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nella -> Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/3/2005 4:24:51 AM)
I just last night begun to look into Gorean lifestyle, it is intruiging, but it is a bit hard to understand. Can anyone give me any exampels of the why it works in practice. One thing is a fantasy world, the other things is here and now whit electric tooth brushes and atmoic bombs. I belive that all worlds created in fiction get a physicaly reality in some domention. All created on the etherial must sooner or later become physical, in this world or another or one of its own creation and of such, this world Gor can affect and send energies to this world as well as the other way around. but i still do not exactly understand how it is practised.

darkinshadows -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/3/2005 4:50:17 AM)
Hello nella...! There are many threads on Gor here... some positive... some negative(depends who one listens to!)... Also too many to just list here!... If You enjoy a good read then try doing a 'search' for Gor or Gorean... or searches for MistressDread or Leonidas... Just a (hopefully)helpful suggestion & keep your beautiful mind open... Peace and love

Malkinius -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/3/2005 6:19:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nella I just last night begun to look into Gorean lifestyle, it is intruiging, but it is a bit hard to understand. Can anyone give me any exampels of the why it works in practice. One thing is a fantasy world, the other things is here and now whit electric tooth brushes and atmoic bombs. I belive that all worlds created in fiction get a physicaly reality in some domention. All created on the etherial must sooner or later become physical, in this world or another or one of its own creation and of such, this world Gor can affect and send energies to this world as well as the other way around. but i still do not exactly understand how it is practised. greetings nella.... Unlike most topics this is one where I can speak authoritatively. The people who live as Goreans, not just play them online do not try to portray the fantasy science fiction elements from the books. We live in the real world that we all call Earth. There are some customs that do carry over and attitudes as well, but mostly it is the philosophical underpinnings put there by the author (a Ph.D. in and professor of Philosophy). The hardest things for most to understand is that Gor is not a part of BDSM. It is not about sex. It is not about masters or slaves. It is said that a man can be Gorean living by himself on an otherwise deserted island. It is a way of living, not really a lifestyle. It is for and about how free men and women interact with each other and the world around them. Now you get to ask. "Wait a minute. What about all the sex and slaves from the books and that you find on all the Gorean web sites?" Good question I answer. Dominant men attract submissive women. At the extreme, a woman will surrender all that she is to him. She will become his slave. It is often a perk, if you will, of being Gorean. That having been said, many come to Gor looking for the slaves, looking for the sex. A very few of those people actually become what I would call Gorean, no matter how many of them claim the status. In the US we estimate somewhere between 1 in 1 and 2 million people might actually be Gorean. I don't really know. There is no central organization or registry of Goreans. There is no test you can pass to claim the status. There is no anointing body that declares that today you are Gorean. One quick test that you can use here. The more they are into the "BDSM lifestyle and activities" the less likely they are to be Gorean. So far it seems to be inversely proportional. Becoming the slave of a Gorean man is very very hard. Becoming the slave of someone who seems to be Gorean is merely hard. Both usually have their stables full so to speak. Many Goreans don't own slaves even if they once did. That seems to be the pattern that I and others have observed over the years. If you want to pretend to be the slave of someone who calls themselves Gorean, just join IRC or Yahoo chat and look for "Gorean" channels. You can have a collar in a couple of hours without trying hard. Just don't expect the "Master" to be real. You can easily be disappointed. The same warning is probably true of BDSM channels as well. If you want some serious web links about people who do try their best to live as Gorean, contact me and I will send a few your way. Asking questions is often a good way to learn but check out the backgrounds and the experience of those who reply. Some do know much more than others. be well nella.... Malkinius

bottominwa -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/3/2005 6:55:26 PM)
nella, This girl will answer this from a girl's perspective of what "her" life is like living as a Gorean slave for going on ten years. she will not proclaim to be a definitive or all inclusive voice of how or why Gorean slavery appeals to some, just the voice of a girl. Living in the house of a Gorean man has given this girl's life purpose. Gorean slavery here is not just the sex and has very little to do with BDSM at all, and absolutely nothing to do with S and M, whipping, paddling et all. This girl fears the whip she doesn't crave it. In the Gorean houses she has been in, and in her own, there is a distinct sense of place and purpose. In caste and in fate, it is an all encompassing life that is as much a part of how We eat, sleep and breathe as it is Our interpersonal relationship. It is best analogized for a girl as a "calling"....something one becomes not something one does. If that makes sense. Belonging to a Gorean Master in this house is very difficult. Master's sense of who He is drives Him, not stabling or seeing to slaves. In His shadow then as He is deployed for months on end as a career soldier, warrior, in the US Army this girl sees to His affairs the best she can as a girl, cradled only in the safety that she is part of something bigger than herself. she is never coddled, many of the needs or desires she at one time thought she had have now been taught her to be only wants, wants that distract her from her goal of serving her house. When she bacame a slave she became an extension of Her Owner's destiny and His will, so she lives for Him and His innate destiny...not for her own selfish desires or passions...her life is thus "purpose" driven and not physically or egomaniacally driven. And this she believes is why many girls find peace in Gorean slavery, much as many people find peace in church or chosen professions. It is a way to make sense of a world that makes no sense. And the codes of ethics give distinct boundaires for one to live in, which is conforting in a world with little boundaries. When you know who you are, and what you are a part of...somehow everything else just falls into place like cherry blossoms in the fall. she hopes this finds you well and makes some sense, it is a hard thing to live and all together next to impossible to describe. sabrina King kajira, alpha bicce House of King of the Rarii Enclave Lewis/McChord/Kitsap [image]local://upfiles/39468/2DD08B426F184407A13261151E55AA13.jpg[/image]

bottominwa -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/3/2005 7:40:33 PM)
a girl just wanted to add that many she knows of Rarii caste atleast, including her Own house...employ bushido in their daily lives...so all in all then Our lives are highly defined "ethically" and life is based down to a series of "codes" by which one attempts, and that is the key...attempts to live. A philosophy for life is that...an "attempt" to live life a certain way, not a mastery of life a certain way per se, for humans are indeed fallable. But on an honest "attempt" to live by what has been deemed ethical and honorable. ok so thats the girls two cents, and if you want to talk let her know, she'd invite you to meet but you are a continent away...lol sabrina King

nella -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/4/2005 2:21:51 AM)
Malkinius and bottominwa thank you so much for the information. In my opinion sex is just a by product of BDSM, it is just as in a Vanilla relationship, the sex is just a part of it, it is not the entire relationship, but sadly in BDSM many seam to think that it is only the sex that is inportant, and that is sad.

stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/4/2005 10:55:25 AM)
nella, This girl lives 24/7 as a kajira to a Gorean Master. stormi's background is one of "Old Guard Leather/BDSM". The transistion has at times been very easy and at times, it has been a struggle. There are things that stormi is required to do and there are things that Master allows a girl to do on her own. Bottom line is..... making Master happy. Being kajira, has brought about lessons that for the most part have brought a completeness that was unknown to stormi before. stormi has not completed the learning process, she is the first to admit there is so much she does not know. The problem is while there are some who live the Gorean lifestyle (Of course it's moderated to fit RT). Alot who claim to be Gorean are alot like the BDSMers you mentioned. It's an excuse to play "swinging' without the "swinging" title, because "Master said to completely satisfy/serve so&so". That is a man calling himself Gorean Master or Master yada or Dom yada... to justify multiple partners. It is not how this girl's Master conducts but it is unfortunately the way alot of the Master in this area do conduct it that way. Which is why it's hard for stormi to ask Master for permission to freely speak to other kajira's about the different beliefs and ways of service. stormi relies heavily upon Master for guidance in this matter. Your comments about intimacy are true. It is not the core of a relationship but an extention. For this girl, it's the chemistry of laughter, power, control, boyish charm, magnatism and so much more that draw stormi to Master, but the main thing that pulls this girl to Master is the complete feeling that Master is the one that was in the girl's path to be the owner of this girl. stormi honestly can say she was not complete before. This is probably more than you want to know. Read what you can, cull out the bull, and then ask your Master how to serve Him best. Questions while some deem bad, for stormi are the best form of service when stormi is not sure of something that she should or shouldn't do. Be well, stormi property of Master Bear

nella -> RE: Gorean lifestyle in practice. (1/4/2005 3:38:57 PM)
I find what you say werry interesting stormi, thank you for your response. I find Gorean now that i have read aboute it to be interesting but i do nmot think it is the pathfor me, i have to much of a need to be abel to do things for myself, to be my own person in adition to a submissive than to live in that stern a realtionship. Me and my Dom found one another when i was only 16 years old, he was my first love and i his first girl, and we have stayed together sine. For a littel while ago we found D/s as a furfilling way to live. For example i have always been submissive, i find it had to say no to pepole and worry so over what other pepole think of me, but when i serve as a submissive i need not worry aboute that, for the only one i need to pleese is my Dom. Yet at the same time i have goals and needs of my own that i must furfill and i can not live my whole life for another, even if i submitt to them. Still the Gorean lifestyle has a butey and en Energy og its own that is wonderous i think from what i have read, even if my knowledge is realy to limited to say such things, again thank you for the information.

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