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ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 8:05:48 AM   
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-ebay28.html 
EBay scams traced to Chicago

i have bought many things on ebay. you win some- you lose some. i bought stuff i literally would throw out. it was grlorifiedly described/piced.

in the teck age- and with ID fraud- this isnt a shock.

who the heck would buy real jewlery online??

wait. what was your biggest kill? or your biggest mistake?

im going to level with you on this- i actually paid $50 for a gold tooth. that i thought i could use!
there- is said it. bad idea. on the flip side i bought my current computer on ebay. scroed good. maybe 2k worth for 500.00.

win some -loose some.

a gold tooth. man i must have been HIGHLY nedicated!!! what was i thinkinmg! LMAO
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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 9:30:46 AM   
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I've been screwed by two sellers who went outta business after they received my money. Both sellers had fine scores, too. Both takes were nominal, under $20 each. 

My best/worst beware of eBay tale has to do with identity theft. One day last spring, I recieved 3 phone calls from  three excited motorheads, each telling me they just bought my GTO. Bummer dude, I hope you didn't pay for it yet. Those 3 gents hadn't paid yet and were smart enough to look up my phone number before continuing with the purchase. I made my reports with eBay and had them remove the fraudulant seller profile that had been online for some months.  Two months ago, I was contacted by a police officer in the Syracuse, NY area, answering to a complaint that I did not provide a buyer with the GTO he bought. By this time it was learned that a Romanian crime ring was involved

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 10:44:28 AM   
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HOLY COW!

OMG-

wow.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 12:16:36 PM   
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I "won" two things off of ebay.  The first one I got, the second one I did not.  The second one cost Me $50.  I never went back.  Screw them.  I would rather go to a store and pay a few extra dollars if I have to.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 12:26:13 PM   
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well this may explain why my business is slow.chuckles oh well..there are many buyeres who are fakes no matter how low or high the score is.Thats why i really encourage folks to call or email me or my favorite Im me.....to show im a real person really doing a business.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:02:05 PM   
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My only mistakes on ebay have been buying clothing type items and not having them fit in the bust well.  But that's a risk I knew I took when I bought clothes I couldn't try on first.  Otherwise, all my experiences have been very positive- cds, beanie baby's, dresses, jewelry (NOT real), batteries and other stuff.

However, I tend to be very picky and rarely ever do ebay anymore.  With the prices people ask and the S&H added on, it rarely is a truly good deal that you can't get an item new elsewhere.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:06:31 PM   
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lucky,

Shipping costs I agree- yes- that can wreck any deal.

On the flip side- i found goodies my local stores wont stock. so i can be odd-eccentric.
well in general, thank god for the internet. :-)

the one size fits all mode is out.

i can fill my head and my life with positive things-ideas-etc,
i never again have to "beg" a store to order a special product.   :-)

:-D   *huge smiles*

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:12:04 PM   
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I have actually had very good luck with Ebay, call me crazy lucky I guess. I have bought all sorts of stuff, the priciest being a new professional grade digital camera and some lenses. I have gotten some great stones (gemstones) and a few amazing pieces of antique jewelry. I think I have only ever recieved two things that were not as they were advertised. One was a ring that was not the ring pictured though it still was by all letter of the law equal to, and the other was a pair of costume earrings when they were noted as being antique. Both sellers were very good at taking the merchandise back AND refunding me not only the money I had paid for the item and shipping to me, but also the return shipping. I was very impressed!
I am really picky and critical when it comes to spending my money but except for those two times I have never been disappointed and several times actually pleasantly surprised with items purchased thru Ebay.


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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:17:07 PM   
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quote:

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lucky,

Shipping costs I agree- yes- that can wreck any deal.





Well, shipping costs are not illusions.  It actually costs money in postage to ship an item.  It also costs money to purchase packaging materials....boxes, tape, address labels, padding if shipping delicate items etc.  There is also an amount of 'labor' that goes into the time spend packaging and addressing the items, not to mention time (which is money)  in line at the post office, in addition to the gas that is spent to get there.

Go to a store, spend 10 bucks in gas to get there and back and spend 2 hours searching through every single store until you find that Brown T shirt you want in just your size with the pocket on it and double stitching around the hemline.  Or just sit on your ass at your desk,  type in the exact description of what you want and then have it show up at your door step in 36 hours.  I mean....the choice is yours.  But dont expect someone to pay ebay fees, spend time listing, taking photos, giving customer service, taking measurements, packaging, posting and shipping it so you dont have to make effort one,  and get it all for a garage sale price. 

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:22:50 PM   
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quote:

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I "won" two things off of ebay.  The first one I got, the second one I did not.  The second one cost Me $50.  I never went back.  Screw them.  I would rather go to a store and pay a few extra dollars if I have to.


You can file a claim through ebay and or paypal for this.  The ultimate responsibility is on the seller, and paypal has and will suck that 50 bucks right out of his account and credit it to yours.  But you have to go through the proper channels.  Sign onto your paypal account and click onto dispute resolution.  You can also file a complaint with ebay and the seller will receive a 'strike' against their account for this.  After a few strikes, their account will be terminated by ebay

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:26:22 PM   
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I've never gotten screwed on Ebay, but I've never bought anything expensive, either.  I've gotten some crappy BDSM stuff, but it was all worth about what I (or Peach, actually) paid for it.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:31:15 PM   
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Well, shipping costs are not illusions.  It actually costs money in postage to ship an item.  It also costs money to purchase packaging materials....boxes, tape, address labels, padding if shipping delicate items etc.  There is also an amount of 'labor' that goes into the time spend packaging and addressing the items, not to mention time (which is money)  in line at the post office, in addition to the gas that is spent to get there.

I'm not saying there's no reason to pay S&H- but if the seller is asking for only $10 less than what you can get it retail, or another store for free S&H, and then tacks on $5 for S&H, the value of the deal goes down.  Once you add in the risk factor of not being able to see/touch/use it before you buy it...it's not good enough for me.
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Go to a store, spend 10 bucks in gas to get there and back and spend 2 hours searching through every single store until you find that Brown T shirt you want in just your size with the pocket on it and double stitching around the hemline.

This is why I like living near cities, I've got big malls, strip malls, and downtown shopping districts that let me shop for tons of stuff all at once without that much transportation issue.  And for me, if I buy something online, chances are I'm already spending 2 hours windowshopping and researching to make sure I get the best price I can at a store I trust. 

Ebay certainly has its place for some great deals or hard to find items.  I just find they aren't as useful as they used to be for what I want and everything else that's on the net these days.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 1:49:18 PM   
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quote:

what was your biggest kill? or your biggest mistake?


I bought two videos that were in a format I couldn't play and the guy wouldn't take them back, said i didn't read his description thoroughly and then gave me a negative rating as a buyer.

So i gave him a negative rating too.

All my other purchases have been just fine.  Best deal I got was a Coach handbag for $10, was like new.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 5:30:48 PM   
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Well, shipping costs are not illusions.  It actually costs money in postage to ship an item.  It also costs money to purchase packaging materials....boxes, tape, address labels, padding if shipping delicate items etc.  There is also an amount of 'labor' that goes into the time spend packaging and addressing the items, not to mention time (which is money)  in line at the post office, in addition to the gas that is spent to get there.

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I'm not saying there's no reason to pay S&H- but if the seller is asking for only $10 less than what you can get it retail, or another store for free S&H, and then tacks on $5 for S&H, the value of the deal goes down.  Once you add in the risk factor of not being able to see/touch/use it before you buy it...it's not good enough for me.


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marieToo:  Well, the thing is, anytime you shop on the internet, whether its ebay or any other store, say JC penny for example, theres going to be a shipping charge.  Which I kinda view almost as a luxury charge, because I dont have to leave my desk, look for a parking spot, stand on lines and possibly not find what Im looking for, once I go through the racks.   If you like to shop in person, as alot of people do, then I would agree that it doesnt make sense to pay shipping, (except for the fact that gas prices are high today, even if you live close to malls.)  I live in the mall "capital" of the nation and am within 5 miles of at least 6 major malls, not to mention 30 minutes from nyc where anything in the world can be found,  but I hate to shop, so for me, its worth paying the shipping cost.  I do understand your point about the shipping reducing something that at first looked like a deal.  But if you shop hard enough on ebay, and you know a few little advantages,  you can still find items that are awesome deals even with the shipping added.  

I hear you on the security of buying from a store that you trust and know you can get a refund if you're not happy with the item,  but on ebay, most of the people who are making their living there, will refund if they have misrepresented the item, because they dont want to lose a potential return customer.  Look for those who are "powersellers", as most of them are there making their living.  However sellers cant pay shipping back and forth for people to try stuff on and decide it doesnt fit them.  If that happens to you, just list the item on your own account and sell it!  Also, before buying, check a persons' feedback.  That usually tells you all you need to know about whether or not the seller is ethical.
Another little tip....If you like something and dont want to pay the full price, watch it and track it.  Often it wont sell and the seller will relist it for a cheaper price.  Or someone else may have the exact same item even cheaper.  If you really dedicate some time to it, you can find some awesome deals.  I have purchased brand new Coach bags, Prada and Gucci shoes and saved hundreds off the retail prices.  Ive also purchased cheaper items as well, houswares, art, books  and all kinds of stuff.  When you do a search for a particular item, lets say you want a pair of  BCBG black pumps in size 6;  put that in the search box and choose the option that says "ending soonest",  this is when you will find all BCBG black pumps in your size ending within the next few minutes.  This is when you can often find your item and get it at the last second for its beginning bid price.  Also shop at off hours.  Alot of people who do not sell for a living do not have a clue that you shouldnt list something at 2 oclock in the morning, because it will also expire at 2 oclock in the morning 7 days later, when most people arent shopping.  Chances are when you shop during 'off hours' you will not find much competition, or people trying to outbid one another.   Also....If you see an item that you want and it costs 50 bucks and 10 dollars shipping, email the seller, ask them if they'd be willing to take 40 or 45 for the item and be sure to tell them that you can pay right away via paypal (if you have a paypal account of course).  Often to make a buck, people will let the item go for the offer you make them.  In this case,  in essence, you just received free shipping. 
Dont try to get 30 bucks off a 50 dollar item.  Try to get 10 off it (shoot for something reasonable), or ask if they will ship it for free, or ship cheaper using "parcel post", which is cheaper than "priority mail".  Make a reasonable offer and many sellers will be all too willing to oblige a customer who may very well come back again.  Be creative when you try to haggle....you could purchase 2 pairs of shoes that you love and ask the seller before you bid that since youre buying 2 pairs,  would they ship for free.  The worst they could say is no.  But odds are they will accept or counter-offer something in between.
Also to increase your chances of being disappointed in size mistakes,  ask all questions about the item first.  Im sure this has crossed you mind, but you may not be aware of just how willing sellers are to help you with whatever details you want.  Most sellers are all too happy to give you any info you want, in order to help you decide if you should purchase the item.  Ask what that blouse measures across the chest.  Ask if the fabric is stretchy.  Ask for an insole measurement on that pair of shoes you're looking at.  Ask for an extra photo of the bottom of that handbag.  Ask if its first quality or a catalog return.  Theres pros and cons, I agree.  But most sellers will work with you and want to make their customers happy.  These few tips might be of help next time you are considering an ebay purchase.

 
 
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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 5:33:41 PM   
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Wow.  I've not bought a ton of things off ebay, but I've never been burned.  I've bought cosmetics, music, cds, dvds for my kids.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 7:04:50 PM   
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Woohoo!!!!   I just won something on ebay.
I have great luck on ebay.  I've bought concert tickets, toys, a great leather corset, a cigar afficianado mag, more toys, books, videos, flooring, faucets, sinks,  a great camera, a photo printer... I could keep going.  I love ebay.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 7:09:37 PM   
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I have had good experiences and a couple of bad ones. I have been able to get partial refunds or full refunds when things were not adequately described. I do all the common sense things. I look at the seller rating, the time being a seller, the amount of transactions they have done.. I read negative feedback. People who have been selling on ebay for a while are a good gamble, they value their seller rating and keeping it high.

I can replace almost anything from ebay. I am presently looking for extra chairs for my Daddy's dinette set that was left to him by his grandparents. His chairs have seen better days and he does not have the necessary amount to sit a dinner party of the size this table will accomodate. I have already located 4, but waiting for money to get a little less tight before I bid on anything. There is plenty of time after all.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 8:26:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-ebay28.html 
EBay scams traced to Chicago

i have bought many things on ebay. you win some- you lose some. i bought stuff i literally would throw out. it was grlorifiedly described/piced.

in the teck age- and with ID fraud- this isnt a shock.

who the heck would buy real jewlery online??

wait. what was your biggest kill? or your biggest mistake?

im going to level with you on this- i actually paid $50 for a gold tooth. that i thought i could use!
there- is said it. bad idea. on the flip side i bought my current computer on ebay. scroed good. maybe 2k worth for 500.00.

win some -loose some.

a gold tooth. man i must have been HIGHLY nedicated!!! what was i thinkinmg! LMAO




I would say I've had pretty good experiences with Ebay.  But I thoroughly scrutinize the particulars about the items details, if its a name brade item, ill look up the original item on other sites get all the particulars compare shipping cost, what it would cost if I were to purchase it at a store.  But then, I'm quite frugal and won't spend much unless I'm getting a wayyyyyy super deal.  I've had excellent luck with clothing  since most sellers list measurements or you can request that info.  I also not only look at the scores, I read what the raters say and look up some of the raters as well, especially the ones that leave negative feedback.  Yeah, I know, I have way too much free time on my hands.  But then, I lovvvve to to shop and can't afford to through money down the toilet. 

I've recovered money via Paypal a couple of times, but they don't make it easy 

Pahunkboy, don't feel bad, back when I was a real shopaholic and first discovered ebay, I bought land on ebay, yep I do confess.  Got it dirt cheap too (pun intended)  But after all was said and done and buyers remorse set in, I wrote to the seller and was let out of the deal without penalty other than allowing the seller to keep the first couple of payments I had made amounting to something like $50.  I I no longer do such things thank goodness.  I limit my addiction to the dollar store.  Though there was that one time I bought nine pairs of shoes from one seller on ebay, but hey, they were Italian designer shoes and I spent less than $100 total for items total value well worth over $600.  The Vanelli Boots alone were worth more than $100.  There's a whole long story that goes along with this shoe purchase.  but to be brief. Half of the delivery was stolen.  However, like in some hollywood movie,  The theif/accomplice was moving out of my building and as I was returning home to my apartment from the store one of the moving individuals was outside the building he or his accomplices tried to sell the shoes back to me as he was moving thier belongings out of my building.  After I recognized the items and checked the sizes of all the shoes, I demanded my shoes be handed over at no cost to me.  I'm a relatively calm person, but sometimes I just snap when I've been wrong to that degree and that was one of those moments.   Oh the joys of life. 

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 8:33:16 PM   
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One basic rule of thumb I have about buying on the internet is that I always look for the merchant with the lowest shipping fees, even if that means paying a little more than the absolute lowest price.  Two reasons.  First, a merchant with low shipping fees has confidence in his merchandise.  It means he doesn't expect many returns.  Second--and this is related to the first--a low shipping fee means that I can return the product, if I don't like it, with a relatively low unrecoverable cost.  People who sell shit on Ebay for $0.02 with $11.95 shipping fees are out to rip you off.  Unless I'm buying something quite large/bulky/heavy, I consider any S & H fee over $5 excessive--especially when it's going by media mail.  I know how much that costs.

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Well, shipping costs are not illusions.  It actually costs money in postage to ship an item.  It also costs money to purchase packaging materials....boxes, tape, address labels, padding if shipping delicate items etc.  There is also an amount of 'labor' that goes into the time spend packaging and addressing the items, not to mention time (which is money)  in line at the post office, in addition to the gas that is spent to get there.

Go to a store, spend 10 bucks in gas to get there and back and spend 2 hours searching through every single store until you find that Brown T shirt you want in just your size with the pocket on it and double stitching around the hemline.  Or just sit on your ass at your desk,  type in the exact description of what you want and then have it show up at your door step in 36 hours.  I mean....the choice is yours.  But dont expect someone to pay ebay fees, spend time listing, taking photos, giving customer service, taking measurements, packaging, posting and shipping it so you dont have to make effort one,  and get it all for a garage sale price.

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RE: ebay frauds? a great piece here - 8/28/2006 9:57:26 PM   
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The way I prevent being defrauded on Ebay is to lose the auction.

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