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mnottertail -> RE: Subtle Suggestion (8/8/2006 3:41:02 PM)

Seems like a training issue to me.  It should get better with time.

If I tell you something is in the void, that means I so don't give a fuck about it.

If I tell you I have no feelings one way or another, that means  I  may not understand but will listen.

If I tell you something is...then just like the christian faith, it don't have to have a basis in fact, it IS.

If I tell you no...........it is so -- not worth your time-- (for brevity) to even pursue peripheral or ancillary avenues.

Ron (but that is just me)




SirKenin -> RE: Subtle Suggestion (8/8/2006 4:24:36 PM)

Well, the way I look at it is that I can not think of everything, and thus am very approachable.  This hard nosed routine is for the birds.  I guess some poor sap that is suffering severe emotional problems can put up with it, but I can not see the average human being not being able to approach his/her Dom/me and saying "Excuse me, but could we set aside some time to discuss something?" at which time the sub can humbly bring up their suggestion and it can be discussed.

This shitty "I am God" attitude is the reason why people might feel inclined to go behind their Master's/Mistresses's back to begin with.  Ultimately they are people in the relationship too, equal in every aspect to you.  If you are going to treat them like second class citizens, you can expect to have them eventually tire of it and either leave or go behind your back.  That is just a fact of life.  You people need to look past the BDSM aspect of it and realize there is a relationship dynamic of two people with their own sets of needs, each equal to the other.

What makes Me laugh and disgusted at the same time is listening to those people that make themselves unapproachable and then have the balls to punish their subs/slaves for doing something behind your back to project their needs or desires.  It sounds like you are the ones that need to give your head a shake and evaluate what it is that you are doing wrong.  Take some responsibility and ask yourself why your charge felt the need to do that to begin with.  Nobody is perfect, remember that.




Tangler -> RE: Subtle Suggestion (8/8/2006 7:58:36 PM)

Hard to answer as Dawn would never get a tattoo either temp or perm without permission, but for conversations sake...
 
She would be asked why she did so, than depending on her answer she would hear one of two responses.
 
#1 never do it again
#2 Just who the hell do you think you are?
 
She is mine, what is put on her body is my decision or maybe our decision, but never solely her decision.
 




Wolfie648 -> RE: Subtle Suggestion (8/9/2006 12:40:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: aleshaDreams

Masters, Sirs, Gentlemen, and Mistresses if i may inquire please.

This is not a dilemma, but a request for feedback and what type of response You would give to subtle suggestion from Your submissive/slave.

The scenerio is such that perhaps You are not particular about tattoos, and there has been discussion between You and Your submissive on such a notion, which was concluded that this was not of interest to You.  What type of response would You have if Your submissive went and got a temporary tattoo like a paste on of reasonable taste.  Would Your reaction be one that would warrant discipline or could something like this in effect change Your opinion over time.



If I had not forbid he/she slave to get a temporary tattoo I would not punish them if they got one; unless they got one and I told them to not do it again. I give them 3 'chances' at instruction before 'punishment' becomes involved.

If a _slave_ got a permanent tatoo w/o my permission I would probably go off the charts. slave = my property.

Submissives make their own choices and decide what they want to do when they want to do it. Kind of like a cat.

That's just me. You make your own rules as far as I see it. Either they live by them or don't. Sub/slave or otherwise.

D (owner of j)




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