Termyn8or
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Sorry to neglect the thread. One poster mentioned something about harmful side effects due to a mineral supplement. I am aware of that, the book I quoted does give a paragraph or so on each mineral's toxicity.
The form of the compounds in the minerals in sea salt prevent it, it is simply excreted in the urine usuall, even the sodium. The problems sodium causes are cheifly because of the anti-clumping agent. The sodium winds up in the wrong places, instead of being absorbed properly.
The vanadium or chromium derived from a source other than sea salt does indeed have a toxicity level, as does almost anything. What I would like to do is get enough data to make more specific decisions based on symptoms, but data are rare. As I said, not everyone has the same requirements, this really does apply to minerals. It not only depends on your current diet, but also how well your body absorbs each essential mineral.
From what I've gleaned, most colloidal mineral supplements try to get their proportions near seawater, except for the sodium of course. Seawater is ninety some percent sodium chloride, and you would think a salt company refines it for the good of the consumer. Bullshit.
Now you can look into this yourself - more than ½ the revenues of a salt company (such as Morton's or their parent company) are derived from what is refined out of the salt, rather than the salt. At least when it is sea salt. I can't seem to find data on the difference between inland salt, such as under Lake Erie. It is, however, reasonable to assume that it is very similar. Where there is salt, there used to be seawater, usually.
A whole bunch of minerals, elements that is, are stripped from the salt, and these include our essential minerals. They are sold to chemical companies sometimes for further seperation, and to paint manufacturers and steel mills. Some are sold to manufacturers of supplements who attempt to return them to an absorbable form, with varying degrees of success. Vandal Sulphate might be just the thing for you, or it could be poison.
Same goes for Chromium Piccolinate, who knows ? Any supplement could be formed wrong or right, and how do we know ? Indeed, how ?
I use the colloidal type because it seems to help, your result might not be the same. I exclusively use unrefined seasalt when I use salt, but you can't use salt in everything. Thing is, seasalt is the one thing you can be sure of, it wasn't made by a chemical company, it was found on the Earth. It supports sea life, and is very similar to the fluid ("water") in the uterus during gestation. I've heard that the saline solution given in hospitals after a trauma is not exactly Mortons and water either, but I have not checked it out. Even if it were so, how could salt water help you when sodium is such a killer ?
That last sentence says what I really want to say. You must draw your own conclusions, and strive for empirical data whenever possible. I don't discard what one poster said about toxicity, but then what form was the supplement ?
Basically, if seasalt weren't so damn expensive I would most likely fertilize a garden with it, and grow plants that SPECIFICALLY absorb the desired minerals. Indeed wars have been waged for control of land that had been recently flooded by the sea. the reason why is that people used to be smarter. Let's face it, we have trouble surviving with all this science and technology, they did it without these supposed benefits. If they hadn't, none of us would be here.
I will probably have some time on my hands later and I'll go do a bit of research, looking around etc., and be back.
Right now I just wanted to let everybody know that I haven't abandoned this thread. I'm glad to see at least a few people are interested. It never fails to amaze me how many people totally neglect the most important part of their corporeal life, keeping the machine running. When it konks out, YOU konk out. No matter what your religion or afterlife beliefs, it does not stand to reason that we are supposed to squander this life. I think we are supposed to live long, prosper and spread our wisdom, once gained. In this way humans advance. To do this you must be alert and not infirm.
To go further, people have survived without doctors at all. Again, if they hadn't, we wouldn't be here. When I got shot and went to a hospital, my recuperative power was described as amazing. My thoughts on how that trauma affected me will be in another post. Even though I hadn't done all I have done now, I must've been doing something right.
I'm off, I'll be baack. BTW, if you disagree with things I post here, feel free to deunktify me. If I can't rebunktify myself I will stand corrected, possibly convinced, or at least in doubt of one of my opinions in question. I have been studying this for almost ten years, and my conclusions are unusual. I think my conclusions are true, if not it would be a crime to post them. Not only do I think that disseminating them is a good thing to do, when someone proves me wrong I will be quite thankful.
That is because I would rather be right than wrong. Please try to substantiate what you say when possible, I know it is not always easy, believe me. In time I will bring in more evidence, in the future it will be more in the way of links. I have more stored, in fact on alot of different diseases, but this thread is mainly about diabetes. Other things are related. Diet is surely related, noone can dispute that, and I don't dispute the genetic connection either, it is just as valid. Thing is, in a different way. It has to do with a person's ability to absorb what is needed to keep the machine going. We are from all kinds of different backgrounds and as such cannot assume our body's chemistries work exactly the same.
So what you need to eat to be healthy might be quite different than what I need. The way for us to get empirical data on ourselves (the most important I would think) is to gauge our body's reaction to supplements, changes in diet or eating habits etc. IF you decide to go low carbs and stop eating potatoes and start feeling like shit, by all means eat some potatoes. Try a little less though, and see if you start feeling better.
In that way you adjust the diet to your own particular needs. Your own situation and lineage determine those needs, indeed writes the "mineral signature" your body needs to keep running. What people eat and drink today is akin to putting acetone in your car's gastank, or lemon juice in the oil. Try that and see how long your car runs.
Certain additives and other crap in the food is not always apparent. Hydrogenateds and synthetic color and flavor are pervasive in many prepared foods. For most people, this means you will have to cook.
What you need here is the capability to judge for yourselves, that is of prime importance. I can only present information and my views. For example I read that the target cholesterol level should be 200, any lower and you INCREASE your risk of heart disease. I don't want to go into it now, I AM NOT presenting it. That's for another time. I need more than one or two articles, in other words, no hook, line and sinker. I do welcome the chance to debunktify the normal medical profession's views. We have a very high rate of heart disease, so how can one figure that what they are doing is working ?
Now we have good cholesterol and bad, a few years ago there was only one kind ! Have they ever made up their mind on the butter/margarine issue ? That's why my views are so unusual, I give no creedence to credentials for the most part. Give me links to the data etc., not the party line. I don't discount the party line, but it's not true just because they say it. It's also not untrue just because they say it. It just seems I have found alot better sources than the "party".
I must go, I'll be back. That last paragraph put me in a hurry.
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