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What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 9:56:37 AM   
ShadowVixen


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I have a problem I have never had to deal with before and could really use some assistance from you wonderful and lovely Ladies who have experience in addressing and correcting this particular discipline concern.
What is the proper degree of servere punishemnt for a slave who has shamed and humiliated its Mistress in public to a female?
Any and all suggestions or hints and recommendations of punishment types will be greatly appreciated....and probably implemented, lol...so make them good, please...
I want him to be very clear that this is never ever acceptable nor will it be tollerated...
Thanks in advance for your input and options...

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 10:04:17 AM   
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Well, you have to do something he doesn't like.  I enjoy pain to a certain level so a lot of it would be the opposite of punishment for me.  Beyond that level I can tolerate a whole lot of pain so it still wouldn't be all that much of a punishment.  Things like that need to be taken into consideration.  Just ignoring him for a period of time might be the worst thing you can do to him, but it may be that he can cope with that easily too.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 10:08:08 AM   
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And telling him that it is never acceptable and that it will not be tolerated will not work? Is he not a rational adult who can take responsibility for himself and be accountable for his actions?

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 10:56:11 AM   
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Is the slave worth keeping?  Easily replaced?

If the transgression is bad enough, perhaps the biggest punishment would be to remove yourself from the equation.

Denial in its ultimate form.

Just a thought.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 11:29:29 AM   
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Okay ... I've posted this on another board.  THAT situation is exactly what happened with My slave a few years back.  I gave her 24/7 orders for nudity ... then during that time (long enough for this to occur), a couple of my vanilla friends showed up.  I was just fine with that ... she wanted to find a fig leaf *lol* and NEVER did that again.  There was more that occured during one visit, but I've posted that elsewhere *lol*.

Make sure whatever punishment You choose, the slave is very clear on WHY You are displeased and how they may correct themselves to please You in the future.  Keep in mind their frame of mind and where their feelings for You lie at this time as well.  Your responsibility is to direct without permanent harm, to get them to a place of peaceful devotion through loving direction.  A swift kick in the ass is at times ... not the answer.  Humiliation or removal of your regard is much better.

Like slapping a child that is always slapped ... after awhile, it won't be effective.  If your punishments are more emotional, they tend to leave the impact you desire.


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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 11:36:41 AM   
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i used to get lines,  or if i had done worse and essay
the unttimate bad deed would of been punishable with a strap down beating even the threat of it terrifide me and quite possibly nearl broke me

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 1:03:17 PM   
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quote:

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What is the proper degree of servere punishemnt for a slave who has shamed and humiliated its Mistress in public to a female?


Just my thoughts; it would not matter to me if the slave shamed and humiliated me to a female or a male, either is despicable and totally unacceptable. I assume this was a very serious transgression and not a matter of using the wrong fork at the dinner table, or making an off colour remark? Quite honestly, if a slave did something that caused me to feel shame in owning them and personal humiliation I would have removed their collar immediately. If in a lifestyle setting I would do it in the presence of witnesses, if in a nilla setting as soon as it could be done without intruding on the sensibilities of others. There is little benefit in prolonging punishment and that type of behaviour should never happen (whether with a slave, a lover, a friend or an aquintance).

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 1:49:32 PM   
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I would have thought the punishment depended on whether the act was done in a deliberate manner or accidental?

If it was deliberate  - then I would be inclined to remove the collar also, and ignore them for a considerable time while they thought over what they had done and written a lengthy journal on it.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 2:05:27 PM   
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By removing his or her collar, do you mean you would have released the slave?

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 2:09:39 PM   
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IMO; I can not see how an act that would create feelings of shame and humiliation in me could be anything but delibrate. Embarrassing things can happen (a mispoken word, spilling a drink a truly stupid comment) but these are accidental for the most part. Even some really truly goddess awful embarassing things (think uncontrollable explosive diaherrea in response to severe food allergy) would not create shame and humiliation for another. I believe that if I felt strongly enough about my slaves actions to such a piont of shame and humiliation , the act would have been deliberate.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 2:11:32 PM   
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Yes bandit, I do not remove a collar for play or as a form of chastisment. I do not place one lightly and would never remove one lightly. If my collar is off the slave is released.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 3:49:43 PM   
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males should attempt to imitate the Superior Sex in all ways except one--Dominance.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 7:17:15 PM   
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It's difficult to think of a fitting punishment without understanding the incident. Would you be willing to share more details?

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/27/2006 8:49:48 PM   
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Yes ... details.  Perhaps that would help bring Us all to a more specific form of punishment.  The punishment must fit the crime ... what happened?

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/28/2006 1:20:56 AM   
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greetings
 
i would like to know what he did this is important, it will give us an ideal what he did and how long how did he act after did he know you were upset at him? all of this would be helpful
 
i had a slave who once said something about anothet woman i slap him so hard he begged me not to hit him again i told him before that i was displease with what he had said.
but i use the slience treatment for at least a week and this mean no talking to slave at all this works very well your disappointment and slience is something they can not ahndle at all it hurt more then a beating so i think choose whcih on you willl do and i wish you luck
 
mons take care

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/29/2006 12:35:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShadowVixen

I have a problem I have never had to deal with before and could really use some assistance from you wonderful and lovely Ladies who have experience in addressing and correcting this particular discipline concern.
What is the proper degree of servere punishemnt for a slave who has shamed and humiliated its Mistress in public to a female?
Any and all suggestions or hints and recommendations of punishment types will be greatly appreciated....and probably implemented, lol...so make them good, please...
I want him to be very clear that this is never ever acceptable nor will it be tollerated...
Thanks in advance for your input and options...

Given that none of us have nogotiated with said slave or know their limits, past experience or triggers, it'd be hard to speak to what specifically to do with this individual for the transgression.

I can't say that I've been in a situation with a slave where I had to wait to punish them because I needed to post to strangers and ask for advice.  I think I know my own slave well enough and am a sensible dominant to know what will change their unwanted behavior without causing damage.  That is what THEY entrusted me for.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/30/2006 10:41:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShadowVixen

I have a problem I have never had to deal with before and could really use some assistance from you wonderful and lovely Ladies who have experience in addressing and correcting this particular discipline concern.
What is the proper degree of servere punishemnt for a slave who has shamed and humiliated its Mistress in public to a female?
Any and all suggestions or hints and recommendations of punishment types will be greatly appreciated....and probably implemented, lol...so make them good, please...
I want him to be very clear that this is never ever acceptable nor will it be tollerated...
Thanks in advance for your input and options...

Given that none of us have nogotiated with said slave or know their limits, past experience or triggers, it'd be hard to speak to what specifically to do with this individual for the transgression.

I can't say that I've been in a situation with a slave where I had to wait to punish them because I needed to post to strangers and ask for advice.  I think I know my own slave well enough and am a sensible dominant to know what will change their unwanted behavior without causing damage.  That is what THEY entrusted me for.


I have to say this was my gut level reaction and is my gut level reaction to all these posts looking for punishment ideas and needing help with how to discipline a slave.

If someone is really my slave then I'm the only one who can know him/her well enough to make these decisions, strangers certainly cannot.  Until you know someone this well, I would not claim ownership of him/her.

Now if it really a matter of must new play ideas, I suppose folks can use a few new ideas from time to time.

If its really a matter of just venting or sharing something without looking for advice, heck that's the sort of stuff I love to read.

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RE: What is the proper degree of severe punishment... - 8/30/2006 12:08:03 PM   
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That's what I'm here on the boards for, apparently.......to speak the mind of those who post something very polite and mannerly, but have thoughts of something else entirely. 

<~~~calling a spade a spade for 35 years

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