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PAVANE -> multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 3:56:49 AM)
hi i have started using a multi tailed whip on my sub. its the first time i have used one ( a whip that is not a sub). no matter how careful i am there always seems to be a stray strand whip goes off at random and not where i aimed for. last time while whipping her shoulders one whipped round and hit her eye. no damage was done fortunatley. also no matter what point i aim for i cant seem to stop the strands whipping round her sides and catching her. so advice please on how to control the whip properly. how to aim it etc.

TahoeSadist -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 7:28:54 AM)
It's hard to diagnose without seeing your style in action, but I'll pass on my thoughts. I'm assuming you are talking about a flogger here. If so, I have found that many are somewhat sensitive to "swing speed", if you will. This is where practice, without using a person as a target will help. You want a space where you can swing smoothly, and concentrate on varying the speed of the whip. Watch the falls, and see what they are doing. You will find a velocity at which they will all stick together. Play with that awhile. See what happens with a slower delivery: do the falls spray? Can you control that at will? If so, that's a variation you can use in play, as it creates a different sensation from a heavy stroke. One of my personal favorite swings is a "figure eight" motion, where you have a forehand and a backhand swing, but the flogger continuously moves in a set direction. It's easy on my arms, and gives a lot of choices as I can actually land the forehand, the backhand, both, neither, at will. As to aiming, the problem you're describing is "wrap". This is a combination aim and distance problem. As a general rule, I like to land the last 3 or 4 inches of fall on target (this too is variable for varied sensations, but this is a basic). To do so, you will want to have practiced your swing so you know what speed keeps all the falls together, then you pick your distance from the target based on how much of the fall you want to land. Remember, the implement is just an extension of you so this is an exercise in control of it, and yourself. Your distance (with a repeatable swing) controls how much whip contacts the target. It also has an effect on the target spot too: too close and you'll tend to strike high with an overhand swing, or left or right with a sideways stroke. Your body position will help you target as well, so if you have a smooth repeatable stroke (that does keep popping up, eh?) then while doing it, move your feet. Move a small amount from side to side. Watch what happens. Move your body up and down, kneel, all the time observe what the whip is doing. There is a lot more that you can work on, and I'm sure others will have other thoughts. Have fun with it. Eric

porcelaine -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 7:52:47 AM)
You may find the following resources of assistance: Flogging: The Basics and Beyond By: Joseph Bean ISBN: 1887895027 This package includes a seventy minute video that demonstrates the techniques mentioned in the book. For more information, you may view the url here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1887895027/sr=8-1/qid=1155652833/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-2007682-0377442?ie=UTF8 I would also recommend his classic publication for supplementary reading: Flogging By: Joseph Bean ISBN: 1890159271 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1890159271/sr=1-10/qid=1155653292/ref=sr_1_10/103-2007682-0377442?ie=UTF8&s=books porcelaine

Bearlee -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 8:08:20 AM)
Another thing I would strongly suggest is practicing on PILLOWS until you have some control over your whips. Good lord, man...you don't want to perminantly injure your girl! ...no point in breaking your toys; and all that!!! You might look into a club, too. Go WATCH some folks; most will give you a few pointers AFTER their scenes. Bring your whip... talk to people... ask for advice. Good luck!

SCORPIOXXX -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 8:13:17 AM)
Excellent advice! The figure 8 motion is a great one, I agree... And of course: yes, practice makes perfect (on that pillow)!

PAVANE -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 2:27:18 PM)
although i am replying to porcelaine this is to thank everyone who has given their time and advice. thanks.

Slipstreme -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/15/2006 4:03:47 PM)
I used to have a Eureka box from my new vaccuum cleaner, well, I found that going after a visual target was the easiest way to go, rather than using the whole pillow thing, and thus aimed for the E in Eureka, and didn't bring any of my floggers, whips, canes to anyone's flesh until I could target with pinpoint accuracy. It seems to have worked. I do similar targeting exercises when using a new weapon. I know for me, having a visual cue on the target helps me push the rest of the target into negative space, so I can learn how to aim better. IE: say your target is a flowered sheet or pillow, aim for the flowers, instead of the larger target, the pillow itself.

Viper001 -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/21/2006 9:52:41 AM)
Having tutored many locals re: flogging/singletails, I can easily agree with all the comments and recommendations made. One item that wasn't mentioned, however, is the whip itself. [:D] The quality of the toy itself can influence accuracy and ease-of-use. Examine your new flogger critically. Is the fall (tails) made of a quality material with a consistent thickness in all the tails? Are the tails trimmed to matching length? Is the cover knot tight and even, so that the fall exits as a solid bundle of leather? When you spread the fall at the handle, is there an empty space in the middle of the fall bundle (and/or can you see the end of a wood dowel) instead of a solid cylinder of leather? Is it well-balanced so that you're not fighting with the weight of the fall - on top of all the other things you're trying to learn? I've observed many novices' eyes light up in surprise, and an immediate improvement in their "swing", simply by handing them a better-quality whip. Just some food for thought. [;)] Regards, Viper_001

Slipstreme -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/21/2006 11:15:31 AM)
Yeah I need to learn how to counterbalance my handles, then figure out how to braid leather to make them all pretty like. I know mine can use work.

QuietDom -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/21/2006 12:46:05 PM)
One more voice chiming in here on the figure-8 swing. It's definitely my favourite; when using appropriately sized toys (some are too large for an effective fig-8) I seldom use any other swing.

Jasmyn -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/21/2006 10:48:39 PM)
If you're intending to do a long flogging (or caning) session, a handy tip I learnt, was to have the sub lying down and place pillows on either side of them to minimise any unintentional wrapping. Another one I like to do, can take a bit of getting into the swing of it (lol pun intended) ... flogging with one flogger over the body... them kneeling on a chair or couch with legs spread, or standing legs spread ...and holding a second flogger in your other hand just lightly tap their crotch with it, in time with say every fourth or fifth swing of the flogger you are using on their body...teasing the sweet spot. Often they are concerntrating on the ministrings of your main flogger, only realising you're using a second flogger when their dripping between their legs. I like the figure of 8, but prefer to mix up strokes and rythymns with a variety of backhand, overhand, strokes, etc ... making the fourth or fifth strike harder than than the three or four previous strokes.

MisPandora -> RE: multi tailed whip practice (8/21/2006 10:49:15 PM)
I have to agree with Viper on the QUALITY of (what we all know you're referring to is a flogger). One of the reasons for those stray falls could be that it's not cut right, or that your falls are actually made out of mismatching material. If they're of different material (deer and suede, for instance), they are different weights and fly at different speeds. While it looks cool on a rack and might even feel cool in your hand, it flogs and flies like crap.

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