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Termyn8or -> RE: God and Guns (8/29/2006 3:15:14 AM)
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Lotus;
That was a very interesting dream. While your mind created the circumstance, your subsequent action speaks volumes. That is probably what I would have done.
I remember years (decades) ago when I defied the "authorities" and simply asked "what happens if I don't". They said it was up to the judge. I had the whole department on their ear when I told them to shove their agreement up their ass. The judge found out and didn't do shit (I had a really good lawyer at the time).
With Islam, I would not convert. I would tell my captors what I thought, which is true. Islam is a respectable religion, it preaches to be kind unless someone fucks with you. I don't care what you do to your Women, but I think oppressing them is dangerous. One day they bust out of the mold and you shall see that hell hath no fury as that of a Woman scorned. That's your problem.
I would gladly denounce the actions of the US, Israel and England. I do that right here ! I know they have been fucked over, over and over again. I don't approve of how they treat Women, but my kids are not going to be born in their country. Don't think I'd really want them in the US either. Perhaps Switserland. (that key does not work, I do know how to spell it)
I would not, however, change allegiance. My allegiance is to my people, the people of this country. I would raise my voice and criticise, but I would not ever do anything treasonous. My allegiance is NOT to this government, which seems to be overrun with rats. Meglomaniacs, greedy bastards etc. I know, they know. Osama said "Your's is a government of the rich". He was right.
In this case either the truth would set me free or not. If not I will be dead. Fine. See what you get out of me then. Also, pointing a gun at me doesn't mean shit. We used to play with guns, yes, LOADED guns. The difference is whether that little piece of metal has been moved by your finger enough to cause discharge, and you know what ? Once you do that you end the game, and have not won.
Except for teeny bit of tax money they extract from me, I did nothing against these people and I would let them know it. But the whole point is, I would never be there. I could probably make four times what I make here, but I don't want it. We are there to commit genocide and I'll have no part of it.
So, if you're an Islamic terrorist, you will have to come get me here. Lean your gun against my Boston Acoustics (best speakers in the world). We can talk. You are not going to convince me to blow shit up, it is counterproductive. It only further aligns public opinion with the wishes of government.
I don't know if any of you remember, Diana Ross and the Supremes' song 'The Happening'. Well that was written for a movie by the same name.
A guy with money, well known. Perhaps a bit crooked, but not bad, got kidnapped. He had helped a whole bunch of people and when kidnapped nobody would throw the ransom. Even his Wife, and he KNEW she could find the money, which came from him anyway.
Well towards the end of the movie he got kinda nuts. They no longer had him all tied up and he just cracked. He was not a weak Man, but there was a bunch of them. Nonetheless, he took over the gang that had kidnapped him.
With a bit of the right tough, and a bit of the right talk, they went a really ripped off all the people who had forsaken him. Took what they took and destroyed the rest. Each person who had been called to throw the ransom was ruined, his Wife included.
At the end of the movie he was sitting there with his new gang on all this loot. Money, jewelry all that shit. If anything was nice and too big to take they destroyed it. What was left is what they had.
He starts crying, the gang is actually over there asking him "What's wrong, what's wrong ?", he replied "I have nothing".
Not quite the Stockholm syndrome huh ?
My words to terrorists would simply be "If one converts at gunpoint, it is false". I think most of them know what false is.
BTW, anybody got that movie ? I can't find it anywhere.
T
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