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RE: Slave Abuse & Interference - 8/18/2006 1:17:10 AM

mommysgoodgirl

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom
The worst stuff is the emotional manipulation, or at least that is the most abusive stuff that is common. Dangling a collar/relationship over someone to get them to do what you want while you shop around for a better woman is pretty common.

I agree with CrappyDom that the emotional manipulation and abuse is even worse. My former domme constantly held over me the threat of abandonment [once she had moved me from my home state and became isolated living near her and had me delete my savings and become financially reliant on her]. And, this was not abandonment for huge deal-breaking things, but as punishment for forgetfulness on my part [missing something on my list of 88 or so things to do for her daily]. I am grateful that I was able to break free of that situation, but it was very difficult to do.

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RE: Slave Abuse & Interference - 8/18/2006 2:27:00 AM

Wolfie648

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ORIGINAL: Passion357

Greetings, Masters,

Where do you draw the line between slave training/teaching and abuse?
I know there are many Masters out there who refuse to interfere with the inner workings of a Master slave relationship. I understand the concerns of interfereing with a Master and his slave.
However, where is the line drawn? When do you consider what he is doing wrong and see the need to stand up and tell him he is crossing a line that brings you, as a Man, as a fellow Master, to a point you feel the slave is being abused?

Goreans- especially Goreans,

As a Gorean Master, when is it time to tell a fellow Gorean that he need take caution in his dealing with his slave? When is it right to step up and face him with your concerns? Is there a point where you feel a fellow Master has breached the All Gorean Contract that is Honour?

My concerns are genuine and passionate and meant to be taken as such, not disrespectfully at all. I just felt I had to know.
Thank you ALL for reading this. Thank you to those of you who take the time to respond.

Well Wishes,
~mate'~

I'd ask on the gorean channel (I assume there is still one - I'm not gorean so I don't know - never was one for other people's rules ;-)

D (owner of j).

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Possibly.

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RE: Slave Abuse & Interference - 8/18/2006 5:49:02 AM

SirDarkside357

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Well, I'm glad you finally said it wasn't about you....... I thought the black-outs had come back WEG.

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RE: Slave Abuse & Interference - 8/19/2006 1:00:33 AM

masterhyyde

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What goes on between a master and his slave is their concern.

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RE: Slave Abuse & Interference - 8/19/2006 1:39:30 AM

mons

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greeting masters

it just kills me so much when hear another woman say the woman should say something or they stay they are the one to let the abuse go on i am so mad luckya what are you thinking? you tell me. I was beaten by a man who was 100 lbs over me he tried to kill me three times. choking, pillow over my head, push trhough a glass window. now in your mind i was ok to be beaten i stood . but luckya do you think maybe just maybe i was so frighten to death toleave i had no where to go no one to tell my shame was so great to be a fool to think he would never hit me so hard i had whiplash, but oh no you know how it is to be beaten and take off with out a mark on you, so tell me explain yourself and yes you should explain yourself to many woman who write here and are beaten and yoru do not know how. well i was rape so many times i hate the thought of a black man and i am a black woman to touch me to this day.

who are you to judge these women, what have you had in experince that would make me say oh luckya i am sorry i spoke this way. i would only if you can understand what we women go through. have you never seen a picture of a woman cut, beaten so badly she had her face misshaped. this is what happen oh yes staying i stay because of my shame my fear for my life but when i could leave three years laters i did and never looked back he would had kill me i had not one doubt of this

you would speak to them to see how they felt well that is just wonderful and then what?

think of this once you seen someone beaten to death by a man be he master or dom it looks all the same. help a women it would not hurt so what this is a master,, but would anyone of you let someone beat a weaker person to death just because you are not wanting to hurt his honor or get involve. i wish someone had saw and i am a lightskinned black woman, the mark on my arms my face but ..........................................

luckya i went over board i do say sorry i hope you expected it and master i hope all of you do too

mons

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RE: Slave Abuse & Interference - 8/19/2006 9:57:32 AM

Midearthtrainer

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ORIGINAL: bluelace001

Unfortunately, those who get abused may be too scared to leave, or feel they have no way out. It does happen, so would the dominants then still sit back and say nothing? I ask because i know in the old gaurd, from what Master has described to me, dominants basiclly police each other. (now you all got me curiuos)
bluelace_V
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That is why we have www.denverfold.org to help Dom/Dommes with the lifestyle/relationship/education issues. Whether it is mentoring or...

As for the Gorean issue, I would elicite Master's opinion on this. At the very least it makes Him aware that there may be things going on that maybe overlooked. There have been other posts that talk about NOT being able to get out, because of x,y,z. This maybe true, but if the situation warrants it, they will find a way. Even if it is to walk with just the clothes on her back. Most of the abusive relationships that I have been privey to have ALL involved emotional abuse,esclating from there. The girls have had to rely on their savy, to set up an escape.
If I saw something that looked wrong and it was not the first or second time, YES, I would ask the Master what it was that they were doing. Communication is a good thing, isolation is not.
I have acted as a protector for a kajira while she was with a new House. Included phone calls and a visit, just to be sure that she was protected. I do not hesitate when My instincts click in and I find out the truth. Can and has it caused problems, yes, but those people know I will get to the truth and I mean what I say. I still have someone who will not openly talk to me, because of a discussion that a group of us Goreans had, in which the question he asked me was.. What would you do if I used your slave without your permission? I calmly replied, I'd slit your throat where you stand.

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