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Mercnbeth -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:18:41 PM)

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The UN is doing something about it in Darfur and Tibet? Seriously?
Merc, I still own this huge steel structure in Paris, 300 metres tall the last time I measured. The view is great from up there: you can see half way to Darfur! What say you take it off my hands? I can let you have for a relatively cheap


Rule,
I apologize. I know my brand of sarcasm doesn't translate well across the ocean. I was being VERY facetious when I said that the UN were doing something about Darfar and Tibet. I follow both situations regularly and I think what's happening in those two places is one of the biggest ongoing world ignored crimes. Again-sorry about that! But I'll give you 2 Euro's for the steel structure as long as I don't have to go there to pick it up!

I don't see any similar genocide occurring in South America. There are very restrictive and oppressive regimes in power, but I don't know of any organized killing of one distinguished group as in Darfur and Tibet.




mnottertail -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:36:50 PM)

So, what precisely is the point of a British foil bomb?

So we know where they are, or what?

Ron




Rule -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:41:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Rule,
I apologize. I know my brand of sarcasm doesn't translate well across the ocean. I was being VERY facetious when I said that the UN were doing something about Darfar and Tibet.


Ah. Oké. Then I apologize as well for not getting it.
 
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
I follow both situations regularly and I think what's happening in those two places is one of the biggest ongoing world ignored crimes.

It is all about oil and mineral wealth.
 
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Again-sorry about that! But I'll give you 2 Euro's for the steel structure as long as I don't have to go there to pick it up!

Aww. You are not half as gullible as I suspected. I regret that I cannot let you have it for 2 euro's. It is worth at least 42 million.

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
I don't see any similar genocide occurring in South America.

Not yet. Preparing the masses takes time: decades.




NakisisaX -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:44:08 PM)

its amazing how these "plots" are always found out just in time and yet they can't seem to find bin laden or missing children for that matter. now either these are really good cops or these "terrorists" are just too stupid. maybe its just another elaborate hoax to keep citizens on their toes because they scare so easily.




Chaingang -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:47:00 PM)

"U.S. invasion responsible deaths of over 250,000 civilians in Iraq"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11674.htm
(sources and methodology explained)

The War in Iraq Costs $305,773,365,454
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182
(and counting, see the ticker...)




Chaingang -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:48:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NakisisaX
maybe its just another elaborate hoax to keep citizens on their toes because they scare so easily.


Doesn't anyone believe in the bogeyman any longer, dammit!

Anyway, that's another thread: http://www.collarchat.com/m_526474/tm.htm




NakisisaX -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 1:57:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

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ORIGINAL: NakisisaX
maybe its just another elaborate hoax to keep citizens on their toes because they scare so easily.


Doesn't anyone believe in the bogeyman any longer, dammit!

Anyway, that's another thread: http://www.collarchat.com/m_526474/tm.htm


of course the bogeyman exists, but i'm worried about the bogeymen that supply and fund the other bogeymen and who stands to make a profit from innocent deaths.




Level -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 4:24:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
Surely then, the murder of 20-30 million would just be a larger drop in the desert and just slightly less insignificant?


That would be ten thousand to one hundred thousand more 'drops'. Still insignificant, yes. However, the deaths of several dozen, hundreds or a few thousand people due to a 'terrorist' attack does not justify state sponsored genocide upon tens of millions of people.
 
Where is this "state sponsored genocide upon tens of millions" going on?


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
We might be being manipulated by news services and government, but we are all in this together so is it any wonder we feel for others who are murdered or might be?
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Feel all you like, but do not direct your anger at the perceived perpetrators nor anybody that you associate with them. Instead pray for their misguided souls and forgive them. Be compassionate and loving instead of revengeful and hating.  It costs less, you will feel happier and you will not commit genocide upon tens of millions of innocent people that you blame for the 'terrorist' attack.
 
And how can you advise love when in your earlier post you said "who gives a fuck?"

 




EnglishDomNW -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 5:06:25 PM)

I'd rather we all hear about an atrocity the day before it happens than the day after.




IronBear -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 5:50:02 PM)

Not having read the replies, all I am going to say is: Our thoughts and prayers are with the UK, especially oue kith and kin and our thanks that this was stopped.




caitlyn -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/10/2006 9:19:08 PM)

Those that want to destroy us, could probably figure out how to make a fake passport. Better yet, how about killing an innocent American tourists in order to steal their identity.
 
Linking this event to illegal immigration, is deserving of the tin foil hat award that Merc is so fond of passing out.[;)]
 
Much love to the police in the UK.




Chaingang -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/11/2006 1:08:25 AM)

oh, the laughter goes on and on...

...

And check out this article from Asheville, NC. "Maya Leoni, who is held by Angela Perez, cries as her mother, A.J. Leoni, pours the last of her drink into the receptacle while in line for the security checkpoint at the Asheville Regional Airport."

POUR IT INTO A RECEPTACLE? Don't you think that some of these potentially explosive liquids might be more dangerous when, I don't know, mixed in a big vat in the middle of an airport?

Christ, why don't they just have people put their liquids into a big bonfire?

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/10/if_the_liquid_could_.html




Kedikat -> RE: British foil bomb plot? (8/11/2006 1:54:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

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Having seen the devastation being caused by the U.S. in Iraq from many, many sources I have my own sense of what has to be true.


Chain,
Maybe that's the problem. Are you using Reuters for your visual sense? Seems like they do some "enhancing" and "expansion" in their visuals. Like the death count from those links you provided.

And how about that. That other bastion of "right wing" news CBS is also mentioned. I'd forgotten about the faked memo. Perhaps you need to expand your 'sense' sources.

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This Reuters photograph shows blatant evidence of manipulation. Notice the repeating patterns in the smoke; this is almost certainly caused by using the Photoshop “clone” tool to add more smoke to the image. (Hat tip: Mike.)
It’s so incredibly obvious, it reminds me of the faked CBS memos. Smoke simply does not contain repeating symmetrical patterns like this, and you can see the repetition in both plumes of smoke. There’s really no question about it.
But it’s not only the plumes of smoke that were “enhanced.” There are also cloned buildings.
Link to Pictures and story: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21956_Reuters_Doctoring_Photos_from_Beirut&only

Commentary on this issue from the Boston Herald (Another "right wing" mouth-piece! [sm=biggrin.gif])
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Hezbollah also knows that people see what they want to see. That would explain why, as these blogs and others have pointed out, different news photographers who arrived at Qana hours apart, have similar photos of the same bodies being carried out of the wreckage and loaded onto ambulances. Photos of the dead are important. People around the world need to know about the realities of war, no matter how they feel about the justification of a particular war. In America, police, medics and firefighters usually shield the dead from the view of news cameras whenever possible. But it would appear that Hezbollah, or worse, Lebanese rescue workers, decided the best use of a dead child was to be dragged around for propaganda purposes.
Source: http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=152077&srvc=home




I do agree that news be it left center or right is getting progressively poorer in quality and facts. I have to sift through multiple sources and go back again later after it has been vetted by other sources to get any kind of good fact.

Even when it sets with my views I am suspicious and wait and cross the story with other sources. It gets harder all the time. Any real depth to so many of the stories takes weeks to come out.




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