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kisshou -> RE: Bird Flu (8/4/2006 12:54:02 PM)

People worried about Y2K so now looking back was it too much hype or did all the hype force people to make changes to software thus preventing a catastrophe?

Worry by itself is always useless taking an open eyed look at the dangers present in the world today and having a basic survival plan is smart.



Estring -> RE: Bird Flu (8/4/2006 12:59:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kisshou

People worried about Y2K so now looking back was it too much hype or did all the hype force people to make changes to software thus preventing a catastrophe?

Worry by itself is always useless taking an open eyed look at the dangers present in the world today and having a basic survival plan is smart.


I forgot about that example. I don't think there was any real danger there. Many were predicting a catastrophe. I did nothing to prepare for it and came through just fine. It's just funny how the media will run with something and contribute to the hysteria.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Bird Flu (8/5/2006 9:47:37 PM)

The 20-20 hindsight in this thread is just amazing.  How about the hole in the ozone layer--was that all just hype too, or did the issue cause a major global change in the use of CFC's?

It was the latter, children.



Kedikat -> RE: Bird Flu (8/5/2006 9:54:00 PM)

134 people in just 4 years!!!!!

AGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Has heart attack digging safe haven shelter.........

Should have watched what I ate......

Thank god I survived the ....well whatever it was flu sort of thing that caused a fuss in Toronto......oh yeah SARS. It would have been more memorable with a higher death toll or animal link.

Panda flu!!! Now that would really make some headlines. Cute Kitten Flu. CNN is just waiting for it.



MistressLorelei -> RE: Bird Flu (8/5/2006 10:12:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

It's fairly new to the virus/germ world and the Meida is able to report it to gain ratings. In the medical supply industry, sales and request have gone up for bio mask.

I've noticed in adverstisment that bug spray commericals are now saying "Our spray will kill misquitos that may carry the West Nile Virurs"

Everyone in advertisment and sales like to promote the popularity off all the new diseases so they can Sale Sale SALE as much crap as possible. Then you have the entertainment industry making movies and shows off every little scare. 


Doesn't anyone realize that birds and other animals have been the reason behind other pandemic level viruses which have killed millions in the past?

In 1918, before the media hype, the Spanish flu was an aviation flu virus which killed well over 20  million people worldwide.  The 1918 strain is thought to be similar to the H5N1 virus we are looking at currently.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060117084226.htm

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11047805/

I hope it will end up being all hype... but 1918 is proof that what we are looking at now could be a lot more than silly paranoia.



Kedikat -> RE: Bird Flu (8/5/2006 11:55:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

It's fairly new to the virus/germ world and the Meida is able to report it to gain ratings. In the medical supply industry, sales and request have gone up for bio mask.

I've noticed in adverstisment that bug spray commericals are now saying "Our spray will kill misquitos that may carry the West Nile Virurs"

Everyone in advertisment and sales like to promote the popularity off all the new diseases so they can Sale Sale SALE as much crap as possible. Then you have the entertainment industry making movies and shows off every little scare. 


Doesn't anyone realize that birds and other animals have been the reason behind other pandemic level viruses which have killed millions in the past?

In 1918, before the media hype, the Spanish flu was an aviation flu virus which killed well over 20  million people worldwide.  The 1918 strain is thought to be similar to the H5N1 virus we are looking at currently.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060117084226.htm

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11047805/

I hope it will end up being all hype... but 1918 is proof that what we are looking at now could be a lot more than silly paranoia.


You are right and wrong. Viruses, bacteria etc don't give a damn where they breed and strengthen in. Animals? Human beings are animals. We breed things in us, animals breed there things, they can cross over various species links. It's shhhhh Evolution.  A fantasy for many, but a disease for the faithful or not. The most common transition point is areas where people live in close proximity to livestock. But it can happen anywhere at anytime. We have intensive security at biohazrd labs for fragile viruses etc. But mother nature is a big wide open harsh reality lab for the real thing. No airtight doors.
As human beings develop intelectual abilities ( big brains barely squeezing through birth canals ) nature keeps breeding things to challenge our big brains and medicines/machines.
There are things cooking out there in wild hard nature that will come up against our brains. It is the evolutionary test. Brains and technology versus the almost infinite and patient lab of nature. Place your bets. Are we the top dog?



Estring -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 12:02:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The 20-20 hindsight in this thread is just amazing.  How about the hole in the ozone layer--was that all just hype too, or did the issue cause a major global change in the use of CFC's?

It was the latter, children.


And there was no argument that the hole existed. And still exists by the way. And calling yourself LordandMaster doesn't actually mean you are either one.



Kedikat -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 12:07:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Estring

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The 20-20 hindsight in this thread is just amazing.  How about the hole in the ozone layer--was that all just hype too, or did the issue cause a major global change in the use of CFC's?

It was the latter, children.


And there was no argument that the hole existed. And still exists by the way. And calling yourself LordandMaster doesn't actually mean you are either one.


Hey...hey!!! Peak oil!!! now that is a real good one. People dying by the thousands for that already. And many more to die all over.




EnglishDomNW -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 12:09:21 AM)

If someone trawls up a Nostradamus quote about Bird Flu, I swear I'll peck them to death.



happypervert -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 7:52:08 AM)

I think the fear of bird flu is justified -- the excellent documentary by Alfred Hitchcock showed us what happened the last time the birds got the flu and decided to come after us.




MasterRenegade77 -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 9:57:55 AM)

Some States are backing away from thier allotment of avian flu drugs...

http://www.mercola.com/2006/aug/5/some_states_backing_away_from_avian_flu_drugs.htm

I Myself no longer need antibiotics or flu meds as I use a Water Ozonator (Non-medical grade WOs can be purchased on e-bay check out where they're manufactured though)) which kills all manner of virii, bacteria & fungii if I were to feel the need I would immediately buy a Colloidal Silver Generator to be on the safe side...
http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csgendesc.shtml

Our biggest problem is that Ameria  has limited it's Dr.s from  using any alternative therapies for Decades... All our Dr.s have have been limited to are Drug Therapies & the old slice & dice routines...

Click This Link
http://educate-yourself.org/fc/
All you need read is the Intro & Overview, Understanding the Nature Ill Health & Disease, then natural healing... If you've any sense a Light will click on in your head... Hmmmm, say Hmmm & I wondered what Ole Dubya's motives for hyping the bird flu were???



Estring -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 12:36:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: happypervert

I think the fear of bird flu is justified -- the excellent documentary by Alfred Hitchcock showed us what happened the last time the birds got the flu and decided to come after us.




That is hilarious! Lol.



Level -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 12:49:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

   If you are feverish, have body aches and any desire at all to go shit on the windshield of your car, seek medical attention immediately.


LOL



Lordandmaster -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 9:26:19 PM)

Uhh, Estring, what does either one of those comments have to do with anything?  There's no argument that bird flu exists, either.  The argument has to do with whether you think the whole thing is just being hyped by the media, or whether it's really a serious issue that merits public attention.

How about this one--as a voter in a democratic country, you're obliged to know as much as you can about such issues, so that you can make informed decisions when you're called upon to vote.  After all, the institutions that have to be in place (and properly funded) in order to monitor the disease are federal institutions.  "Leave it to the scientists until it becomes a disease that might affect me" is hardly the attitude that leads to informed decisions at the ballot box.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The 20-20 hindsight in this thread is just amazing.  How about the hole in the ozone layer--was that all just hype too, or did the issue cause a major global change in the use of CFC's?

It was the latter, children.


And there was no argument that the hole existed. And still exists by the way. And calling yourself LordandMaster doesn't actually mean you are either one.



popeye1250 -> RE: Bird Flu (8/6/2006 10:48:49 PM)

Lord, "Global Warming?"
You cool with the Easter Bunny too?



Lordandmaster -> RE: Bird Flu (8/7/2006 7:15:28 AM)

Show me the science behind the Easter bunny.  I'll show you the science behind global warming.

What does this thread have to do with global warming, anyway?  We're talking about bird flu.



windchymes -> RE: Bird Flu (8/7/2006 1:35:04 PM)

I thought it was about media hype?  It keeps changing!!!!![&:]



MistressLorelei -> RE: Bird Flu (8/7/2006 4:36:28 PM)

I thought the thread was an excuse to justify why people shouldn't bother to take some easy precautions and be a little more aware of their health, etc... just in case.  I don't care who wants to or doesn't want to be aware of the possibility of another pandemic, like many in our history's past.  I just find it ironic that many people who scream "hysteria" about the bird flu then rant on the gun threads about how guns are necessary to "protect" themselves from the government.  At least be consistent about your hysteria.  I guess it's not as much fun to watch your health, and stock up a little on food and water, as it is to fire off a gun. 




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