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bi-sexuality and a question - 12/14/2004 10:30:36 PM   
aMstrspet4rt


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Status: offline 		i have had a Master (one i do not know) tell me because He has stated in His profile that He is bi-sexual it does not mean He has sex with other males but that DP for His female submissive is considered being Bi-sexual, now call me stupid if You may but as a female that has been with females only for almost 5 years (long ago) and then in the swinging lifestyle much later i would hate to tell all the swingers who are men that they are bi-sexual because they like to give their partner DP. please let me know what all You Dom's, Master's have to say on this subject as i am willing to be open minded about the topic and was told that in the BDSM lifestyle DP is considered bi-sexual...is this true??
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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/14/2004 10:57:15 PM   
ignatiaus


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Status: offline 		I'm sure that somewhere there is the ultimate definition of bi-sexuality. A quick google search indicated there are 3,250,000 sites (at a minimum) referenced to the word.

I've heard people outside the scene say that men who like anal sex with women are really gay. Then again ... most people are pretty silly about sex.

So ... here's my personal test. I don't watch guys ... or look for guys ... or oggle guys. I watch women ... think about them ... fantasize about them. I'm a dominant - and consider myself hetro. I like large object insertion into women ... vaginal or anal. I like dominant sex acts and objectification. To me someone bi-sexual is attracted to both sexes.

I know a number of Dominants/Tops who will play with both sexes ... but only have sex with one variety. I've known some who describe their orientation is 'flexible' :-)

I'm not really sure why it matters ... or why someone would call one sex act between people of the opposite sex bi-sexuality.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/14/2004 11:06:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok WHAT is "DP"
and being Bi-sexual is just that "BI SEXUAL" as in has sexual contact with both males and females.

One may have a "bi-sexual" slave or ?? but that means THEY are Bi-sexual.

being BI also does not mean its a one on one male/male or female/female only.
Being BI means to most that in a "pile of people" a male has no problem grabbing anothers cock. or likewise does not mind "who" by gender is sucking them.

There seems to be a nearly universal "stigmatism" in that a "BI" male is labeled "GAY" and that every male LOVES to get with "bi" females. Wish it was not that way but it seems it is..
There are in fact a LOT of "BI" males who do not wish to openly admit they are in fact "bi"




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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/14/2004 11:31:09 PM   
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quote:

ok WHAT is "DP"


I had the same question myself

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/14/2004 11:42:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		DP = double penetration

heterosexual = different sex (male/female)
homosexual = same sex (male/male, female/female)
bisexual = both sexes (male/male/female, female/male/female)


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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 12:41:16 AM   
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Um, if this guy is bi for engaging in sexual activity in proximity with another guy, does that mean that all you guys who did that jerk off to a porno together in college are bi? Inquiring minds...

This guy is either not comfortable discussing his sexuality and really is bisexual, or he's woefully uneducated. DP is not a bisexual act, unless it is oral and anal between three males. I had a straight Dom join an ex sub and myself. The culmination was the Dom jerking off on my ex subs face. I don't consider that a bisexual act. It was humiliation. Just having two guys in the same room doesn't make it bisexual.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 12:51:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought DP stands for "double play"--but it's the same concept.

Anyway, I've done my share of DP, and I don't consider myself bi. The two men in an MFM threesome COULD be bi, but they don't have to be. Fucking the same woman isn't the same thing as fucking the other guy who's fucking her. I think this one is pretty straightforward.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 4:52:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sex in proximity to a person of the same gender does not make you bi. If you're in a three-way, whether boy/boy/girl or girl/girl/guy, if the two boys or girls don't play with each other, it's not homoerotic, thus there is no element of bisexuality.

Personally, I don't think that you're bi just for indulging in a little strap-on play with a partner. Some folks are just a little intimidated by anything that threatens their sexuality, is all.

I count myself as bisexual, in spite of not having had a male sex partner in almost fourteen years. I LOOK at guys. I lust after guys. When I see a rock hard erection, whether or not I have any involvement with it, I become interested. I tend to stick with girls simply because I've had spectacularly good luck dating women and really poor luck dating guys. The right guy could turn that all around.

To me, and within the community that I became a part of when I joined the scene, a bisexual is just that - someone who is interested in, attracted to, and willing to have sex with partners of either gender.

Then again, many of my female friends inform me that there are dipwads out there who think bisexual means that a girl wants to have a three-way with them. There is no accounting for ignorance, stupidity, fear, or wishful thinking.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 5:55:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		To answer the original post ... this guy is goofy. DP does not mean one is Bi.

I think that if all men were to be truthful, you'd find a lot of male-male experimentation went on in their younger years ... and later on as well. Come on guyz .... fess up.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 8:04:22 AM   
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Actually I think that is not what you will find. Althoguh you will probably find several homophobes that would gladly pound you into mush just for asking them. Just because that may be how you are does not mean that many/most/all guys are the same way. I for one, personally have never been interested in another man/boy, not even for experimentation. So to Me your theory doesn't hold water.

I realize that being dominant or submissive has nothing to do with bi-sexuality but it seems that more often it tends to be the submissives, male and female, who are bisexual.

Be well,

ShadowKnight

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 10:48:05 AM   
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quote:

I realize that being dominant or submissive has nothing to do with bi-sexuality but it seems that more often it tends to be the submissives, male and female, who are bisexual


Not in my experience... yes for male subs vs male doms, but I know as many bi-fem dommes as I do subs. For that matter, most of the female switches I know are in a primary relationships with a male dominant, *switching* to be dominant to a female. What I have to wonder about that one,, is it because they *prefer* the concept of a female, or because their male dom is more comfortable with the concept of them with a female?

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 12:26:13 PM   
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I for one, personally have never been interested in another man/boy, not even for experimentation.

Shadow ... a repressed sexuality isn't healthy. Being as you've never been with a man, there's a chance that you just might be gay and not know it. Having done so myself, I know that I really prefer women.

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So to Me your theory doesn't hold water.

Of the Kinsey Report and studies by Masters & Johnson would tell me it is you that has the wrong perception.

alwayz .....

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 2:03:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I don't think that "bisexuality" is being sexual with someone of the same gender. THat's simply sexual contact. To me, being bisexual or homosexual means you are attracted, both physically and romantically, to one of the same gender as yourself.

I personally think that sex acts don't say anything about sexual orientation. People participate in various sex acts for a variety of reasons. To actually posses an orientation, I belive you must self-identify as it.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 2:47:34 PM   
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I personally think that sex acts don't say anything about sexual orientation. People participate in various sex acts for a variety of reasons. To actually posses an orientation, I belive you must self-identify as it.


You know Perverse. . .you kinda opened my eyes about something here. I don't know if I'm bi, quasi-bi, pseudo bi, or just plain old selfish. . .but I'd let a woman eat me out. . .and I wouldn't give a thought to reciprocity. I don't like (other people's) pussy. It does nothing for me to look at it, smell it, taste it, penetrate it. . .period. I ate some once. . .no twice. I don't need to go into graphic detail about what was going through my mind as I did it. . .but it sure as hell wasn't visions of sugar plums dancing in my head. More like bearded mollusks draining ooze. So as a "sex act" (one sided) I don't care about the gender. . .as long as I get to bust a nut. If I am to be *actively* involved. . .it would have to be a man.

*blushes* it's so hard to be so selfish at times!

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 3:16:09 PM   
perverseangelic


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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

You know Perverse. . .you kinda opened my eyes about something here. I don't know if I'm bi, quasi-bi, pseudo bi, or just plain old selfish. . .but I'd let a woman eat me out. . .and I wouldn't give a thought to reciprocity. I don't like (other people's) pussy. It does nothing for me to look at it, smell it, taste it, penetrate it. . .period. I ate some once. . .no twice. I don't need to go into graphic detail about what was going through my mind as I did it. . .but it sure as hell wasn't visions of sugar plums dancing in my head. More like bearded mollusks draining ooze. So as a "sex act" (one sided) I don't care about the gender. . .as long as I get to bust a nut. If I am to be *actively* involved. . .it would have to be a man.

*blushes* it's so hard to be so selfish at times!

Jules



Exactly what I was saying :). I figure the same is true of guys who like anal penetration. Doesn't make 'em gay. Doesn't even necessarially make them the submissive partner in a relationship. It's just a sex act people like

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 3:23:16 PM   
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More like bearded mollusks draining ooze

So much for my love for cunnilingus ....

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 6:00:35 PM   
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quote:

More like bearded mollusks draining ooze.


mmmmmmmmm.....haute cuisine

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 7:09:39 PM   
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being Bi-sexual is just that "BI SEXUAL" as in has sexual contact with both males and females.


I don't think that's exactly right, Phil. I don't think prisoners who have sex with each other in prison and then go back to heterosexual sex once they're out are necessarily bisexual at all -- any more than they are homosexual in prison. You could call it "homosexual sex" but that just doesn't make the two guys doing it homosexual.

I always thought homosexuality or bisexuality refers to whether or not there was some emotional element -- whether or not the person was capable of falling in love with the same sex or both sexes.

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 7:46:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well i think we are all bi. Some because of nature/nurture are taught to refrain.
Which is fabulous, coz thats all the more for me me me!

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RE: bi-sexuality and a question - 12/15/2004 8:17:54 PM   
alwayzron


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Status: offline 		As I believe I said in a different thread ... Freud believed that we all possess a latent homosexuality. Of course ... he also believed that little boys feared castration from their fathers and we are all born with an inherent desire to kill ourselves.

Anyway ..... I think we put a lot of labels on a lot of things that shouldn't be labeled. Soooooo ..... I'll take a leap and be the first (?) to confess that I've looked the monster in the eye on a couple of occasions .... but I don't consider myself to be bi. Oddly, I find men's bodies to be aesthetically unattractive ... whereas women are inherently soft and beautiful.

Okay .... anyone else want to confess to this deepest darkest sin of desire? And if so ... do you consider yourself to be bi ... or just fun?

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