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Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 2:21:12 PM

MissTlTTYMilk

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I did a search which had no findings on "nonverbal humilliation". I read recent threads with humilliation as a topic which implicated humilliation was done verbally. I did not want to get off topic on someone's thread, but i am curious if others believe that humilliation is considered a strictly verbal activity. i am quick to say that i dont enjoy harsh verbal humilliation, but i do enjoy being humilliated in public and private settings--this humilliation is usually done by actions and not words.. With every BDSM term there is a definition or two for every person defining it. So i guess my question is:

How do Y/you define humilliation and in Y/your opinion, does it have to be done verbally?

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 2:37:08 PM

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For me humiliation is purposefully putting someone in a humbled state towards another.

It does not need to be verbal, though that generally is the most common way.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 3:33:39 PM

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Humiliation need not be verbal. Of course, humiliation is in the eye of the person being humiliated.

Would, for example, being instructed to pee in a kettle rather than the toilet, be humiliating for you?

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 5:22:09 PM

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A Dominant leads his slave into the front room of his home. They are of fairly long standing together and she has come to trust and respect him. He motions to her to strip. She does so, without hesitation. She has been eying something covered with a sheet in the corner.

Knowing him to be a devious craftsman. Wordlessly, he pulls away the covering, revealing a steel stick backed bondage stool. It has heavy leather straps in all the right places. In it's center is a 6 inch hole, with a clear plastic cup- filling it neatly. Just behind the cup, a rubber dildo juts up ,solidy affixed at a slightly inclining forward angle. It gleams wetly with lubrication. her eyes widen as he motions her forward-again she obeys. Turns, sits, gasping slightly as the dildo slides home to it's full depth in her ass.

He binds her to the chair with straps..Crossing under her breasts, over her thighs, around wrists and ankles. Pats her head and wanders over to an easy chair, picks up a book and begins reading.

Of course, he has had her drink copious amounts of liquid before hand. It's never been a limit to urinate in front of him, but she has always been shy and reserved about it. He waits patiently as the pressure in her bladder builds, ignoring her and enjoying the book. She squirms and blushes, knowing his intent. And that this time, there will be no choice, no hiding or making of excuses.

The pressure builds to unbearable levels........the dildo becomes more and more painful as her two sphincters clench together.............over and over..........fighting to keep control of her bladder...Finally, she relaxes her ass a little to to try to ease the burning, and her flow bursts free...........tries to stop it, but only mananges to flutter it slightly............it announces itself with noisy sound effects as it first hits the sides of the cup beneath, and then it's own deepening pool.

She looks looks up to see her master smiling at her..........and as soon as her eyes meet his, he stares fixedly at the filling cup-making it quite clear that he has not missed a moment of her humbling loss of control................

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 6:41:41 PM

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My definition of humiliation is the act of placing me in a humbled, embarrassing mindset.

No, humiliation does not have to be verbal and in this house it rarely is.

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(yes, urinating in front of my Master would do it)

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 10:49:38 PM

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It is an individual thing, example, it means little to have a topless dancer remove her shirt for the drive home, but have a shy woman simply leave her shirt unbuttoned on the drive home and it can be very intence.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 11:01:09 PM

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Making sure that a slave understands her head is never to rise above the level of my cock is a good way to keep her close to the ground. That is what "humiliation" means, after all.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 11:08:48 PM

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Humiliation can be either or both, really--it all depends on what the submissive finds humilating--if that makes sense (and I'm fast replying, so please understand if I am repeating others comments)...

For example, I find certain words/terms etc to be extremely humilating--and others, not. Using those terms, or having me use them, is most definately humilating for me--for a verbal example. Physically, I am a very private person--and something so simple as leaving the door open when I use the bathroom, even when alone in the house, is beyond humiliating. There are hundreds of examples out there--but it's all about individuals, and what not.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 8/11/2006 11:28:33 PM

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I once had someone ask me if I were taken on a walk with a leash and then left outside on the curb while my handler and someone else went into a restaurant to eat, would I feel humiliated?

I asked them- what was the weather like and when was the last time I'd eaten and gone to the bathroom?

I tried to explain that humiliation is a very sensitive area, with so many levels intermingling to throw off the balance. If it's pouring out rain, or scorching hot, or I'm starving, what the hell do I care if I'm on a leash? I'm just miserable.

He didn't really get it though.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 9/4/2006 4:51:07 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissTlTTYMilk

How do Y/you define humilliation and in Y/your opinion, does it have to be done verbally?

Humiliation _to me_ is always about mindsets. Some want physical, some want mental. Defining it depends on the people involved.

Whatever works for you in your relationship.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 9/4/2006 5:28:17 AM

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Every time i have felt truely humbled, it has been through non-verbal means.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 9/4/2006 5:53:53 AM

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It absolutely does not have to be verbal. I had a friend that was completely humiliated by having to walk out of the house without any make-up on or having her hair just right.
Her Dominant ensured it happened regularly.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 9/4/2006 7:58:18 AM

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Oh god I LOVE this sort of play, but then again a woman's mind is the most erotic playground there is for me.

For LA, I wouldn't use a leash. I would use a small kids ball, big enough she couldn't talk. I would then take her out to dinner with a woman she didn't know but one who was attractive and I intended to play with. I would allow her to lower her mouth to my hand and spit out the ball so I could feed her and upon completion I would reach over and insert the ball again.

Since I don't know you LA, how did I do? Close or no cigar? No laughing as I don't have much to go on.

Now the above scene is a bit over the top but to me, what I love best is finding that scene that is just over the edge, so that you demonstrate that you know a person so well, you are so inside their head that you can adjust something the tiniest amount and slide into their humiliation zone in the most subtle of ways. Sort of like when you know a woman's body when you can keep her just on the edge of orgasm, so close the spasms rock her but not enough to put her over the edge. I like to do the same with humiliation, walk back and forth over that line, never too much, so even when you don't have her there, she knows her secret thoughts aren't secret to me.

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RE: Nonverbal Humilliation - 9/4/2006 3:17:43 PM

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Taking slave out with M and I ... to eat. her remaining as any slave ... on the floor, like a dog and feeding her the scraps in front of everyone in the restrauant. In between 'courses', she bows her head to touch her head to the floor. After the meal, snap the leash on and walk out. Humilliation is a very good form of punishment. I do NOT embarrass ... *lol*. I don't care what others think. I put this one on another thread ...

A slave of mine had crossed the line one too many times. Patience is very strong in me but this time ... was the last time. I gave her 10 days of no clothing and arranged for a vanilla visit. I ordered her blindfolded and kneeling as I talking with them in the living room. She was ... mortified to say the least. One of my friends asked if HE could touch her (she's a lesbian), I said yes and listened as she literally panted in panic as he reached out and ....

Touched her hair.

Effective ... yeppers ... humilliating ... YES!!

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