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SavageFaerie -> I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 12:11:53 AM)

Okay after having be thrashed to bloody hell downstairs in the forum I am really concerned by the chain of events of which I have been thrust into.

My reputation is at stake here and if I was not so damn hard to find in real life, probably my life.

The is a person on these forums that I have most of the proof uses the term Dom to con or entice woman into his grubby little hands.

I have not been in these forums for long. But I have been a member of collarme for several years and I have probably read about every thread there is hashed and reshashed. I have learned about this lifestyle from some of the top well respected members of this lifestyle. By the people who are active in the Top bdsm group in the nation, which is in NYC. I am personal real life friends with the person in charge of the Novices for TES in NYC. I am very informed. I can give references about my knowledge regarding the lifestyle.   Hell I could write a book if I had to.  But John Warren has pretty much covered it.

Within two weeks after posting my first post.

Girl one comes to me complaining about an ex Dom who wont leave her alone and continues baiting her.  But he says keep us a secret. My advise was avoid him.
Girl two comes to me I am under a training collar to this Dom and he is ignoring me what do I do? He says to keep my training a secret. My advise was cut him lose he is no good.
Girl three's Master died. The same night he offers her a collar of protection. My advise was there is really not such thing, bewary.

By this time I am pretty much getting a clue

Girl four I come right out and ask has this Dom offered to help with your plight as she had just had a very bad Dom experience. She said he offered her a place to stay.  I told her beware.

Dom then announces in the forums he is about to be set on the streets and homeless.
I like an idiot try to help. I know stupid me.  But I did gain his trust for a short time.  I also told him I had advised each of these girl to stay away. He had a good laugh on how crafty I was.

Girl five hears his plead for friends and his plight and sends this man money....to me alot.
She could not afford it, but thought she might be doing good. I blame myself for my stupidity and gut instinct in being taken for a fool and thinking he was really headed for the street.
I know stupid me.

Girl six  under a condideration, He tells me about her but again the relationship is a secret, that I am the first person to know, and encourages me to befriend her I do. I advise her to beware

Girl seven contacts me last night guess what?  Mr Domly himself is involved. Its a secret.

So now and I just so insane that I here that this is just drama?

This so called Dom has now assumed me of being the con, have slurred my good name and said he reported ME to the fbi

this so called Dom has admitted to serveral arrests on the public forum here.

So I seriously ask you, who is the bad person here.

Me or him?

What do I do about it?

Pretend it never happened? Where can I go with this information. I know where he lives.
I have confirmed his address.

I need help with this matter.


edited to apoligise for my bad grammer and spelling and all that.



Owned1 -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 12:22:14 AM)

It is truly hard to know what to do in this situation.  This is online, we all need to be cautious.  Personally unless I know someone outside of here they know only what I give them information wise which is very little.

In your situation I feel you have done the best you can.  Strongly enforce with each of the women involved to be aware, you could even go onto explain what you have heard.

In regard to slurring your name, I have read most threads on here and have not seen your name slurred.  For those who have half a brain they get to know someone from thier posts.  I have yet to see a post from you that is less than respectful and offering assistance.  We are who we are and the gossip mongers cannot take that from us.

Reporting to the fbi, what can he report you for?  There is nothing you have mentioned that is reportable from my perspective.  I am sure the fbi has a bit more to tackle than online sour grapes.

I am sure some will suggest naming the male (I did not use Dom intentionally) in question, however this will do nothing as we all know how easy it is to create a new account with completely different information.

As long as you know his current name you can continue to be a resource for those women who may become involved with him.

I do not see you as being a bad person, I see you as someone who is interested in others and truly tries to help.

Dont let the cyber drama drag you down,  this is only one part of your life.  From reading your posts I can clearly see you have more to life than this type world.

Feel free to contact me if you just need to talk/type.

Owned



nefertari -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 12:35:24 AM)

I don't understand why you keep this going.  You had a loooong drama filled thread on the other board and the both of you ended up looking childish.    I understand that some things really get to us, but we have to realize when it's time to stop.  That time has come and gone.



SavageFaerie -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 12:40:25 AM)

Owned

Here is the thread I was referring to

http://www.collarchat.com/m_542889/tm.htm
Its title Here is My Deal.

he has also thrashed me in the complaint thread of Random Stupidity

I dont care if my reputation is in shambles. What I care about is how many more are there.
In collar me and other bdsm website and chatrooms.

I have some proof. If I had the money to order a copy of his admitted criminal record, I would already have it in my hands. This man readily admits he has been arrested. The heresay I have been given about whatkind of person he is in real life at this point is indeed heresay, but that heresay points the same finger I am pointing. She just hasnt been online since this all happened. I will call her tomorrow and advise her what has transpired perhaps she will come forward herself.

I am reporting all this to support of this site



mistoferin -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 12:40:48 AM)

Why did you choose to bring this upstairs? You weren't reaching a wide enough audience in the STUPIDITY section? I'd say this shit is a bit off topic for this section....although I guess it doesn't really fit in stupidity either as it's even too assinine for that section. The two of you are making complete asses of yourselves and you are acting like immature children. I hope that the moderators get on the ball here and throw this shit in the trash where it belongs so we all don't have to keep being subjected to the stench. I don't get this irate very often on these boards....but this shit takes the cake.



Arpig -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 12:56:30 AM)

quote:

Where can I go with this information.

Nowhere..what information do you have?
Has a crime been committed? If so, contact the police.
Have you been insulted? If so, get over it.

He admits to having been arrested...so the fuck what? What difference does it make if he has been arrested? Guess what, he's not alone. A hell of a lot of people have been arrested, myself several times, the first when I was 17, Hell I have been arrested in 4 different countries!

You keep alluding to "proof"...proof of a crime? call the police. Proof of a crime for which he was arrested in the past? Then shut the fuck up. Who cares?

What seems to ellude you Sage, is that nobody other than the two of you really gives a damn about all this crap.



SavageFaerie -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:00:15 AM)

Because this really happens to real people

I will not stand down on this issue in general
I find it funny that so many are quick to judge, but this topic sans any particular person has been hashed and reshashed.u
I could pull topic threads and post those here.
About online predators
About emotional abuse
About people posing as Doms.
But I really shouldnt have to.
I have a voice in this community by right of being a part of it.

And you people only suggest I be quiet?
Yes this is MY drama and stupid damn me. I care about other people
So go ahead and just shoot me now.

Plain and simple I have suffered emotional and physical abuse, I have paid dearly for letting it happen to me.

Why should I just sit back and happily let it happen to others.

Women have died at the hands of predators
Women have been raped
Women have been taken and never been seen of again

And we are just supposed to sit back and watch?

There are laws against this sort of thing.

I am not talking about this one person.

I am taking about factual cases.

So excuse me if I dont want to shut up and mind my own business.

That alone is my problem not yours.

Anyone and everyone knows how to use block. Use it on me.
Then go about your happy bdsm lives.



popeye1250 -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:02:15 AM)

Savage, there's lowlifes in this lifestyle just like in the vanilla lifestyle.



mistoferin -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:08:06 AM)

This is not about rape and murder and kidnapping....this is about online drama bullshit and to have you try to associate the two is insulting. As someone who has worked the better part of my life working to help victims of violence and abuse I am appalled that you would even attempt to put this crap in the same category. I have reported your post to the Mods and I hope that they put a stop to this. Actually, I hope that it causes them to take a good look at the supreme waste of bandwith that Stupidity section has become over the course of the last few months.



SavageFaerie -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:10:26 AM)

MY son was raped by a registered child sex offender

I WILL not be silent.

MY granchildrens father is this mans best friend. Their father was sexual abused by his uncle who is also a registered sex offender.

I WILL not be silent

I suffer from
Depression
PTSD
Panic Disorder

Both of my grown children have attempted to kill themselves.

I WILL NOT BE SILENT



captiveplatypus -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:12:34 AM)

I don't know, if he is pillaging off seven girls at once, I think that is a considerable problem.



NastyDaddy -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:15:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Why did you choose to bring this upstairs?



chi-ching...... the answer is clearly stated with overt pride in one of the many other all day sucker threads....
"I am the Fucking Drama Queen of the world"      [sm=mrpuffy.gif]

(also reminiscent of fatal attraction)





mistoferin -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:18:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus
I don't know, if he is pillaging off seven girls at once, I think that is a considerable problem.


Pillaging????????  Are these 7 girls not responsible adults who can say no for themselves???



captiveplatypus -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:23:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus
I don't know, if he is pillaging off seven girls at once, I think that is a considerable problem.


Pillaging????????  Are these 7 girls not responsible adults who can say no for themselves???



does that excuse the actions of serially manipulative and malicious individuals?



mistoferin -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:30:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus
I don't know, if he is pillaging off seven girls at once, I think that is a considerable problem.


Pillaging????????  Are these 7 girls not responsible adults who can say no for themselves???



does that excuse the actions of serially manipulative and malicious individuals?


This thread's whole purpose was to be manipulative and malicious....who's kidding who here?



captiveplatypus -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:34:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus
I don't know, if he is pillaging off seven girls at once, I think that is a considerable problem.


Pillaging????????  Are these 7 girls not responsible adults who can say no for themselves???



does that excuse the actions of serially manipulative and malicious individuals?


This thread's whole purpose was to be manipulative and malicious....who's kidding who here?


That doesn't answer my question.



SavageFaerie -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:39:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

This is not about rape and murder and kidnapping....this is about online drama bullshit and to have you try to associate the two is insulting. As someone who has worked the better part of my life working to help victims of violence and abuse I am appalled that you would even attempt to put this crap in the same category. I have reported your post to the Mods and I hope that they put a stop to this. Actually, I hope that it causes them to take a good look at the supreme waste of bandwith that Stupidity section has become over the course of the last few months.


So where were you when the authorities and people such as yourself when my children were fighting for their lives.

There is no justice. Plain and simple. There is no help, trust me I have tried.

You come counsel my children. Goodness know no one else will.

Because frankly this country as a whole does not seem to care.

And I honestly find that sad.

I watched the news about the girl whom the amber alert law was created.
I watched the search.

She lived in the same county I lived in.
This law does not stop predators.

So when does it end?

At my back door or perhaps yours?

They have already knocked on mine....its an ugly world out there.

And personally I could give a flying flip if I have been reported.
I have been slapped before.

this goes way beyond what started it.

You know it and I know it.

So go take your holier than thou self and go about your merry way.

At this point I could care less.



mistoferin -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:42:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: captiveplatypus
That doesn't answer my question.


Do you know there has been serial pillaging, manipulation and maliciousness? I sure don't. All I know is there has been a bunch of slanderous crap being slung both ways on an internet message board. I see alot of manipulation and maliciousness going on but it seems to be confined to the OP and the accused.



mistoferin -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 1:52:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SavageFaerie

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

This is not about rape and murder and kidnapping....this is about online drama bullshit and to have you try to associate the two is insulting. As someone who has worked the better part of my life working to help victims of violence and abuse I am appalled that you would even attempt to put this crap in the same category. I have reported your post to the Mods and I hope that they put a stop to this. Actually, I hope that it causes them to take a good look at the supreme waste of bandwith that Stupidity section has become over the course of the last few months.


So where were you when the authorities and people such as yourself when my children were fighting for their lives.

There is no justice. Plain and simple. There is no help, trust me I have tried.

You come counsel my children. Goodness know no one else will.

Because frankly this country as a whole does not seem to care.

And I honestly find that sad.

I watched the news about the girl whom the amber alert law was created.
I watched the search.

She lived in the same county I lived in.
This law does not stop predators.

So when does it end?

At my back door or perhaps yours?

They have already knocked on mine....its an ugly world out there.

And personally I could give a flying flip if I have been reported.
I have been slapped before.

this goes way beyond what started it.

You know it and I know it.

So go take your holier than thou self and go about your merry way.

At this point I could care less.


So what now...I'm responsible for whatever happened to you and your kids? I'm responsible for the injustice in the criminal justice system? For the girl the who the amber alert law was created for? For the fact that the law doesn't stop predators? The man you are attacking in this thread is responsible?

You are ranting like a lunatic and not making any sense at all....what in the Sam Hill has any of this got to do with your kids? What has any of this got to do with whatever happened to you that has caused you to keep yourself locked up in your house? You say there is no help...you have looked....I would continue looking...you need it.



gooddogbenji -> RE: I am very disturbed by online predators (8/19/2006 2:01:45 AM)

Nana!  Nana!  The soaps are back on!

Yours,


benji

Edited because my original response was too serious for this time of day.



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