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Is this normal? - 1/1/2005 3:30:37 PM   
nella


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I am not sure if this is the right forum for this, but as it is many pepole here i will ask a question i have been mussing over for a long time. I am a girl, but i do not care aboute my apperance. It is not that i am uncept, no, i have to be clean, and have clean clothing to feel well, it is just that comforst go over apperance all the time. I do not bother to shave my legs, nor use more money on cholthing than i have to. Am i normal that thinks this way or am i not?
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RE: Is this normal? - 1/1/2005 3:41:20 PM   
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I was far from what average society would call normal as well. What is normal?
I think normal is whatever works for you.

My brother passed away when I was ten. My whole world died with me that day. That night I remember hearing mom and dad talking. They said I would follow in his footsteps. From that day on I was mom's girl and dad's boy. Dad was a mechanic so I rebuilt engines. I could do anything a man could do and usually better.
Yet, at the same time I could put on that dress with the best of them. I guess what I'm getting at is. I was only considered a tomboy. Was I normal? If you considered tomboys normal then yes I was.
I've never been one into much make-up either. To me natural is much more important. That is just me though. I've never been one into the now style. I have my own style.
Anymore when I dress up I do for my Dom. Not for myself or for anyone else. I only care about pleasing him.
Is that normal? If so, then I think you're normal. Then again, maybe we're both off some. Although being a bit off has never bothered me.
I do however shave my legs.

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/1/2005 5:57:26 PM   
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Are you happy?

Well, then who cares if you're normal :)

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/1/2005 7:57:14 PM   
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Master and I were talking about this last night. When I met him two years ago, I was not into hair, clothing, make-up-- none of it, except I did shave my legs.

Somehow without my realizing it, Master has indeed changed my whole appearance, of course for the better. I have hair, nails, clothes-- very girly stuff. As Master desires, I no longer shave my legs which did take some getting used to, I must say.

Nella, if what you are doing is pleasing to your Master then you are fine. If you are currently seeking and you are happy with you, then you are fine too.

Happy New Year.

I should have added this with the original post: I don't see anything wrong at all with the way you look. Be happy!!

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 12:33:09 AM   
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Did your feelings about appearance change suddenly? If so, there could be a problem. If you have always been this way, that's just you I guess. If it bothers you, maybe a girlfriend could take you shopping for a new style.

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 1:04:19 AM   
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I thinkit has somthing to do whit being considerd ugly when in shool. I am not slender, and enither was i when in school and the other childrenused to call me ugly and i realy hurt. And i think that i then desided that to protect myself from being hurt i would not care. Ugly or not, it make no difference to me i told myself.


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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 1:48:38 AM   
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Normal is not an easy thing to define - Ive seen your profile and i dont think you are ugly by any stretch of the imagination - you need some confidence for sure though - in some European countries its accepted for woman to not shave anywhere - and sometimes im just too damn lazy to sahve my legs - have to say if money is an issue its amazing what op shops have in the way of recycled clothing :-)

smiles
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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 4:23:10 AM   
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THank you ruby. It is not money, i am not rich but i can afford nice clothing, it is just that i do not realy care. I think the shaving is becouse i am proud of my lungs, i acupuncture, strong hair growth on the legs is an idication of werry good longs, and i have exelent lungs, i dont know, my head is just buzzing over this and i do not realy know what to think.

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 5:37:33 AM   
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What defines normal? Other people, society & their expectations of what others should be by their definitions? Should we all follow those expectations and try to cram ourselves in to fit the mold? Would we truely be happy in doing so?? If so, i am proud to say, i'm NOT normal. Why settle for 'normal'? i'm NOT normal, i'm phenominal, and i like me that way.


nella,

i've worked as a cosmetologist (hairstylist) since 1995. my job duties include styling & cutting, perming & coloring, chemical hair straightening,hair removal procedures, pedicures & manicures, & makeup ... etc. etc. It's my job to communicate well enough with my clients in order to determine what it is i can do for them to help them to feel 'normal' and better about themselves ... and then of course, transform them into whatever fits their definition of 'beauty'.

Most of my clients are thrilled with the end results received. Of the small handful who leave unsatisfied, the reason is almost always the same. Many people are not happy internally, inside themselves, and with themselves. i have many methods at my disposal to help others feel beautiful, and happy with themselves. None work internally.

Self acceptance, self esteme, & inner happiness can NOT be found in a bottle of Clairol, the latest fashion, or by trying to live by others' definitions of 'normal'.

Define your own definition of 'normal'. Live by that definition rather than another's mold of what they believe it should be. Believe in yourself, and accept who you are before expecting anyone else to. Confidence is the one and only, yet most important and effective ingredient for beautification that i am not capable, nor trained for, nor licensed in providing for my clients. Have confidence in who you are, and others will too. We've all heard the phrase, "Beauty is only skin deep". ALLOW your beauty to shine from within.

A friend of mine once shared a poem (see below) with me at a time when my self confidence was not at a high level. It helped me the first time i read it, i thought, "Hey! That's me. That's who i am inside.". i then let myself OUT. It's all about self acceptance followed by confidence.



PHENOMENAL WOMAN
by Maya Angelou

Pretty women wonder where my secret lies
I'm not cute or built to suit a model's fashion size
But when I start to tell them
They think I'm telling lies.
I say
It's in the reach of my arms
The span of my hips
The stride of my steps
The curl of my lips.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally
Phenomenal woman
That's me.

I walk into a room
Just as cool as you please
And to a man
The fellows stand or
Fall down on their knees
Then they swarm around me
A hive of honey bees.
I say
It's the fire in my eyes
And the flash of my teeth
The swing of my waist
And the joy in my feet.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally
Phenomenal woman
That's me.

Men themselves have wondered
What they see in me
They try so much
But they can't touch
My inner mystery.
When I try to show them
They say they still can't see.
I say
It's in the arch of my back
The sun of my smile
The ride of my breasts
The grace of my style.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally
Phenomenal woman
That's me.

Now you understand
Just why my head's not bowed
I don't shout or jump about
Or have to talk real loud
When you see me passing
It ought to make you proud.
I say
It's in the click of my heels
The bend of my hair
The palm of my hand
The need for my care.
'Cause I'm a woman
Phenomenally
Phenomenal woman
That's me.



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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 10:59:10 AM   
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cynnacent - thank you for posting that poem - you surely are a phenomenal woman (as are we all) *smile* . Ive read that poem before and this time i think i'll save it because its so true. Its sad that in this day and age so many people (I beleive predominantly women) still struggle to have self exteem and confidence - I have two daughters - one is nearly 5 and the other 3 and a half and Im always telling them how much i love them and how gorgeous they are - I want to break the cycle i grew up with where no one ever said anything like that and the only comments were negative :-)

smiles and you go girl

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 11:18:16 AM   
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I don't think the focus should be on if you are normal or not. It's obvious that this is bugging you. The background you posted shows where this all stems from. You need to realize that you are not that schoolgirl anymore. You can look any way that you want.
I sense that you want to dress up, but still feel the taunts from your school mates.
You are an adult now. Go out with a girlfriend and let her pick some things that make you look good. I think that once you realize that you DO look good, it will be easier to accept. Good luck.

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 12:52:50 PM   
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Nella: You look fine, a bit uncheerful though. There is nothing wrong in your appearance and being natural. I don't believe you need to buy clothes or make yourself up, I think you need to find happiness in general and you will exude beauty. Do some self reflection and follow what makes you happy; the rest will follow.

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 1:16:23 PM   
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I wanted to put my two cents worth here. When i was 18 i weighed in at a hefty 250 lbs. Being overweight at a young age was no fun and i was always put down, made fun of etc. Kids would tease me asking me if i was pregnant, if i was a clone of a whale ...things like that, and it did get me into a deeper depression to where i would eat to cure my hurt feelings. Due to obvious health problems, during the next 6 or 7 years i lost 110 lbs and am down to 140 lbs. Even so i still felt that they look at me like i'm that overweight kid. Because i let myself believe it. Once i learned that it didn't matter what others thought of me, life seems a little more happier, easier to cope with. I guess what i am trying to say in a long, round about way is....be who you are, if you are happy with yourself then it doesn't matter what others say. Confidence in yourself is what is important!! I too see nothing wrong with your pic!

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/2/2005 8:10:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cynnacent1

What defines normal? Other people, society & their expectations of what others should be by their definitions? Should we all follow those expectations and try to cram ourselves in to fit the mold? Would we truely be happy in doing so?? If so, i am proud to say, i'm NOT normal. Why settle for 'normal'? i'm NOT normal, i'm phenominal, and i like me that way.





Ditto!!! Very well said!! And judging by those I've seen call themselves "normal" -- hell, count me OUT!

harmony

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RE: Is this normal? - 1/5/2005 7:43:56 AM   
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Dear Nella,
here's my $.02, having been where you are... Growing up, I wasn't very big, but definitely thought I was among the uglies... Than some things happened, and a lightbulb went on, and I noticed "I am beautiful"; I am NOT the Norm for Beauties by Mass society's standards, but it's also what makes me unique, and special, and I have some great qualities.
You have to love yourself, because life is too short to waste on comparing with norm/most beautiful... If you want more beautiful clothes, buy them; if you want to shave your legs/wear make up, do that (don't do them to be normal, do them if you think you look beautiful in doing them; I am against hiding behind shabby clothes because you feel "unpretty", and want to go unnoticed, it's cheating yourself).
I am a Big Beautiful Woman, and ever since I discovered my self respect, have never feared/been jealous of a thin/normal lady.
Have fun in whatever you choose to do. M
P.S. Thanks Cynnacent for putting up that poem

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