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RE: Ideal fantasy top? Ideal fantasy bottom? - 8/22/2006 5:41:43 PM   
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I took it to heart because I do not enjoy insulting people as a part of my daily life and I am not particularly proud of all my posts on this thread so I may be a little sensitive.. sorry

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RE: Ideal fantasy top? Ideal fantasy bottom? - 8/22/2006 7:16:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Hi Sunshine,
 
>  I don't think I'd be with a "real" sexual sadist.  I want someone who is in control all the time.
 
I'm a real sexual sadist, and I am in control all the time, and have been my entire life.  Even
when I was a child, I was always responsible.  That doesn't mean I wasn't a little wild. I 
still am.  But I always know where to draw the line.   I am not driven by my emotions or
my sexual cravings, but by my intellect and by my principles.  I indulge my sexual cravings
if I find a willing partner.  I do get pleasure from giving pleasure, but I get more pleasure
from giving real pain.   Yet, I don't engage in edge play.  I never draw blood.  I don't use
needles or puncture the skin.  I don't do anything that would leave permanent marks.  
I don't engage in scat.  


Trust me WTH, if this is the case, you do not qualify as a "real"sexual sadist.  By using the term "real", I suppose I should have defined it as "extreme".  I have the unfortunate job of dealing with extreme sexual sadists and their victims.  They are NOT in control.  They HURT other people non-consensually and the prisons are full of them. You can go visit a few hundred up at the Avenel Sex Offenders Unit in Rahway NJ.  Trust me, you have no clue.
 
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Some Doms are emotional sadists.  I on the other hand can't
tolerate anyone
experiencing emotional pain.  I feel the emotional pain of others as acutely as
they do.  So, the last thing I would want to cause anyone or any sub is emotional
pain.  When anyone experiences emotional pain, my first reaction is to comfort
them.  


Once again, I will reiterate, if you can't tolerate causing emotional pain, you are not an extreme sexual sadist.  The sexual sadist wouldn't care if he/she was causing emotional pain in addition to physical pain.
 
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Please don't confuse sexual sadist with non-sexual sadist.  I don't get off

on seeing people suffer pain.   Seeing a dentist drill in someone's tooth, makes
me feel pain.   I am a vegetarian because I don't want any animal to suffer for my
pleasure.  I have sacraficed a great deal to help people in need,  and to rescue
dogs, cats, turtles, and birds.


You really don't have a clue....do you?
 
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> and doesn't ever give into the violence often associated with extreme sadism. 

 
Somehow, it sounds to me like you are confused.  I am not a violent person.
The thought of violence nauseates me.  I don't watch violent television shows
or violent movies.  I am squimish and faint at the sight of blood.  
 
> Many "real" sexual sadists are in jail for non consensual acts. 


OK, you are squimish at the sight of blood and can't stand seeing anyone experiencing any kind of emotional pain.  EXTREME sexual sadists can cause both and feel no remorse at all!  It seems to me that you are the one who is confused here.
 
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Many "real," dominant, aggressive people are in jail for non-consensual

act.  I readily admit to having all kinds of non-consensual fantasies, just
like many females have non-consensual rape fantasies.   If I hadn't been
brought up the way I had, if I didn't have the moral principles I have, if I
didn't fear and respect the law, if I wasn't good-natured,  I could easily
be a criminal.


Actually it probably has more to do with your genes than your upbringing....but that is for another debate.

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If my grandmother had testicles she would have been

my grandfather.  


Hypothetically, she could have had testicles and still given birth to your parent, albeit the odds would be small.


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The truth is you would be hard-pressed to find other

males as sweet, as loving, as sensitive, as caring, as comforting,
as kind, as compassionate, as moral as I am.  My life is not centered
around fullfilling my sexual appetite, but helping others and lessening
human and animal suffering.  I don't see how being a real sexual
sadist makes me a bad personl.  People should be judged by what
they do, not what they fantasize about, and not what they desire.


Thank you for proving my argument.  You are not a sexual sadist in the terms refered to above.  Fantasy does not make you an extreme sexual sadist regardless of how many women you rape in your head.  My guess is there isn't a saddistic bone in your body based upon how you have described yourself.
 
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> I am a maschochist, but not extreme.

 
I am a sadist, but not extreme.  I fantasize extreme things. 
Don't a lot of females fantasize being raped?  Don't masochists
fantasize having a lot of extreme things being done to them?
As a sado-masochist, I fantasize having a lot of extreme things
done to me.  That doesn't mean I would ever really allow
these things to be done.   Just because we enjoy something
in a fantasy does not mean we would enjoy it in reality. Can't
we seperate fantasy from reality? 


Therein lies the difference between a "real" sexual sadist and one who only living out a fantasy in his/her head.  The one who only thinks about these things doesn't even qualify as a sadist.

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I just wish to add I get sexual pleasure from

sexual sadism.   Someone who just gets pleasure
from inflicting pain is a sadist, and that is a 
major symptom of a personality disorder.




OK....so someone who gets pleasure from inflicting pain is a sadist.  A sexual sadist gets pleasure from inflicting pain WHILE engaging in some sort of sexual act!  You might want to quit.....You sound like you are confusing yourself!



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