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Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 5:13:54 AM   
Riff


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So today the British government announced that it's going to ban "violent internet porn"

In other words, if you are in the UK and look at any images of WIITWD (ie coming on this site, Informed Consent, or bdotcom) you'll very soon be committing a criminal offence which will probably get you locked up.

So check out the Backlash web site. Fight for your rights... Because sure as shit stinks, nobody else will

BBC news article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/5297600.stm

Your best chance of fighting this law:  http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 5:58:51 AM   
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Ive no doubt the US will follow suit eventually

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 7:15:00 AM   
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Whereas our heartfelt sympathies and condolences go out to the family of the person who died and it is regrettable that anyone should be murdered in such a way - why have these people and government decided that it was the images that sent this individual 'over the edge'?

Was he not mentally ill? Was the woman involved a consenting partner where something went tragically wrong? Was she murdered by a deranged loonatic? Why 'images' from a website sent this person over the edge to kill?

There are so many questions to ask - and we are not privvy to the court notes as yet, the case has been sent back to the court of appeal by the Law Lords because manslaughter was not offered to the jury - (3rd degree murder).

I may be naive but images don't do this - a sick mind who is in need of serious help does! When all comes out it will be interesting, but how on earth they are going to police this is beyond me. I can see the chief-constables rolling their eyes backward agast that they are now to try to convict a person with such wishy-washy law. If you read the BBC news article you will see "The new law will not target those who accidentally come into contact with obscene pornography or affect mainstream entertainment industry working within current obscenity laws."

But - welcome to the British Republic of China ~


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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 9:00:47 AM   
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I do feel sympathies with the parents of the girl involved but I find this knee jerk reaction to this abhorrant to be honest. This is becoming puritanism, the true problem with it is the assumption that ordinary people cannot be trusted to make up their own minds.
Did this mentally ill man have sex at all? if so should we band sex?
Welcome to the police state and for those of you still here reading this welcome to the underground!!!

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 3:35:25 PM   
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how far are they going to take such things? are they going to come down on people for possesing pictures of themselves and am i going to get into trouble because i have violent pictures of myself on my computer? Where you can see marks left from a partner?

of course its a tragedy for anybody to loose a member of a family, but i totally agree with Sab, it's a sick mind that takes a person over the edge to commit murder an image in front of them doesn't make them do it.

carzyness indeed, whats possibly next...? 

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 6:46:24 PM   
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Sadly it does apply to annyone in the UK producing, publishing or even just posessing "violent sexual" material. There will be testcases of course to determine where the line is - but reading the law, its much more than just "consent", as acts that look

For instance from the law:
"By actual scenes or depictions which appear to be real acts, we intend to catch material which either is genuinely violent or conveys a realistic impression of fear, violence and harm"

So, if it just looks like violence, consensual or not, its forbidden. This will be devastating to BDSM people & related niches surely...and the penalties are severe: 3years in prison for possession, 5years for producing.

I suppose it´d be wise for me to stop shooting in the UK :(
You can read more here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/30_08_05_porn_doc.pdf

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 6:48:14 PM   
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This is crazy, what someone views does not send them over the edge to commit a crime.  I like breath play but when you've had enough its glaringly obvious IMO.  Anyone who goes far enough to kill someone has time to react and prevent death.  Surely if he was interested in her life the tie would have at least been removed from her neck and some sign of the attempt to revive her would have been found as well.  (Please correct me if I am wrong but I seem to recall she was still tied when she was found.)

To me what occured in this case had nothing to do with bsdm or images, but a man that was capable of a crime. 

Perhaps even some of the images he had access to, even if not intended for that, helped save lives by satisfying him on some level?

Where is the line drawn?  Geez on some more 'Nilla' type nights I am left with marks that take a lot longer then 24 hours to fade completely, I would hate to come down to being afraid to seek medical attention or whatnot for something else out of fear of being found out when it comes to my SAFE sexual preferences.

You start making laws about things like this, the lines become blurred and NOBODY is safe from persecution.

Disgusting. This is worse then the case of the freaking hot mcnugget, should restaurants be banned because someone could get hurt?


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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 6:53:49 PM   
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So what about mainstream movie clips showing a sexy actress being abducted, her sweat-soaked shirt ripped, eyes wide as the masked intruder ties her up, leaving her to be rescued by her cute, lesbian friends?

Think I know what you did last summer et al.

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 7:02:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

So what about mainstream movie clips showing a sexy actress being abducted, her sweat-soaked shirt ripped, eyes wide as the masked intruder ties her up, leaving her to be rescued by her cute, lesbian friends?

Think I know what you did last summer et al.

Yours,


benji


they´ve conveniently put in that clause about "art works and material intented for mainstream cinemas etc" being excempt from the law -> so its going straight after the porn/sexual end of it. (as thats a much easier target of course)

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/30/2006 8:08:18 PM   
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It's a sad fact that society is looking for convienant excuses for "disgusting behavior" nowadays.  I't no ones fault why people do bad things so it must be the (music, video games, movies sexual interests take your pick).  If you can blame it on a faceless item you don't have to say they did it because they were fucked in the head.  PC is they tsunami of the future, I'm waiting to score a real big case of taking a bribe so I can say "it's not my fault, it's the politicians I listen to so we should ban them".

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/31/2006 12:53:37 AM   
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It’s by no means certain that this law will be passed and if it is, it may be altered further. The government have already backed down from their original proposals during the consultation process because of pressure from BDSM organizations and individuals (such as spanner and unfettered) and freedom of speech proponents. They even had to acknowledge that the majority of response to the consultation were against the idea.

Originally the proposals would have probably made illegal pictures of anything covered by the spanner decision. I.e. pictures of anything producing injures that are more than transient and trifling (needle play, bruising etc) and might have going as far as covering anything illegal to publish under the Obscene Publications act.

The proposals that they are now going to put before parliament only cover sexual images that feature serious violence that appear mean appears to be life threatening or likely to result in serious, disabling injury. However they’ve made it clear that this would include pictures of breath play (what the legislation was original aimed at) and rape scenes, and probably would catch many pictures of knife play, water bondage and heavy sadism where a jury might consider there was a risk of serious harm even though we would not. It also covers pictures of bestiality (all you k9 fans watch out) and necrophilia.

Once this proposed law comes into force it's entirely possible that the police might mount an Ore type Operation using credit card details from sites which they think host images that fall foul of the law. IMHO alt would count as one of these sites as would insex and other popular BDSM haunts. Such details would be enough to obtain a warrant to search people's home and computer. There is not much people can do about their online credit card usage in the past being used in this way. The thing we can do now is support campaigns to block or amend the law as it goes through parliament.

See the campaign website www.backlash-uk-org.uk for ideas (under ‘How you can help ‘). At the very least people should be writing to their mps using some of the example arguments against this law and phoning/txting emailing any TV or radio programs that features this.

It will be at least a year before this comes into force. It has to go through parliament at least twice, a committee stage and the lords even if it gets enough time. We can fight this if we really want to and with much less risk of individuals being outted than once this law comes into force.

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/31/2006 4:31:38 AM   
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You might also visit http://www.spannertrust.org/ 
This isn't Law yet - but it will take considerable weight of opinion to change things.
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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/31/2006 12:18:19 PM   
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I have been active in this lifestyle all my adult years, but may I remind you just how effective images are on the mind, if it were not so, then we would not view porn at all, nor would we be stimulated by any erotic image. Not only can an image "send you over the edge", but many documented cases, globaly, and throughout recorded history, have shown that this is the case.
Please do not misunderstand me, I will fight tooth and nail, to defend mine and O/our right to live the life we do, in whatever aspect, but do not be fooled into believing that we cannot be curtailed, for it is possible.
The Guradian writer, Frank Fisher, said it well today. "See no evil - The government should stay out of the bedroom - and the dungeon." but out,ines how easily it will happen if they wish it to.

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/31/2006 12:25:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adommeforu
Not only can an image "send you over the edge", but many documented cases, globaly, and throughout recorded history, have shown that this is the case.


Jeffrey Dalmer used to watch 'Return of the Jedi' to psyche himself up before going out to kill.

There is no evidence that sexual images, violent or not, particularly effect people in such a way. The UK government themselves admit this in their proposal.

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/31/2006 1:14:11 PM   
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Pornography has significant negative impact: 1. Pornography facilitates child molestation.



* It is used to instruct the child victims, reduce their natural inhibitions, and it is used to prepare and arouse the perpetrator.
* 87% of convicted molesters of girls, and 77% of convicted molesters of boys, admit to the use of pornography, most often in the commission of their crimes.
* One in three American girls and 1 in 5-7 American boys will be sexually molested by the age of 18.
* An average serial child molester has between 360-380 victims in his lifetime.
* One of the most popular pornographic video series in America, entitled "Taboo," is based upon incest.
* More and more media reports tell of the tragic exploitation of innocent children. Even more tragic is the rise of not only child victims, but of child perpetrators. Pornography is their instruction manual.


2. Pornography shapes attitudes, behaviors and values.



* Individuals who view pornography are more likely to think of women in stereotype, as socially non-discriminating and eager to accommodate any and every sexual request.
* Individuals who view pornography are more likely to have sexually callous attitudes and accept rape myths (that when a woman says "no," she means "yes.")
* Individuals who use pornography have increasingly hostile and aggressive sexual fantasies.
* Individuals who use pornography are less likely to convict for a rape, and less likely to give a harsh sentence to a rapist if in fact convicted. Conversely, individuals who do not use pornography are more likely to convict an accused rapist.
* Areas with pornography outlets and sexually oriented businesses experience significantly higher sexual offenses and property crimes than areas without such businesses.
* Pornography has a direct role in the transmission and encouragement of sexually transmitted diseases. Many "adult" bookstores derive 75% of their income from peep show booths, with "glory holes" to provide anonymous sexual encounters.
* Clinical research shows that pornographic images create chemically encoded messages on the brain that can remain through adulthood. Human memory is formed in part by the release of the chemical epinephrine which, upon emotional arousal, leaves behind an imprint on the brain.**
* Advertisers know how compelling images are, especially to children, and pornographers do, too. Advertisers don’t spend billions of dollars each year for nothing. In Superbowls 29 and 30, companies paid 1.3 million dollars for a 30-second shot at your attention on the way to the kitchen or bathroom.**
* Images affect attitudes and thinking, and images affect behavior and choices.


3. Pornography has a compulsive or addictive nature. Four stages of viewing pornography following initial exposure are:



* Addiction - The desire and need to keep coming back for pornographic images.
* Escalation - The need for more explicit, rougher, and more deviant images for the same sexual effect.
* Desensitization - Materiel once viewed as shocking or taboo is seen as acceptable or commonplace.
* Acting out - The tendency to perform the behaviors viewed, including exhibitionism, sadistic/masochistic sex, group sex, rape, or sex with minor children.
* Dr. Victor Cline, clinical psychologist at the University of Utah, said that pornography is the gateway drug to sexual addiction."
* In a study of 932 sex addicts, 90% of the men and 77% of the women indicated that pornography played a significant role in their addiction.

B. Internet pornography is both prevalent and easily accessible by children.


* Teens use the Internet an average of 8.5 hours per week for chatting and e-mailing, compared to 1.8 hours spent using it for school work.
* An estimated 18.8 million kids under 18-years-old have access to home computers.
* "Adult" entertainment on the Internet is the third largest sector of sales, surpassed only by computer products and travel.
* Playboy’s web site, which offers free teaser shots of its Playmates, averages 5 million hits per day.
* After the Supreme Court overturned the indecency provisions of the Communications Decency Act, Penthouse posted the following statement on its web site: "With these words, the Supreme Court struck a blow for Liberty, and cleared the way for Penthouse to build the Ultimate Empire of Sex on the Internet...The Supreme Court has defended your right to Freedom of Sexual Expression on the Internet...Now we at Penthouse will do our part to deliver it!"
* In August, 1997, there were 72,000 sexually explicit sites on the Internet, and an estimated 266 new porn sites every day.
* The vast majority of Americans (94%) believe a ban on Internet pornography should be legal.
* UNICEF estimates that one million children are forced into prostitution or used to produce pornography each year. Many are handed over (or sold) by their families driven by the extremes of poverty....The Internet also has given dealers in child pornography a far bigger audience--and anonymity.
* We now have no legal means to protect children from sexually explicit material on the Internet. The door has been flung open wide for pornographers and sexual predators.
 
Also see, "Policing the Internet" Nothing has changed.
Policing the Internet conference was organised to look at what can, and should be done to combat violence and pornography on the Internet. The two day conference was part-funded by the European Union and was held by the Association of London Government on 13-14 February 1997 in London. The aim of the conference was to focus on the technical and moral issues around policing, legality and censorship to tackle the growing amount of and ever easier access to violence and pornography on the Internet. The conference, chaired by Sue Cameron, looked in particular at what can be done about the increasing amount of violence against women and children, and will draw up a proposal to put to the European Union to influence European policy on tackling violence and pornography on the Internet.
The conference follows two recent papers prepared by the European Commission - the Communication on Illegal and Harmful Content on the Internet, Com (96) 487 and the Green Paper on the, Protection of Minors and Human Dignity in Audiovisual and Information Services , Com (96) 483
First European Conference on Combating Violence and Pornography on the Internet
A two day European Conference organised by the Association of London Government ('ALG')
13-14 February 1997

 

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 8/31/2006 3:06:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adommeforu

Pornography has significant negative impact: 1. Pornography facilitates child molestation.






* It is used to instruct the child victims, reduce their natural inhibitions, and it is used to prepare and arouse the perpetrator.
* 87% of convicted molesters of girls, and 77% of convicted molesters of boys, admit to the use of pornography, most often in the commission of their crimes.
* One in three American girls and 1 in 5-7 American boys will be sexually molested by the age of 18.
* An average serial child molester has between 360-380 victims in his lifetime.
* One of the most popular pornographic video series in America, entitled "Taboo," is based upon incest.
* More and more media reports tell of the tragic exploitation of innocent children. Even more tragic is the rise of not only child victims, but of child perpetrators. Pornography is their instruction manual.



2. Pornography shapes attitudes, behaviors and values.





* Individuals who view pornography are more likely to think of women in stereotype, as socially non-discriminating and eager to accommodate any and every sexual request.
* Individuals who view pornography are more likely to have sexually callous attitudes and accept rape myths (that when a woman says "no," she means "yes.")
* Individuals who use pornography have increasingly hostile and aggressive sexual fantasies.
* Individuals who use pornography are less likely to convict for a rape, and less likely to give a harsh sentence to a rapist if in fact convicted. Conversely, individuals who do not use pornography are more likely to convict an accused rapist.
* Areas with pornography outlets and sexually oriented businesses experience significantly higher sexual offenses and property crimes than areas without such businesses.
* Pornography has a direct role in the transmission and encouragement of sexually transmitted diseases. Many "adult" bookstores derive 75% of their income from peep show booths, with "glory holes" to provide anonymous sexual encounters.
* Clinical research shows that pornographic images create chemically encoded messages on the brain that can remain through adulthood. Human memory is formed in part by the release of the chemical epinephrine which, upon emotional arousal, leaves behind an imprint on the brain.**
* Advertisers know how compelling images are, especially to children, and pornographers do, too. Advertisers don’t spend billions of dollars each year for nothing. In Superbowls 29 and 30, companies paid 1.3 million dollars for a 30-second shot at your attention on the way to the kitchen or bathroom.**
* Images affect attitudes and thinking, and images affect behavior and choices.



3. Pornography has a compulsive or addictive nature. Four stages of viewing pornography following initial exposure are:





* Addiction - The desire and need to keep coming back for pornographic images.
* Escalation - The need for more explicit, rougher, and more deviant images for the same sexual effect.
* Desensitization - Materiel once viewed as shocking or taboo is seen as acceptable or commonplace.
* Acting out - The tendency to perform the behaviors viewed, including exhibitionism, sadistic/masochistic sex, group sex, rape, or sex with minor children.
* Dr. Victor Cline, clinical psychologist at the University of Utah, said that pornography is the gateway drug to sexual addiction."
* In a study of 932 sex addicts, 90% of the men and 77% of the women indicated that pornography played a significant role in their addiction.

B. Internet pornography is both prevalent and easily accessible by children.




* Teens use the Internet an average of 8.5 hours per week for chatting and e-mailing, compared to 1.8 hours spent using it for school work.
* An estimated 18.8 million kids under 18-years-old have access to home computers.
* "Adult" entertainment on the Internet is the third largest sector of sales, surpassed only by computer products and travel.
* Playboy’s web site, which offers free teaser shots of its Playmates, averages 5 million hits per day.
* After the Supreme Court overturned the indecency provisions of the Communications Decency Act, Penthouse posted the following statement on its web site: "With these words, the Supreme Court struck a blow for Liberty, and cleared the way for Penthouse to build the Ultimate Empire of Sex on the Internet...The Supreme Court has defended your right to Freedom of Sexual Expression on the Internet...Now we at Penthouse will do our part to deliver it!"
* In August, 1997, there were 72,000 sexually explicit sites on the Internet, and an estimated 266 new porn sites every day.
* The vast majority of Americans (94%) believe a ban on Internet pornography should be legal.
* UNICEF estimates that one million children are forced into prostitution or used to produce pornography each year. Many are handed over (or sold) by their families driven by the extremes of poverty....The Internet also has given dealers in child pornography a far bigger audience--and anonymity.
* We now have no legal means to protect children from sexually explicit material on the Internet. The door has been flung open wide for pornographers and sexual predators.
 
Also see, "Policing the Internet" Nothing has changed.
Policing the Internet conference was organised to look at what can, and should be done to combat violence and pornography on the Internet. The two day conference was part-funded by the European Union and was held by the Association of London Government on 13-14 February 1997 in London. The aim of the conference was to focus on the technical and moral issues around policing, legality and censorship to tackle the growing amount of and ever easier access to violence and pornography on the Internet. The conference, chaired by Sue Cameron, looked in particular at what can be done about the increasing amount of violence against women and children, and will draw up a proposal to put to the European Union to influence European policy on tackling violence and pornography on the Internet.
The conference follows two recent papers prepared by the European Commission - the Communication on Illegal and Harmful Content on the Internet, Com (96) 487 and the Green Paper on the, Protection of Minors and Human Dignity in Audiovisual and Information Services , Com (96) 483
First European Conference on Combating Violence and Pornography on the Internet
A two day European Conference organised by the Association of London Government ('ALG')
13-14 February 1997

 




Hypersexual psychotics like the guy that inspired this law would be a murderous deviant in a culture with no Pornography I believe.

As for the statistics on porn from so called experts I wanted to know who funded the study. Was it some Christian family values outfit or an actual scientific study divorced from some social agenda? This group that founded the study looks to be like a feminist group that told the government what they wanted to hear.   

As for violent porn increasing I believe it’s stayed about the same there’s only a small amount of fetishist that get off on snuff, Mutilation and other very brutal themes  (with the possible exception of rape sites).

The reason I believe this is economic if there was 1000,s of costumers and the porn of this type so addictive wouldn’t there be 1000,s of Russian sites offering this type of content? There aren’t because there’s more money in regular bondage, light BDSM and even more to be made in vanilla sex sites.
 
http://www.culturevulture.net/Movies7/Demonlover.htm
Demonlover was a movie about how in the future (now basically) violent porn would be on of the worlds largest industries, this didn’t happen of course in real life because it has very limited appeal.


Under age porn and addiction to porn maybe real problems for some people. Will something like a law stop them? Does the war on drugs stop anyone from smoking pot that really wants to? You can not legislate morality you can just pass laws to make all the people that don’t like porn think they are magically protected from it.


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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 9/1/2006 7:26:03 AM   
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For some reason - some, but not all, believe that this kind of activity began the same day that the internet was switched on! It wasn't - all you have to do is look at the relevant history books - look into the real Victoriana and see what kind of mental bastards they were!

Pornography has been around as long as the human race, OK - that may be chronologically incorrect, 30 seconds after.  What is wrong with the people who look into this bile is as simple as the nose on our faces - they wish to control the very actions that all and anyone can do - pumping out statistics is one way of keeping university graduates in work, but it's as pointless as saying a politician is honest!

Looking at porn has no effect on a person who can judge right from wrong! What we have to defer to others is that THEIR culture may be significantly different from ours so we have to be tolerant of that - we DON'T have to indulge in it.

What those who spout statistics do is to lobby that their case it the valid one, no more no less - if you wish to buy into that, good on you! But I, for one don't - in a sample of one hundred virgins 100% said they had not had sex - hence sex is a no, no to virgins - so how do we procreate?

Do another sample question - ask how many alcholics have had a drink in the last 20 years, the results will surprise you.


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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 9/1/2006 8:34:05 AM   
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Jeffrey Dalmer used to watch 'Return of the Jedi' to psyche himself up before going out to kill.
As somone pointed out on another forum, David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) claimed that his neighbors dog told him to kill people. Theirfore the government needs to ban dogs.


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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 9/1/2006 9:43:04 AM   
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If images of 'violent' behavior are going to send you over the edge, you're too close to it already.

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RE: Goverment bans "violent porn" - 9/1/2006 9:58:50 AM   
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  • On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner.16
  • Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
  • Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause18 , and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.19
  • Research suggests that injury related deaths, including homicide and suicide, account for approximately one-third of all maternal mortality cases, while medical reasons make up the rest. But, homicide is the leading cause of death overall for pregnant women, followed by cancer, acute and chronic respiratory conditions, motor vehicle collisions and drug overdose, peripartum and postpartum cardiomyopthy, and suicide.20
http://www.endabuse.org/resources/facts/

I'l have to do some research, but I'm willing to bet that the average vanilla married woman is at greater risk of abuse and/or death than the average BDSM enthusiast.

Not that there aren't problems, here's a good breakdown of concerns:

http://www.fetishexchange.org/prof04b.shtml

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