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CrappyDom -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 8:34:48 AM)

I guess that will be the last we hear from sub4hire in this thread.  Funny how when called on her BS she just disapears.  Me, you can't get rid of!



sub4hire -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 9:40:51 AM)

I merely choose to take the responsible adult role when other's cannot seem to.
You are a prime example.

Sorry you dislike me so much all because I did call you on your crap in one thread a while back.  You then disappeared for many week's.

Either way, I can care less.  If you like me or you do not.  I know what I do and I know my facts even if there are people who would prefer to bury their heads in the dirt for eternity.  Yet continue to spout off.

Sorry but I will be the dom here for you crappy.



CrappyDom -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 1:23:35 PM)

sub4hire,

Then be an adult and step up to the plate and back your comments up with some facts.  I and others have done so and would welcome your attempt at a rebuttal.



kentaro1980 -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 4:22:34 PM)

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I would gladly pay that if it that 7 bucks included my medical care like it does for you.

I can't speak for the UK, but Germany in average has a much higher tax rate. In fact, my parents, both holding very normal paying officejobs see only 55% of every Euro they earn.
You are somewhat right with your comment though :) German's 70% taxrate on fuel does finance the retirementfunds of the government.



LeMis -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 7:12:54 PM)

$2.46 a gallon this afternoon, filled both gas guzzlers



painpup -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 7:20:31 PM)

hello this a responce to all ever hear of the tiltoson carberator it only had 3 moving parts an could get over 70miles per gal on a straight 6 performance realllllllllllllllll good that was in the days of leaded fuel as well hmm well the end of this story goes like this one of the big three bought the rights an the inventor died mysteriously  nuff said



CrappyDom -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 8:38:47 PM)

The reason I don't buy the whole "super carborator" or any of the other BS is that the Japanese are having Detroit for lunch because of the superior fuel effeciency of their cars.  Since the day of Japan just being copycats is over, either Detroit is too stupid to use the super carborator, and or Japan can't make it work (something I just cannot buy) then it is a simple urban legend.

That said, I know that Detroit bought out all the urban rail transit lines and ripped them out to encourage use of cars so it isn't like I am blind.



Dtesmoac -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 9:19:44 PM)

Yep free medical is an excellent benefit but does not provide for all of the possible medical requirements and there is an interesing piece in the telegraph web page www.telegraph.co.uk about how some expensive cancer drugs are rationed on the NHS.  But I still think the NHS beets the US medical system. $100 for 5 mins with a doctor is insane even if I only pay the $25 contribution.

Of course I only have to do half the distance in the UK compared with the US to actually get somewhere by road. But it take s the same time due to traffic congestion.



Lordandmaster -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/1/2006 9:54:01 PM)

Some hybrid SUV's, like the Ford Escape, get better gas mileage than ordinary sedans.  You can't just boycott a whole category of vehicle.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

i DONT drive an SUV- and i limit my errands.



cloudboy -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/3/2006 2:58:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You can't just boycott a whole category of vehicle.



I certainly hope to. I can't stand'em. Of course my personal boycotts don't effect a great deal of social changes.



Daddy4UdderSlut -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/3/2006 3:32:21 PM)

I think it's safe to say we will see a return to smaller, less powerful cars here, and probably continued growth in hybrids.  Until the recent runup, inflation-adjusted gas prices were actually very cheap by historical standards**, and as a result the vehicles were heavier and more powerful than they have ever been.  There will be an adjustment now - it'll take some time for model lines to be adjusted and more fuel efficient models to displace gas hogs in service though.  On the bright side, if you want a behemoth SUV, or a monster pickup to tow your boat, now is a good time to pick one up cheap. ;-).

** http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm



LadyEllen -> RE: USA bitch here per GAS costs ! (9/4/2006 3:33:18 AM)

Hi All

This is going a bit off topic, but might be interesting in the present discussion.

UK taxes - we are the biggest oil producer in the EU, but we have the highest fuel costs - and yes, this is because of tax and duty. (Its the same with cigarettes and booze). Around 3/4 of the price of one litre of petrol (GBP 0-99 last week/litre = GBP 4-50 per gallon), goes to the government, so around GBP 3-40 for every gallon is tax. There are something like 25 million cars in the UK (last time I heard), and assuming each uses one tank of 50 litres per two weeks (a big underestimate considering that the car is the only viable form of transport here), thats GBP 465 million in taxes on personal vehicle fuel, per week, or about GBP 25 billion per year.

Add in road tax (a charge for using the roads, and yet they are now talking about road use charging) - this varies according to engine size and cleanliness, but as a round figure lets choose GBP 100-00 as a low average per vehicle per year. Thats GBP 2.5 billion per year. Now, insurance for driving - yes there's a tax on that too - its low of course (2% or so I think), but driving insurance costs a lot here and if we said GBP 250-00 as a low average per year per vehicle, thats GBP 5-00 tax per vehicle = another GBP 125 million per year. And then, roadworthiness tests and repairs - all of which have VAT at 17.5% on them. Assuming repairs etc of GBP 500-00 per vehicle per year, thats nearly GBP 2 billion per year in VAT on repairs.

Total government revenue from personal car use = c. GBP 30 billion per year. Now, why is it again that the government chooses to do nothing to solve the dire public transport system here in the UK?

The national health service by the way, is (or at least is meant to be) paid for via a 9% deduction at source from wages (plus an 11% contribution from the employer). On top of this the average income tax deducted on top of that 9% at source, is 20%. Assuming 20 million workers in the UK, and the average salary of GBP 25k per year gross, that means each employment on average generates GBP 5000-00 per year for the health service or in total GBP 100,000,000,000-00 per year. This does not include government revenue raised by income tax, which is around twice that figure.

And then, we have ignored taxes on domestic businesses, international businesses operating from here, tax on savings and investments, TV licence (a tax used to pay for the BBC), tax on electric and gas, local taxes and the best tax of all - death duty and inheritance tax, which now affects not the rich but ordinary working people who already paid tax on the assets they built up over their life.

Oh yes, the UK is a great place to live in alright, but then it costs a lot of money to pretend to be a world power when one is just an island offshore from Europe.
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