to a bar, which would be very easy to escape from.  There, I do not try, because there's no challenge.  It's not about getting out, it's about trying and failing. 

I really just do it for shits and giggles, and if I know it pisses my partner off, I behave myself.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 7:15:30 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		Well sometimes if Master allowes it i struggle againest him when he ties me up.  Of course i am not going to win and i will end up being tied anyway.  I know Master is much stronger then me and it just feels so good when he overpowers me and ties me up.  Once i am tied i don't try to escape.  Not that i could anyway.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 10:08:52 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: gardenbluebird
So my question is - are you "good" in bondage, or is trying to escape part of the fun?

I'm a natural escape artist.  This is why I tend to prefer cages and boxes and locks and chains versus rope when simply being confined as it's a lot harder to twist a lock than it is a rope.

However, I do always make sure to ask the top BEFORE the scene if it's ok for me to struggle.  If they want to go to a particular headspace, struggling might go against that.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 10:22:17 AM   
raiken


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Status: offline 		Master and i enjoy this type of play also, it is a great stress buster and lots of fun to match wits and challenge each other.   Although i have yet to escape his bondage,  i have recently found a place where no matter what he does, once i am there, he can't catch me unless i let him! LOL! Ahem..or i am ordered to let him...grinz
 
This has nothing to do with it being a matter or measure of submission, but rather two people PLAYING freely together and keeping it real and having fun!  For me, it should always be about fun and fulfullment and not some burdensome mold to measure up to , at least from my perspective.  As long as the respect and the mutual understanding exists, the rest is up to the folks involved.  Enjoy and have fun, for me, that is what i want my life to be about, i have learned not to take it all so seriously, seen too many have strokes and heart attacks who did!
 
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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 10:54:12 AM   
RavenMuse


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quote:

ORIGINAL: nogardthe4
Gee, now where is the submission in that?


Not going to hijack the thread, but if you can't see it there, best stay well clear of resistance play!

OP: It wouldn't work for some folks, it does for others. Most of the time if I don't want my girls to move. I will put them in position and tell them to hold that position. If I am going to bind them, then wether I allow them to struggle or not, they ain't getting out of it, else what would have been the point of it in the first place and sure, it can be amusing to see them try


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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 11:06:10 AM   
TNstepsout


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Status: offline 		As long as he's pleased with the interaction it seems like a fun way to play. Now if there are times when he wants you to be still and stay bound and you struggle and alter the scene or play, that would not be good.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 11:15:12 AM   
Homestead


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Status: offline 		I do shibari. What's really amusing, is to use one continuous 100 foot rope to do a hog tie with.

Takes a while to pull that much rope, but the knots are in sequence. One has to be untied to get to the next, like a chain. Restraining the elbows so that the arms cannot be bent, is a crucial part of this. Allows no wiggle factor to slip the wrists free.  Then you do a tie fairly loose to the ankles, to avoid shoulder strain. And the end of the rope from the feet is tied off to an overhead ring bolt.  So it's a bit difficult to reach THAT knot, to begin loosening all the others.

Very funny to watch the drama unfold after that, at least to me.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 11:51:56 AM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		In my opinion it has to do with respect.  If you respect your dominant you won't even try.  The right dominant for you will be able to have that sort of respect over you and he or she won't even need any bonds at all to keep you still.

However, if mutually agree'd upon.  The respect is not broken.  You are merely following orders are you not?

Yet there are much more creative ways to challenge a person rather than play.



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RE: untieing the knots - 8/1/2006 12:17:39 PM   
Kashan


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Status: offline 		I've only been tied once that I couldn't get out of. I tried, and found I couldn't and quit trying so I was good afterward. Kinda the same for the bad ties though. If I know I can get out, I will still hold myslef in position just to be good. But I am less impressed with the one who tied me. And usually won't play with them again.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/2/2006 8:23:30 PM   
TemptingNviceSub


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Status: offline 		I have heard it be told that many Dominants enjoy watching the struggle to get out of the bonds they placed.Some Dominants also find it to be quite erotic to see their submissive twisting and turning seeing their frustrations.Of course not all Dominants appreciate such, but I am sure those who do not will make it perfectly clear so IMO different strokes....be well...Tempting

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/2/2006 8:25:46 PM   
TemptingNviceSub


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Status: offline 		Forgot to add..was once placed in handcuffs..he enjoyed watching my struggle..however he was also quite shocked that I did manage to squeeze my hands in such a way as to actually get a cuff off..Of course once that discovery was made it was set to rights promptly and cuffs were tightened....Tempting

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/2/2006 8:28:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		If it is part of your dynamic...who cares what we think?  Seems like the two of you enjoy it.  My Dom and I would enjoy that at times, and at other times not ... just depends.   

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/3/2006 3:09:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't want a Dom to tie me up if I could get out of them.  I may wiggle and squirm, but I don't seriously try to escape.

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/3/2006 3:23:29 PM   
OwnedbyW


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Status: offline 		I would never consider trying to escape my Masters ropes...I may wriggle and squirm during play...but could never seriously remove them...anyway they are comforting to me...I have even slept in them..

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RE: untieing the knots - 8/4/2006 7:03:17 PM   
afeathr


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Status: offline 		I absolutely *love* bondage play.  The more intricate the better. Sir is *very* good with coming up with new ways of binding me.  Some are rather interesting!  I get all hot and bothered just thinking about being helpless.  There wouldn't be much fun, for me, to be able to escape, and quite honestly, I don't know that I ever *could*.  <huge smile>

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