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bluelace001 -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 7:49:56 AM)
Maybe it's an area thing. I'm in California, and we don't seem to have that problem. We also go on an anual kink ride and the bikers are mixed Dom, subs ect. Everyone is welcome and there is no judgement on who is driving the motorcycle. We have just as many male subs who drive motorcycles as switches and Doms.

hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 7:54:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RavenMuse (I know some bikers who would argue that riding is in the blood and biker is something they are... ) (snipped) Heh - its ironic that you mention this. I find myself in that camp. Biker is who I AM, submissive is something that I sometimes do - as opposed to the vast majority here, who are opposite. I gave up power exchange - I could never give up riding. (Hell, I could give up sex and sexuality completely easier than I could give up riding.) I have never Personally have never met any males who Admitted to being on the sumissive side who were also riders, though I've met a few who liked bikes who were flat out submissive. You'd think there would be more out there, since the two subcultures have so much in common - leather fetishists, rugged individualists on both the dominant and submissive sides of the personality coin, those who cherish their freedoms...

Lordandmaster -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 7:56:50 AM)
Yeah, but there's a penetrator/penetrated dynamic too. If you're the penetrated homosexual--that's it, pack your bags or expect to take it for the rest of your life. If you're the penetrating homosexual--well, sometimes you can make that fly. quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster The submissive bikers I've known have been female. I'd guess that male bikers who have a hard time coming out as subs don't want to be, shall we say, fucked in the ass by their buddies if they were to find out. [snip] Though being fucked in the ass would not be a concern as the fucker would then be gay, a fate worse than death for most male bikers i know.

twicehappy -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 4:28:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster Yeah, but there's a penetrator/penetrated dynamic too. If you're the penetrated homosexual--that's it, pack your bags or expect to take it for the rest of your life. If you're the penetrating homosexual--well, sometimes you can make that fly. Lol, not on the street perhaps but more than likely behind bars. Don't drop the soap..........

zenofeller -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 4:44:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy (Note on why i say eclectic: We are not only bikers, we have interests in everything from antique books to gardening and the ballet.) a gardening and ballet afficionado biker ? you certainly jest sir ?

Hercuckslave -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 4:52:34 PM)
sorry, but i think that is a ridiculous suggestion. i am a slave, and i ride motorcycles. i see no contradiction at all. i know there are all sorts of slaves and submissives. for me, i don't, and have never considered myself a sissy. i have always thought of myself as a "man-slave". i have also ridden and owned motorcycles since college, some #$%$ years ago. my current ride is a BMW R1150R. I lovingly refer to her as my "other Mistress." Ride on, be safe, keep the shiny side up and the rubber side down. M's m

Hercuckslave -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 4:58:12 PM)
oh, one more thing....i should have done this in my previous post, but there is a distinction between a biker and a motorcyclist. i don't consider myself a "biker" with the connotations of tatood, bearded, wallet on chain, harley dude. i am an avid motorcyclist. some differences... bikers get caught in the rain, motocyclists ride in the rain. bikers look at the brand of your bike, motorcyclists look at your odometer. M's m

twicehappy -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 5:05:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hercuckslave sorry, but i think that is a ridiculous suggestion. i am a slave, and i ride motorcycles. i see no contradiction at all. i know there are all sorts of slaves and submissives. for me, i don't, and have never considered myself a sissy. i have always thought of myself as a "man-slave". Congrats to both you and your owner. Ps; motorcyclists ride motorcycles; biker is a lifestyle and Harley is a lifestatement. quote: ORIGINAL: zenofeller a gardening and ballet afficionado biker ? you certainly jest sir ? No i jest not, lol. We have a huge range of interests.

MasterFireMaam -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 5:35:18 PM)
scratches head Well, seeing that the Leather lifestyle has firms roots in the gay military bikers from WWII, I'd say not. Master Fire

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/9/2006 7:45:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam scratches head Well, seeing that the Leather lifestyle has firms roots in the gay military bikers from WWII, I'd say not. Master Fire Isn't it funny when historical literal history meets up with harlequin/bored housewife and gender stereotypes?

twicehappy -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/10/2006 3:42:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam Well, seeing that the Leather lifestyle has firms roots in the gay military bikers from WWII, I'd say not. It is a little different among the straight bikers though, they tend to think differently.

thetammyjo -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/10/2006 7:25:05 AM)
I'm sorry, I'm just laughing because of the history of gay biker clubs where there were tops and bottoms -- I don't think they saw one as less manly. I think the whole attraction was the fact that they were two manly men together. I certainly don't think that what we enjoy or our jobs is a necessary reflection of our sexual preferences, orientations or kink role. Some of us have harmony between all parts of our lives. Some of us like to have variety and it may seem disjointed to others but it really isn't because it all flows well for us.

twicehappy -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/11/2006 12:24:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo I'm sorry, I'm just laughing because of the history of gay biker clubs where there were tops and bottoms -- I don't think they saw one as less manly. I think the whole attraction was the fact that they were two manly men together. I certainly don't think that what we enjoy or our jobs is a necessary reflection of our sexual preferences, orientations or kink role. I agree with you, i have known some very manly biker type bottoms but all i knew were gay and not well accepted by the mainstream biker crowd. Biker is a lifestyle as opposed to someone who rides motorcycles, there is a difference. It does seem to be viewed as un biker like to be a sub for a male. Though i disagree with that sentiment.

MochaMistress -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/13/2006 4:32:53 PM)
I've had to most yummy male biker subs. Just because they ride a bike or are part of a riding association doesnt mean that they can change who they really are inside.

crouchingtigress -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/13/2006 7:12:17 PM)
i am of the mind that it has nothing to do with percentages or shortages or anything like that...and yes i am in the minority...but i truly believe that old adage when the student is ready the teacher will come...meaning: he is a unique and special person, and he will be joining some wonderful unique and special folks ....and that sort of magic has its own way of working.[;)]

twicehappy -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/13/2006 7:14:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress i am of the mind that it has nothing to do with percentages or shortages or anything like that...and yes i am in the minority...but i truly believe that old adage when the student is ready the teacher will come...meaning: he is a unique and special person, and he will be joining some wonderful unique and special folks ....and that sort of magic has its own way of working.[;)] Awww..You are so sweet, we believe it too but sometimes the waiting......

Misstoyou -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/13/2006 7:23:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twicehappy I will tell you why i ask; My Mistress is looking for a male sub or slave, preferably but necessarily a biker or biker type. At least someone who would fit into a rather eclectic household that is open to trying motorcycles. Yet it seems there are few who fit this bill. That's interesting. I would think that there would be a number of guys who see being a biker Domme's bitch as a fantasy come true. lol Maybe more emphasis on "will train to suit", for guys who may be intimidated if they're not already bikers, will expand the gene pool.

crouchingtigress -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/13/2006 7:51:55 PM)
*quote:* but sometimes the waiting gosh i have such a hard time wrapping my mind around that. i guess because i think that you all seem so awesome and interesting, and from everything i have read, there seems to be much meeting of minds and mutual fufillment, in my mind i ask myself what exactly are you waiting for? if it is too personal a question just ignor it, i dont mean to pry... i am curious though.

Hercuckslave -> RE: Is biker subbie a contradiction in terms like honest politician? (8/13/2006 8:28:16 PM)
hey twice happy, harley = lifestatement? is that statement over priced, sluggish, truck-handling, oil leaking, unreliable, underperforming, way too loud, shake off parts, rattle traps? ::::ducks to avoid flying objects::::: just kidding :) thanks for the nice words. ride safe and happy. M's m ('02 BMW R1150R, '00 Ducati Monster 900)

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