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GirlieGirl -> Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 2:49:09 PM)

My new Master wants to have anal sex with me without a condom. What are your thoughts? Everything I've read says it's safer to wear a condom. Thanks.




stef -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 3:09:00 PM)

Have you both been tested for STDs? Have you been 100% monogamous since those tests were taken? Are you SURE you have both been 100% monogamous since those tests were taken?

If so, knock yourself out.

~stef




Darthbetta -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 3:44:13 PM)

keyt words here ... " NEW MASTER".

Once having been around him/her for a while you will get a better feel for his pregressive movement.

Anal sex is a very special thing.

I think you should make sure of afore mentioned "monogomy" or STD test, and if you want him to stuff your poo in the raw, go for it, but beware of the "chocolate whistle" and rather nasty taste should he want to "deposit" the creamy filling elsewhere.

Oh, and having regular intercourse then anal and going back to intercourse isa big no-no. a lot of bad infections and otherwise "nasty" crap*.

* Pardon teh crap pun

PS: if you want to be a bit sadistic.... eat soem corn chips for a few days before hand, and give him a "rough" tube LOL...




LaMspeach -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 4:42:06 PM)

Is is safer to wear a condom for both anal and vaginal sex until you are sure both you and your partner as been tessted for STD's and retested again 6 month later.




GirlieGirl -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 6:59:53 PM)

what about after we've been tested? Isn't it safer still to wear a condom?




INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 7:24:00 PM)

If you can be absolutely sure of monogamy, and are free of STDs, let him pound away!

But if you are not sure, and he wants to do it anyway, you should run away!



quote:


Don't cross the streams, It would be bad.

Dr. Egon Spengler, in Ghostbusters




perverseangelic -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 7:24:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GirlieGirl

what about after we've been tested? Isn't it safer still to wear a condom?



Safer from what? If you've both been tested he's not going to give you anything. The other dangers I know of are from not being careful enough during the act and have nothing to do with condoms or lack thereof




alwayzron -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 7:25:03 PM)

A lot of people 'bare back'. But it's the hygine issue of the act that you must consider. The rectum carries a lot of bacteria and anal sex often results in micro-abrasions or tears in both the penis and rectal tissues, providing bacteria with in entry point into the body. For this reason, a condom is probably your best bet. However ... dot com ... this is my opinion at best.




ShadeDiva -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 8:42:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GirlieGirl
what about after we've been tested? Isn't it safer still to wear a condom?


It sounds to me like you might not be familiar with the facts about STD testing, and what those tests actually mean.

It goes something like this:

You plan to have unprotected sex in any fashion (anal, oral, vaginal) - fluid bonding is one way to term this - and you wish to plan for this so that it is as safe for the two of you that it can be.

So you and your partner agree that each feels it is vital and necessary and important for both of you to get tested to assure yourselves that either you are healthy or to at least identify what STD the other carries so that you can then make an informed decision on if you wish to still have sex - and what protection measures you must abide by to insure as best as one can (NOTHING is foolproof!) that the one that is carrying the STD (or if the both of you find out that each of you have two different types of STDs - so that you don't add on another STD to the one you are already dealing with and compound the health issues you'd both be facing) doesn't pass it on to the other.

Now that you both have agreed to this, you both go get tested.

Important note here:
ONCE TESTED - ANY SEXUAL ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS AFTERWARDS IS NOT COVERED BY THAT TEST.

That means you both get tested, he gets a blowjob, or she gives one, that test (even if oral is not the most common vector, it *can* happen) is now for all intents and purposes null and void. Doesn't matter if that test comes back clean, they have once again placed the question of their clean bill of health into doubt. Period.

So let's say - hypothetically - that until you get your intial tests back, both of you are completely chaste, no sexual contact of anything, no fluid bonding at all, with *any* other person, and the tests come back clean.

Well, that IS good news.

But ...

... this is NOT "a go ahead and it's safe" bill of clean health. Nope.

For many diseases and viruses, yes, at that point, you could be pretty much safe.

However HIV won't show for 6 months on a test (unless they have improved the tests, but last I knew it was a 6 month radius). So if you use the first test as the offical starting point (which logically, is the only thing you can bet on with any degree of certainty if at all), you would then need to wait *another* 6 months without ANY sexual contact or fluid bonding with another person occuring for either of you, and THEN get tested at that 6 month bench-mark.

If it comes back clean after 6 months for both of you, you have done your best to insure your health is being addressed and that you have done all you can to verify your partner is clean.

There *is* however a BIG catch in all this.

You HAVE to be able to 100% TRUST that the other person cares enough about you and themselves to FULLY abstain from any fluid exchange or sexual activity of any type from the time of the first test to getting the second test's results. ANY sexual contact or fluid echange between the results of the first and second nullify the entire test's validity for having ANY assurances that they are free from any STDs as best as we can test for at this time.

Many people will NOT be honest about that time frame and quite often I've heard of those that did have sexual contact in between their tests and wound up passing a STD to their partner who had thought they took every precaution. They didn't take every precaution in knowing who they were dealing with and being able to say to themselves that this person will NOT endanger me or themselves in this manner.

Delusion can be deadly in this manner. This is where no excuses, and cold hard facts and reality must be faced and - as honestly as they can be - assessed. It's not easy to do, but the consequence of not doing it can affect the rest of your life and all the people in your life.

So realize, all the test can say - is that AT THAT MOMENT that they were tested - they were clean.

It says nothing of 6 months down the road, and any sexual contact and fluid exchange after the test renders that test to be basically void.

I will say this, that I would *never* consent to having unprotected anal sex (or ANY sexual contact actually) wih anyone that I could not say without the slightest inkling of doubt, gave enough of a shit about me and my life that they would never endanger it for a mere sexual frolic. Ever. Period, end of story.

That's just what I do, but I take my health very seriously. Dominants, lovers, boyfriends/girlfriends, friends - they ALL come and go to some extent on some level - but your health is literally with you forever.

We all want to beleive that the person we dig or are in love with at the time will be there forever, but that is so often just not the case. I don't want the legacy of a mistake I made with a person that didn't give a flying fuck about me or my health impacting my life until I die or those I wind up being involved with after the jerk and I are done. I just don't need or want that millstone around my neck, and I will do my best to not stupidly hang it on myself.

To me, my health is worth the sacrifice of immediate self pleasure.

Any day.

JMO, FWIIW.

~ShadeDiva




proudsub -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 9:01:53 PM)

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Safer from what? If you've both been tested he's not going to give you anything.


From the research i've done there is no test for men for non wart varieties of HPV and no symptoms in men. From what i've read it is not clear if it can be transmitted anally. My doctor wasn't even sure about that.




velvetvixen -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 9:19:55 PM)

We always use a condom, vaginally or anally and if we switch entry points, a new condom is used. It cuts down on the mess.




randsboy -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 9:24:33 PM)

If you r both monnogamous and both HIV neg, there should not be a problem with the bareback request. However, if Master plays around let him know that you would feel safer if he would use a condom and if allowed provide your reasons. my Master and i bareback together but when a third is introduced or at the bathhouse a condom is required as per Master. no ifs ands or buts about it




bottominwa -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 9:25:56 PM)

If you do not use condoms vaginally with this Master than there is no reason to use them anally.

If you do have anal sex and He likes to go back and forth between the "prizes" as this girl's Master does, she suggests keeping an antibacterial handiwipes next to the bed...thats what We do....and We go in and out of every hole and to the mouth and back again and she hasn't had any bizarre infections or anything in the decade We've been doing it.

Have fun!

sabrina King

House of King




sub4hire -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/30/2004 9:26:35 PM)

Condom most definately.




mysticsoul -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (12/31/2004 6:39:26 PM)

You should always insist on condoms - especially if he's your "new" master.

I won't have sex without condoms - its just not worth the risk.

You're health is ultimately YOUR responsibility - take control of it.




midtnsub4use -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (11/2/2009 6:57:55 PM)

condom definetely




DavanKael -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (11/2/2009 7:11:29 PM)

Here's me about to say something potentially unpopular surprise, surprise: anal sex with a condom suffers as does vaginal sex.  Condoms do take away from the experience and, in my limited experience with using condoms for anal, they hurt each and every time (And, I have had unprotected anal sex with someone larger than the person who was using the condom and had instances with no pain at all).  Okay, okay, so here's your public service announcent portion of my statement: yes, it is an act of trust.  You can get torn up from anal and that makes it easier for bacteria and viruses to get into your system.  If it's someone you trust, have at it.  I, personally, would likely consider foregoing anal (And I am a fan of anal) rather than using a codom. 
As for  your concerns about other issues beyond std's, theoretically you can get infections from things entering your blood stream through tears, if there are certain chemicals/drugs in his semen they could be absorbed through your large intestine, etc. 
Using a condom doesn't make tears less likely, so I don't see any benefit for damage purposes: in fact, I think the drag of the latex makes you more likely to tear but that is my own personal opinion and experience rather than something science-based. 
My take on this: sex is risky in that you can get damaged and/or diseases.  Anal sex is more risky than vaginal sex in those regards.  If you trust the person you're with and you like anal: happy butt lovin', lol!  Oh, and checkout puckerup.com; Tristan Taormino is the goddess of all things anal and is a sex-positive educator whose approach and work I respect greatly. 
Davan




Rhodes85 -> RE: Anal Sex - Condom or No Condom ? (11/2/2009 7:38:11 PM)

ShadeDiva you are quite correct, and I would like to expand on that by mentioning that the six months of infection prior to showing positive on an HIV test is only a general statement. It take several weeks or more beyond that amount of time before a person would show a positive result.

and most importantly.....

*****SAFETY FIRST*****

until you are absolutely positive that neither of you have any diseases use a condom. Particularly given that he is your *new* Master.




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