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Devilslilsister -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 11:16:48 AM)
Forever ^ ^ i am forever going to be ME i am forever going to be Kelly i am forever going to ROCK (yes i so rock and nos u cant be me)

LaTigresse -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 1:29:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy I know i may be the odd man out but i do believe in forever, maybe because i seem to have a sixth sense about a person's rightness for me. My Master long since in the wind, i knew was forever from day one, we talked on the phone, he picked me up at work the next day i went home with him to his apartment, we packed his shit and he moved in with me, the next day on Christmas Eve i was tattooed with his "property of" 18 perfect years later he left me to ride his chopper with brothers who passed before him on that highway in the sky. If he had not we would still be together. I am still heart broken that he is gone and i miss him daily, but his passing was meant to be so i could be led to my next "forever", where i am now with Scooter and Jewel. We talked and emailed for a few weeks, i flew down to be here, i slept with Scooter within an hour of my arrival, and with Jewel within a month of it, i was collared two weeks later though the decision to offer a collar i am sure was made sooner than that, my decision to accept a collar was made the instant i saw them at the airport, i was tattooed about a month or so after that. Is this forever? I would not have accepted the collar or tattoo if i was not sure it was. Can i be positive, many will say i cannot but as one who had a forever i can say i am. To those who will nay say to me i ask can you even be sure the sun will rise tomorrow; as sure as they are of that is how sure i am of forever. But then again i believe in wood sprites, the gods and goddess, magic, the inherent goodness of mankind, the wisdom that the ancient trees possess, that love is real,and that that beauty and truth abound in this world. 2X, you made me get all teary eyed ya goober!! Thank you.

Bearlee -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 1:57:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy But then again i believe in wood sprites, the gods and goddess, magic, the inherent goodness of mankind, the wisdom that the ancient trees possess, that love is real, and that beauty and truth abound in this world. twice... I think you're just awesome! I may have to put that as my signature line! Well said... Thank you, kiddo.

windchymes -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 2:39:44 PM)
I NEVER say things like "That would never happen because....." It's like waving a flag with a bulls-eye on it in front of fate.

hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 4:00:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy But then again i believe in wood sprites, the gods and goddess, magic, the inherent goodness of mankind, the wisdom that the ancient trees possess, that love is real,and that that beauty and truth abound in this world. Perhaps that's why comments such as the one that sparked me to write the OP strike me the way they do, Twice. I quit believing in the inherant goodness of humanity, that love is real, or that beauty and truth abound in the world a long time ago. I have come to see all of it as very transitory, and 'forever' as a pretty illusion that we give ourselves. (And much like windchymes said - saying "x could Never happen..." seems to simply spur the fates into arranging things so that x HAS to happen.)

Homestead -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 4:25:32 PM)
Forever happens a day at a time.[;)]

leakylee -> RE: Something to Think About (8/3/2006 6:33:23 PM)
Twicehappy, that was so beautiful. I got all gushy. sniffled a bit even. It was just so sweet. You are awesome. lee

obis -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 2:26:14 AM)
quote: My questions is why would you go in a relationship thinking anything else ? Isn’t that dooming the relationship to begin with? Why would a submissive/ slave devote her life to another if they didn’t think it *could* be forever ? Most women I meet, I can tell within the first few days/weeks "oh, this relationship can last 6 months" or "this can go for a few years if we work at it". But that doesn't make the relationship any less real, any less powerful, or any less fulfilling for either. It's just a recognition that -- for whatever reason -- the two of you are not on the same life paths, or at the right time in your life, to commit to 60+ years together. Acknowledging that a relationship WILL end is not the same as wanting it to end, or being happy about it ending. It's no different than life as a whole -- we all know we die at the end. What we do, and how we live in between now and then is all that matters.

PlayfulOne -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 5:29:52 AM)
fast reply I am disheartened to see so many cynics abound. Personally I would never delve into this level of commitment unless I thought the relationship was going to be long lasting. I can find kinky sex or play anytime, but devotion, trust, and love, or different matters. I would never have signed on for the relationship I am in now if I didn't think it was going to be a long term one. I can not imagine my life without her as part of it. No, I am neither young and foolish, new and naive, nor is this my first D/s relationship. I have had happy succesful D/s relationships before but there was always something missing on my part. That deep desire to truly have them as mine. I had submissives before, now I own a slave which was a big step for me. One I would never had taken if I didn't feel we had a foundation on which to build something that will last the rest of my days. This is the end of the road for me, if by some twist of fate we can not make this work I am simply done. We are perfect for one another and she is the jewel I have been waiting for all these years, if we can not make this work then I will never be able to make a D/s relationship work with anyone. Call me what you will, foolish, hopeless, unrealistic it matters not. The on ly thing that matters to me is she is mine and I know that I have her absoulte trust, devotion, and love. K

twicehappy -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 5:42:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse 2X, you made me get all teary eyed ya goober!! Thank you. Awww....Thank you, but please do not cry or i will to. He was one in a billion, hard core, old style,the retired presdent of a chapter of the Hells Angels and he was gentle, loving, sweet, a great dad, he used to sneak out every Thanksgiving morning telling me he wanted a newspaper so he could go buy flowers for the dinner table, silly man, like i forgot every year. Lucky me i found the other two left in that billion....... Actually i am quite sure Loran would have loved Scooter and Jewel so when i get too sad i try to think of ways to enjoy a....um...."ride" with all three of them at once, when we all meet up to make some rolling thunder heavenly style. Bad me. quote: ORIGINAL: Bearlee twice... I think you're just awesome! I may have to put that as my signature line! Well said... Thank you, kiddo Thank you and feel free to use that line if you wish.

popeye1250 -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 6:11:54 AM)
All we have is today anyway. But, if two people really like each other and that eventually turns into love so be it. In my humble opinion love takes time. But if two people love each other they'd surely want to be together for the rest of their lives, wouldn't they? I think this lifestyle would bring two people closer together and be more intimate than a vanilla relationship. If a sub/slave is "giving herself to you" and you "take her" that is a pretty powerfull thing that I would want to keep.

twicehappy -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 6:18:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy But then again i believe in wood sprites, the gods and goddess, magic, the inherent goodness of mankind, the wisdom that the ancient trees possess, that love is real,and that that beauty and truth abound in this world. Perhaps that's why comments such as the one that sparked me to write the OP strike me the way they do, Twice. I quit believing in the inherant goodness of humanity, that love is real, or that beauty and truth abound in the world a long time ago. I have come to see all of it as very transitory, and 'forever' as a pretty illusion that we give ourselves. Perhaps you need to release the hurt from your soul. Do not think i have not ever felt bitter or angry, losing my Lord hurt me more than any could know, i lost my own will to live for awhile. I have known rape, child abuse and molestation; i gave up a child born of such never to be seen again, i was eleven years old at the time. I have known murder; my brother was murdered before his 30th birthday for two dollars and sixty cents. I have known intimate death, my oldest grandson died of crib death at only three months. I have known jealousy, betrayal and anger, the only woman i ever loved before Jewel did those things to me abandoning her two children in the process. But i have also felt the majesty and life wisdom of a forest, the sparkle of the sun on the water, the warmth of a granny's quilt, the smell of wood smoke in the mountain air, the joy of a bumble bee's flight, the exhilaration of winning a race, the closeness of brotherhood. I've had Sonny Barger buy me ice-cream and give me advice. I have known the sweet scent of a woman on me in the morning and tasted the sweat of a man mixed with motor oil on a hot afternoon. I have loved many, men and women alike and been allowed to explore the depths of their minds, the wonder of their hearts. I have felt the sweetness of babes at my breast and witnessed the birth of my grandchildren into this world in person. I have experienced the miracle of the gods sending me not one but two people to love me when i thought my world was dead, my heart broken for eternity. I have rode and felt the wind on my face, the throbbing thunder between my legs. My advice to you, go out with a two year old child, get down on their level, and look out through their eyes. Take a walk in the woods and see if you can grasp how amazing it is that life abounds on this planet. Could you even begin to make a tree? It seems to me that life has robbed you of the ability to experience wonder. Look around you, for every evil doer you meet go look for someone who does good. You will not have to look far, try your local soup kitchen where folks give freely of their time to others. Go to a SPCA and see how many spend their lives in the hope of saving one abandoned animal. Sit down and just breathe then ask yourself; how and why does this work? If you close yourself off from the possibilities then you will never really have been alive. A poster said to me on another thread and it holds true here: "I could have skipped the pain but then i would have missed the dance."

babysburnin -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 4:05:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne I am disheartened to see so many cynics abound. Personally I would never delve into this level of commitment unless I thought the relationship was going to be long lasting. Being practical does not equal being a cynic. I would not continue a relationship I know was doomed.

PlayfulOne -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 4:19:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: babysburnin quote: ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne I am disheartened to see so many cynics abound. Personally I would never delve into this level of commitment unless I thought the relationship was going to be long lasting. Being practical does not equal being a cynic. I would not continue a relationship I know was doomed. As they once said, "What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?" What does not continuing a doomed relationship have to do with the cynics here who are asking how one could declare their relationship was meant to last? If one goes into a relationship waiting for impending doom, they shall find it. K

DesertRat -> RE: Something to Think About (8/4/2006 4:51:50 PM)
I can be positive and optimistic...hoping for that 'forever' thing, even, and still have both eyes open and both feet firmly on the ground. I want a love that lasts forever. It doesn't happen just because I want it, though; it takes work. Bob

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Something to Think About (8/5/2006 6:35:35 AM)
I think we all like to think this is the one and it could be forever, but forever sometimes isnt long. Reality sets in eventually.

LaTigresse -> RE: Something to Think About (8/5/2006 11:48:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy Perhaps you need to release the hurt from your soul. Do not think i have not ever felt bitter or angry, losing my Lord hurt me more than any could know, i lost my own will to live for awhile. I have known rape, child abuse and molestation; i gave up a child born of such never to be seen again, i was eleven years old at the time. I have known murder; my brother was murdered before his 30th birthday for two dollars and sixty cents. I have known intimate death, my oldest grandson died of crib death at only three months. I have known jealousy, betrayal and anger, the only woman i ever loved before Jewel did those things to me abandoning her two children in the process. But i have also felt the majesty and life wisdom of a forest, the sparkle of the sun on the water, the warmth of a granny's quilt, the smell of wood smoke in the mountain air, the joy of a bumble bee's flight, the exhilaration of winning a race, the closeness of brotherhood. I've had Sonny Barger buy me ice-cream and give me advice. I have known the sweet scent of a woman on me in the morning and tasted the sweat of a man mixed with motor oil on a hot afternoon. I have loved many, men and women alike and been allowed to explore the depths of their minds, the wonder of their hearts. I have felt the sweetness of babes at my breast and witnessed the birth of my grandchildren into this world in person. I have experienced the miracle of the gods sending me not one but two people to love me when i thought my world was dead, my heart broken for eternity. I have rode and felt the wind on my face, the throbbing thunder between my legs. My advice to you, go out with a two year old child, get down on their level, and look out through their eyes. Take a walk in the woods and see if you can grasp how amazing it is that life abounds on this planet. Could you even begin to make a tree? It seems to me that life has robbed you of the ability to experience wonder. Look around you, for every evil doer you meet go look for someone who does good. You will not have to look far, try your local soup kitchen where folks give freely of their time to others. Go to a SPCA and see how many spend their lives in the hope of saving one abandoned animal. Sit down and just breathe then ask yourself; how and why does this work? If you close yourself off from the possibilities then you will never really have been alive. A poster said to me on another thread and it holds true here: "I could have skipped the pain but then i would have missed the dance." Okay, so now twice in one thread?!?!?!? It's all good though because it is a good kind of sappy almost tears, knowing there are others in this world that just......"get it".....and feel like this. edited cuz I just realized I cannot count.........sheesh

Misstoyou -> RE: Something to Think About (8/5/2006 12:00:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy I've had Sonny Barger buy me ice-cream and give me advice. I shared a home with a woman who met the other side of Sonny Barger, and was hiding out. But that's neither here nor there. Even though personally, I'm a fatalist, and drive my puppy crazy because I won't/can't promise him forever, it was a wonderful post to read.

doubleLeo -> RE: Something to Think About (8/5/2006 3:59:13 PM)
"Together forever" just means that the two are looking for a commited relationship, and want to try it out together.. It just sounds really superficial when you consider the dynamics and incredicble amount of involvement it can take between two peoples. Its almost like there is a presumption that only upswings will exist between the two, when that just is not possible due to the law of duality. However, I think there can be a positive place of connection that can coexist within any given moment in that relation. I just call that maturity :-) dL

Noah -> RE: Something to Think About (8/5/2006 4:17:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach Do we not all generally go into a relationship thinking "This is the one! This will last until one of us dies of old age. It's gonna be Forever" ? No I don't go into a relationship thinking anything like that. Neither should you. Every hour you spend lost in the future is an hour you're absent from your life and the relationship as it happens to be now. A new relationship is a trip on uncharted waters. I go into it thinking something more along the lines of: "Let's see what happens and enjoy the trip." Clinging to an imaginary future seems like one of the few things sillier than clinging to the actual past. As time goes by, if a relationship deepens, my orientation to it evolves. But to start out reciting: "happily ever after" ... ... dasfuktup.

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