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MHOO314 -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 8:37:40 AM)

Happens all the time and it's irritating as hell--here is the latest:
 
"dom here has read your profile and likes what he sees, you may approach"
 
[8|] yeah, right.
 
Many who do that seem to have this anger that a woman cannot be Dominant---tsk tsk.




kiska -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 9:18:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

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ORIGINAL: kiska

No offense, Iron Bear ... But any man who can't think of a better way to control a woman than to 'bitchslap' her ... Kinda falls into the knuckle dragging category of males, in my opinion ... Maybe that has something to do with the fact that I still cringe when a man raises his voice or moves too quickly in my general direction. I've been 'bitchslapped' enough times to know that not only does physical violence *not* make me feel submissive towards someone, it just breeds pain, hatred, fear and more violence.



Read my words in full and not just choose what you think will suit your purpose:::::

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however, If I am confronted by a female who treats every male like he is a worthless piece of garbage, makes every attempt to dominate all men, or attempts to play rough house with me, then all bets are off and she'll find that I'm a celtic barbarian who will, if she tries to get physicall, take a handfull of hair and bitchslap her to her knees untill she appologies and behaves herself in an adult and good mannered manner.


Seeing that you obviously are in the same boat as MMNH and only live or have lived in areas where people are the "Nice" suburban midle class people.. Got news for you more than half the people I have had to be involved with or deal with carry weapons of some kind and eat thge candy assed "nice" people for breakfast (male or female). People of any gender who want to get roufg with me are looking at a fight and bitchslapping (to either gender) is a tame form of treatment.. No one gets rough with me or mine and walks away unscathed.. Nice Person? Who the hell ever said that I'm a nice soft person? Barbarian who will and has killed in the past and probably will again? Hell yes in the need is there.  I do have to be pushed to an extreme level top provoke anyphysical responce but once pushed there there I will react. You stay in your nice secure home or neighbourhood and never walk into areas I used to work in for as sure as I'm writing this the chances of your survival is small indeed..

Go and re-read my entire original post and if you don't like it then ignor all my posts I couldn't give a flying fuck either way. 



You chose only the words of mine that suited you ... So, yeah.

Anyway, I'm not gonna hijack this thread. I emailed you on the other side. Believe it or not, I do respect you IB ... I just feel very strongly about anyone who feels they have any right or need to use  physical violence on those who are smaller and weaker than them.




Lashra -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 9:31:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

I've long got past the stage of thinking every female is a slave, however, If I am confronted by a female who treats every male like he is a worthless piece of garbage, makes every attempt to dominate all men, or attempts to play rough house with me, then all bets are off and she'll find that I'm a celtic barbarian who will, if she tries to get physicall, take a handfull of hair and bitchslap her to her knees untill she appologies and behaves herself in an adult and good mannered manner. (Frankly, if the law allowed, I'd lock steel about her throad and chain her to the dunny for a day or so). Certainly there can be the thrill oif the hunt and a trophy but personally I've grown out of that stage some 30 years ago.. Having said this, I do beieve that for every woman there is at least one man sonewhere in the world, whose personality of other charactistics will at the very least make her uncomfortably aware of her femaleness, her sexuality and there will be at least a fleeting thought about submitting to him on her knees as a slave.. That many dominant women never run accross this man is why they have stayed as they are.. It is all part of nature and being human.. However I have seen more than one dominant woman submit to a dominant male and do so proudly, happily and without drama. The ones I know have still solid relationships.. I just let other people be who they are provided they are not rocking my boat or causing disruptions.. Everyone is welcome to their choices.. 

I believe for every Dominant male there is a woman who can put him in touch with his submissive side as I believe as humans we have both traits within ourselves. I know for my my sub who is an ex Gorean Master, all he needed was for someone to show him that the so called *natural order* isn't so natural at all.

I play nice with most folks, but I've had 3  Alpha males think they were going to manhandle me, one was drunk and tried to force himself on me, I broke his nose for him. The second attempted to to force me into a car after I broke up with him but my drawn gun sent him packing, the third didn't like the fact that I was standing up for women's issues and tried to bitchslap me, for which he got broken ribs. Women can play just as dirty if pushed. I prefer not to go that route but if I'm pushed and have to defend myself, oh yeah I'm ready to play hardball.

~Lashra




juliaoceania -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 10:29:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

fast reply.

I have seen many domme profiles that state they want male slaves but will only have relationships with male doms, and they are looking for male doms to dominate other people with. I have seen a few of these relationships on this board, and it makes sense to me.


I'm not poly, even in play-so this sort of thing would never work for me. And sharing power is just too vanilla.


Im not poly either, and it is a hard limit for me, but my kink is not there kink, but their kink is is ok by me... and there is nothing vanilla about this in my mind. BTW, if my Daddy ever brought a female home to top me, she might lose her teeth, it is up there with scat play in my squick book. He knows this and has no problem as he doesn't like sharing his toys anyways.




mstrjx -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 10:52:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

He doesn't like sharing his toys anyways.


And a broken toy is no fun for anyone.

Jeff




IronBear -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 11:21:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra


I believe for every Dominant male there is a woman who can put him in touch with his submissive side as I believe as humans we have both traits within ourselves. I know for my my sub who is an ex Gorean Master, all he needed was for someone to show him that the so called *natural order* isn't so natural at all.
~Lashra


I'll agree with that too.. However this does not always equate to the male being submissive. He just is shown and should be allowed to explor and utilise the additional power and abilities his feminine side gives him to becone a well balanced person. This is part of the natural order of things. There will always be those who are naturally dominant and those who will not be so.
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ORIGINAL: Lashra
I play nice with most folks, but I've had 3  Alpha males think they were going to manhandle me, one was drunk and tried to force himself on me, I broke his nose for him. The second attempted to to force me into a car after I broke up with him but my drawn gun sent him packing, the third didn't like the fact that I was standing up for women's issues and tried to bitchslap me, for which he got broken ribs. Women can play just as dirty if pushed. I prefer not to go that route but if I'm pushed and have to defend myself, oh yeah I'm ready to play hardball.
~Lashra


You are demonstrating my point, as I commented to kiska in a return message, the women in both my old bodyguard and merc teams were women, fit obviously and skilled and average height 5'2".. Ther average bloke wanting to stop any one of them when pissed off would need a gun or one hell of a lot of luck. The technique I described, works wett because it is unconventional and mostly unexpected, it deliver the opponent (male or female) to a kneeling position fast and in a painfull confused situation unarmed but not helpless. My late Sensai's daughter (Traditional Japaese girl 4'10") taught me that move the week after she flattened several bikers in a Blues Bar for getting handy. The bitch slaps never need to loosen teeth but to sting and huminiate which it works on guys too if they have reasonable length hair.. As I also commented in my last post, violence is a last resort (unless you are in a combat or black opps senario). I work on the basis that anyone who threatens or attempts to harm my family or my self physically and takes the first step place themselves at risk. I have to assume they they may be well trained, experienced and possibly armed, unless I know differently. making this assumption has kept me alive time after time..




Emperor1956 -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 11:38:11 AM)

LuckyAlbatross: 
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B)  some masters and doms illusion themselves that it's attractive to try and convince someone they aren't who they say they are (I think they learn this from going after novice subs and realizing how easy it is to make them believe whatever you want), or worse, enjoy the "challenge" of making a dom into a sub


This is addressed not only to LA, but to all of the women who posted that there is something in some Dominant males (I hope in ONLY some, surely not all) that wants to overpower the Dominant female, like a super conquest.

Of course this happens with Dommes, too.  If part of a person's "power sharing" kink is making someone into something other than what they say they are, then the person is going to seek out situations to try to flex this rather warped muscle.

Taken to an extreme, then, Male Dominants should be focusing their attentions on Lesbian Dommes.  Right?  I mean if the real kink is getting someone to "switch gears", why mess with hetero Dommes?  ( LaTigress, you are about to get a whole new world of email *GRIN*)

... or...wait...NO...its coming to Me now...not Lesbians.  NO...its.....Gay Male Tops.  YES!  By this logic, what a straight, male, exclusively hetero, exclusively Dom REALLY secretly wants is ... a stone gay male TOP that he can bend to his will.  or...uh...die trying.

Right?

This is going to make summer evenings down on Halsted Street SO much more interesting.  Thank you for the insight.

...or wait...maybe...its not anyone sexually active at all   yah,  its ...yes...its NUNS.  OH LA, thank you for your insight!  I see it now.  ...that's the ticket.  What would show the power of a straight male Dom better than to seduce a nun into being His submissive?  And that leaves Lesbian Tops chasing the priesthoo....you know, I think I need some lemonade, and a nap.

E.




ScrappinKitty -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 1:56:13 PM)

I can not resist answering to this thread!
 
First of all...im a switch and if you look in my profile it challenges a male to be D/s.  This is due to the power exchange that I am looking for.  Normally I am a Dom towards most men, but on occasion there is a man that can pull my submissive side that I desperately seek.  I know that I dont like the power over men, however, with all my strengths and a career of working closely with men in management position that I know how to easily manipulate them mentally.  So, a male Dom that has the mental strengths is the greatest mental excitment that I could seek.  It has nothing to do with physical strengths of bitch slapping a man or vice versa.   The fact of watching the relationship grow strong and having the power exchange happen can be the most rewarding experience .
 
 
SsK
 




Focus50 -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 3:55:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

I believe for every Dominant male there is a woman who can put him in touch with his submissive side as I believe as humans we have both traits within ourselves. I know for my my sub who is an ex Gorean Master, all he needed was for someone to show him that the so called *natural order* isn't so natural at all.

Obviously you're entitled to your beliefs but I do not nor ever have reacted well to dominant women attempting to assert themselves at me, even subtly.  I respect that strangers aren't to initially know but in a personal or sexual sense, dominant women bring out the same reaction in me as being propositioned by a gay would.  Not that its happened more than a handful of times in my entire life, and none in the last 20 years or so, but only my first refusal will be polite....
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I play nice with most folks, but I've had 3  Alpha males think they were going to manhandle me, one was drunk and tried to force himself on me, I broke his nose for him. The second attempted to to force me into a car after I broke up with him but my drawn gun sent him packing, the third didn't like the fact that I was standing up for women's issues and tried to bitchslap me, for which he got broken ribs. Women can play just as dirty if pushed. I prefer not to go that route but if I'm pushed and have to defend myself, oh yeah I'm ready to play hardball.

Lol, I can't help thinking that if I posted this, I'd be accused of overdosing on testosterone!
 
Focus.




mp072004 -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 4:00:03 PM)

Some heterosexual men primarily identify as dominant, but want to submit or bottom occasionally. I'm skeptical of this when it occurs in a single-line email, but I know a few men who were sincere.

Some heterosexual men who identify as dominant want to be friends or "just talk." More often than not, this happens after I've said "Sorry, we're not well suited for one another, as, er, we're both dominant, and I'm not looking for a co-top." I enjoy the company of a couple of local dominant men, and I count them among my friends, but usually, when a man tells me he wants to be friends after I have rejected his advances, it means that he wants titillating conversation. Strangely, when I bring up heavy CBT, their interest in talking diminishes.

I don't get nearly as many blatant "All women are submissive therefore you must submit to me kneel slave" emails as it seems others do. Maybe I should feel left out.

Some dominant women thrive in egalitarian relationships with dominant men. I don't know anyone who has actually sought this out. People in this arrangement are almost invariably poly, though they construct their other relationships in differing ways. Usually, as in most nominally equal relationships, one person emerges as dominant to the other. This is rarely explicitly negotiated, just like it's rarely negotiated in 'vanilla' relationships, and it rarely involves whips and chains.

Monica




Focus50 -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 4:01:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ScrappinKitty

I can not resist answering to this thread!
 
First of all...im a switch and if you look in my profile it challenges a male to be D/s.  This is due to the power exchange that I am looking for.  Normally I am a Dom towards most men, but on occasion there is a man that can pull my submissive side that I desperately seek.  I know that I dont like the power over men, however, with all my strengths and a career of working closely with men in management position that I know how to easily manipulate them mentally.  So, a male Dom that has the mental strengths is the greatest mental excitment that I could seek.  It has nothing to do with physical strengths of bitch slapping a man or vice versa.   The fact of watching the relationship grow strong and having the power exchange happen can be the most rewarding experience .

Not that I relate to switching but this is a pretty good post! [;)]
 
Focus. 




mons -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 7:10:15 PM)

greetings to all master dommes and all others
 
i wrote that post with out thinking there is master i would fall on my kness to he knows whom he is i sound boosteful and proud i meant this for another master who would not take no for an answer oh i do hope the master i spoke of will forgive me oh ladise it is true i found that one master i would go to i wrote that when i did not have too mcuh sleep but i do ask that qyuestion and this master i spoke of i went to him he never chased me i am still a domme and proud to be on but well he is something i never meant before someone i trust with my life and kind but so strong and gentle i know it seem i back tracked but this is me i can not lie to everyone. so to this master may i say i am so sorry i did not mean you i adore you so will you let me know? i am a domme but i am human through and through .
but i do thank all who wrote and yes i too like to speak with the master and dom so much information they have experince too so thank all
 
mons ( master please write me )




MisPandora -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 7:25:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzTlaz
Ok...on topic.   I'm a Domme and I love to play with submissive men but to be honest I'm not attracted to them for LTRs.  I am attracted to Doms and switches...not because I want to dominate them but because I enjoy the interaction.  There are quite a few Dominant couples out there, and they manage their need to dominate by playing with others....all above board and legit.

Perfect example of how we as a dominant woman could totally miss the intention of the interest from a dom male :-)




LadyHugs -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 8:03:21 PM)

Dear MH00314--

Sounds like the chap's exact lines from North Carolina -- Needs a fist up his tail pipe if you know what I mean (without naming the chap)

Respectfully submitted with a bit of wit,
Lady Hugs




LadyHugs -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 8:41:27 PM)

Dear mons, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Very interesting but, a rather common behavior in the scene and or lifestyle.
 
Several "dominant" men or self titled men who identify as a master, have approached me, much as one posted about on this thread, that they read my profile and I have permission to approach, only to be harassed when I didn't hint of submission.  Most of such sorts, are just bedroom dominants and couldn't flog themselves out of a wet paper bag--let alone deal with a female dominant that can flog with a total of six floggers at once.
 
I have also had men who identify as Masters, dominant men who approach me due to the skills, knowledge and information I have, willing to share and work with them, where other males hold their information, skills and such close to the vest.  So, men approach and we talk 'shop' per se.  Mentoring, giving them instruction and or such, I have had more men approach me to learn than women.
 
I do appreciate the gentlemen dominants that have posted on this topic, in regard to the unshared attitude by some, who feel women are not worth the breath in their body and are forever designed by myth, religion, civilization and body itself to be subserviant.  It takes spine to seperate gentlemen from bias males, when it comes to the attitude of women in the role of 'dominant.'
 
That said, I do understand that some women transmit the "courting" attitude and behavior, which sends signals to men that they're looking to be conquered.  Some women don't realize that this behavior entices men into something that just ends up hurting both parties.  So, it might be worth thinking on the lady's part on what signals they are giving when 'teasing.'  Although some men will be as primative as what is proffered as "knuckle draggers," will attempt to dominate a woman who is dominant; most keen male dominants will see in posture, attitude to which is serious but, pleasant and respectful as a dominant woman.  Most do their best to be a gentleman and protective of women who identify as a lady and a dominant.
 
As for the thrill of the hunt, I am of the belief that dominants regardless of gender and gender preferences enjoy that aspect.  I also feel that when dominants are in an assembly, regardless if two or two-thousand at once; as long as there is no posturing and trying to out dominate each other, there will be peace.  It is called mutual respect.
 
As far as those styles of BDSM, such as Gorean; to which it is designed by book rooted philosophy as being patriarch domination.  However, in my personal dealings with those who practice both BDSM and Gorean or one or the other, I have been treated with much respect.
But, I must add--I give respect regardless if it is returned.  Sometimes, there is more strength in being respectful and speak with logic, rather than emotions and or personal attacks.  Perhaps, this is what IronBear was attempting to convey, as mastery and domination is gender neutral, class neutral and racially neutral, as well as style neutral.
 
In summary, the 'intent' as well as the 'tone' of the pursuit by a male dominant of a female dominant, should create the premise of which to place the pursuit as negative or positive and or disrespectful and or respectful.  Once established, only those chased have the 'choice' of giving their power to the other or keep it, maintain it and guard it.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration with a bit of wit,
Lady Hugs




TxBlkMistress -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 8:41:58 PM)

I get Doms that think they can "turn" me as well.  I, however, always get the ones that are less that nice about it.  If we were chatting and exchanging ideas and it came up that's one thing.  I would politely say I'm not interested and leave it at that.  I've only had one Dom that made me an offer to think about, but it wasn't one submitting to the other, it was being equal and bringing in submissives

My problem is when I'm approached like I don't know my own mind.  One asked me, well how do you know you are Domme?.  Some idiots barks orders, then tries to tell me I can't be a true Domme unless I submit to him first....um...yeah...lol 




FangsNfeet -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/12/2006 8:52:09 PM)

Well, what do you mean by a Dom chasing a Domme?
Does the Dom want the Domme to submit or is he chasing her for just sex and a relationship?
Some Doms are known for being in a relationship with a Domme because of these two reasons.

1. They do not like to inflict pain on someone they love.

2. Other like having someone who thinks sadistic like them. 


Anyhow, if the Dom is trying to find a Domme that will submit to him, it's all for the challenge. It's like a guy trying to get laid by a lesbian. Why do they try it? That can be answered with many suggestions envolving Ego and Self Esteem.




DoctorDubious -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/13/2006 5:40:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

I've long got past the stage of thinking every female is a slave, however, If I am confronted by a female who treats every male like he is a worthless piece of garbage, makes every attempt to dominate all men, or attempts to play rough house with me, then all bets are off and she'll find that I'm a celtic barbarian who will, if she tries to get physicall, take a handfull of hair and bitchslap her to her knees untill she appologies and behaves herself in an adult and good mannered manner. (Frankly, if the law allowed, I'd lock steel about her throad and chain her to the dunny for a day or so). Certainly there can be the thrill oif the hunt and a trophy but personally I've grown out of that stage some 30 years ago..

Having said this, I do beieve that for every woman there is at least one man sonewhere in the world, whose personality of other charactistics will at the very least make her uncomfortably aware of her femaleness, her sexuality and there will be at least a fleeting thought about submitting to him on her knees as a slave..

That many dominant women never run accross this man is why they have stayed as they are..

It is all part of nature and being human..

However I have seen more than one dominant woman submit to a dominant male and do so proudly, happily and without drama. The ones I know have still solid relationships.. I just let other people be who they are provided they are not rocking my boat or causing disruptions.. Everyone is welcome to their choices.. 



Hey all....


>>It is all part of nature and being human..

Well, there are sufficient examples in the animal kingdom
where the female is physically stronger, and behaviourally dominant,
to be reasonably sure it's not "all a part of nature".

Humans are mammals.
And there are no substantial examples
that I know of where a female mammal is
behaviourally dominant ... but some herd behaviours come close....




>>there is at least one man sonewhere in the world, whose personality of other charactistics will at the very least make her uncomfortably aware of her femaleness, her sexuality and there will be at least a fleeting thought about submitting to him on her knees as a slave..

That is a very interesting thought,
though I'm not sure I'd agree with the
absolute nature of the "for every woman" ...

I wonder,
do you think there is one woman,
somewhere .... to whom you would have fleeting thoughts,
(... the same fleeting thoughts you ascibe to FOR EVERY WOMAN)
of crawling on your belly towards her feet, to serve her every whim?

Personally,
I'm always a little skeptical of absolute claims,
and  suspect they may be as dubious as many of my own wacky ideas...

DD





MzTlaz -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/14/2006 7:50:09 AM)

I don't think I miss the intentions of any Dom who approaches me. I read people pretty well and I'm incredibly direct about my own intentions.  I'm also not threatened by the approach of a Dom as it seems a lot of Dommes are....I don't do the "how dare he!" routine....I just find it amusing.

I love the Dom/Domme dance...example....date with a Dom, I wear a collar to tease him....he gets me back by deflty slipping a leash on it...lol!   I tug on the leash and tell him messing with my collar requires a kiss...he obeys :)  Later comments:
Dom : "Do you find me half as attractive as I find you?"
Me : "Yeah, about half"

There's just something about the sassy Dual Dominant relationship that I don't find with a sub....though I am still open to the possibility.




IronBear -> RE: master chasing dommes (8/14/2006 8:45:50 AM)

quote:

That is a very interesting thought,
though I'm not sure I'd agree with the
absolute nature of the "for every woman" ...

I wonder,
do you think there is one woman,
somewhere .... to whom you would have fleeting thoughts,

(... the same fleeting thoughts you ascibe to FOR EVERY WOMAN)
of crawling on your belly towards her feet, to serve her every whim?


I agree about absolutes that was an error of mine for not properly checking before posting. I had intended to say "almost every woman"

Regarding your question to me (highlited in blue), yes I'm sure there is. My Maternal Grandmother had that effect on my as a child but then again when she entered the room she could make most people feel that they should at least kneel, but perhaps tht may have been because they belonged to a past generation used to aristocracy and court manners thus those many who bowed to her when greeting may just have been being polite. However should such a woman cross my path and I feel the urge, I can assure you that a stronger urge will prevail. The urge to shoot her... [8D]




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