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Sirandlittle1 -> pain and laughing? (9/2/2006 9:49:12 PM)

Recently, the amount of pain being given me, has increased. Im enjoying this immensly, if you can say that about pain. But im reacting in a way that i dont understand, and is not pleasing to him. Im giggling and laughing. Its not because i think its funny, its just once we hit a certain level of intensity, i start laughing. The result of this is that it takes him out of his space, and disrupts play to a certain extent.
This usually occurs right on the edge of what i can take. Im in a situation where a safe word is acceptable and welcomed if necessary. So its not a get out clause on my part. Id really like to stop it, but havent been able to work out how.
 
Any thoughts or similar experiences?
littleone




MasterWolfBdsm -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/2/2006 10:06:33 PM)

Hello,

When you are about to get to that level, instead of going 1 more level of pain, go 2 or 3, which will cause a scream rather than laugh. If you do this on and off several times in different days, your body will not know when the edge is coming or if it is already more than the edge.

That is what I would do, I hope it helps.
John




mistoferin -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/2/2006 10:23:47 PM)

Ever heard that there is a fine line between tears and laughter? That is really a true statement and it's origins are physical. Ever laughed so hard you started to cry uncontrollably? Both laughter and crying are involuntary motor responses that act as a way to burn the “fuel” of excitants. They also both trigger the release of our own chemical painkillers into the system.




Mavis -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/2/2006 10:51:47 PM)

Mind if i ask what's your history on sub-space?  i notice i do that if i am just on the edge of spacing, some expression of last minute jangles before i take off.




mistoferin -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 5:25:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mavis

Mind if i ask what's your history on sub-space?  i notice i do that if i am just on the edge of spacing, some expression of last minute jangles before i take off.


Mine or the OP's?




Littlepita -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 6:33:22 AM)

I laugh when the pain gets to be to much. Not always, but there are times the laughter hits me and it takes over. I love it and so does my Dom. For me it's such a release of emotions and it helps me take the pain that has almost become too much for me. We just go with it and have a great time. [:)]





Mavis -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 7:17:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Mine or the OP's?


lol.  that was clear as mud heh?  The OPs.




sleazybutterfly -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 9:17:16 AM)

I do this also.  I have this little giggle thing that hits, and it does it more when being slapped in the face.  I have often wondered if it really bothers them, but I haven't gotten the impression that it does.
 
I haven't been able to stop it.  I think it's just my bodies natural reaction, and it's just because the pain/pleasure is almost too much.
 
Maybe He ought to look at it like that, He is causing you so much pain/pleasure that you can't control how you react.




ImpGrrl -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 9:38:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1

Recently, the amount of pain being given me, has increased. Im enjoying this immensly, if you can say that about pain. But im reacting in a way that i dont understand, and is not pleasing to him. Im giggling and laughing. Its not because i think its funny, its just once we hit a certain level of intensity, i start laughing. The result of this is that it takes him out of his space, and disrupts play to a certain extent.
This usually occurs right on the edge of what i can take. Im in a situation where a safe word is acceptable and welcomed if necessary. So its not a get out clause on my part. Id really like to stop it, but havent been able to work out how.
 
Any thoughts or similar experiences?
littleone


It sounds like he needs to understand that this is part of how you process pain.  If he learns to accept it and roll with it, you could both get much more enjoyment out of play.




kodyrox5342 -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 9:32:41 PM)

I know before I knew about D/s and everything i could see myself doing this. i would be laughing and in tears at the same time. i really couldnt tell you why i did it either, i think part of it was not knowing why i enjoyed it at that point, but i really dont know the true reason




mogigo -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/3/2006 9:59:04 PM)

I found that when I hit a level of pain that I didn't think I would enjoy I kinda of laugh at myself because I'm so shocked I like it. Kind of, ho ho ho holeeee fuck I like that.




ChainedExistence -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/4/2006 3:20:29 AM)

Master and I have had this happen, and believe me, there was nothing I found funny at the moment! In my case, the laughter is more hysterical in nature- I cannot simply stop doing so at will. He knows this is what can occur when I am close to spacing, that  it has nothing to do with humor, and is more of an autonomic response to the pain. If both of you can learn to appreciate it as a sign of where you are in the process, then it shouldn't be viewed as negative. The fact that it is an unexpected response is what is throwing the two of you. In doing some research on the brain, the pleasure and pain center is located in the same region, and that pain is in all liklihood triggering the laughter. Think of it as your brain on pain overload- throwing out any random response it has available...laughter is just one of those before it goes into the safety net of spacing to relieve the pain. Don't beat yourself up for what you feel or how you respond. Everyone responds in different ways at different times. Even day to day, your body is going to process that pain differently. That's part of the beauty of the journey...you're never quite sure of where it's going to take you.




cinnfulhussy -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/4/2006 7:43:00 AM)

I laugh and giggle when  fly from the endorphins produced by certain consentual pains. To me its almo like being drunk.    Its normal, as far as I'm concerned.  There are many different responses.  Some become non-comunicative, some belligerant, some giggly, it really just depends on the individual.




Celeste43 -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/4/2006 5:25:05 PM)

It's not uncommon and it's not anything you can control. However you do need to make him aware that when you hit this point, you're also at your limit. This way he can ease things off a bit so the scene doesn't end.




mnottertail -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/4/2006 5:29:31 PM)

I used to own someone that laughed at any pain, theirs or yours, if she saw somebody fall down the stairsshe erupted, if she fell down the stairs, she erupted........

She also had asthma, not coolio.........now I know that look.

Ron




Tikkiee -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/4/2006 5:33:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirandlittle1

Recently, the amount of pain being given me, has increased. Im enjoying this immensly, if you can say that about pain. But im reacting in a way that i dont understand, and is not pleasing to him. Im giggling and laughing. Its not because i think its funny, its just once we hit a certain level of intensity, i start laughing. The result of this is that it takes him out of his space, and disrupts play to a certain extent.
This usually occurs right on the edge of what i can take. Im in a situation where a safe word is acceptable and welcomed if necessary. So its not a get out clause on my part. Id really like to stop it, but havent been able to work out how.
 
Any thoughts or similar experiences?
littleone

Hmm, I have done that on occassion. Burst out laughing for no reason other than that the pain has reached an intensity that I am unfamiliar with. The first time it happened, my ex stopped dead, unsure of how to proceed. The second time, he kept going just to see what would come next.
/shrug
We found that it was just an uncontrolled reaction on my part. Most probably, you are going to find that the more you try to control this ( stop it in other words ), the more you will laugh.
Flow with it, that's what I would I do.
 
( My ex used to go from tickling me unmercilessly to sharp pain; and then back to tickling just to keep me off balance. Pain and laughter...they are both good :) And when together, can be quite beautiful.  )




afeathr -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/4/2006 10:46:35 PM)

I was taught, as a child, to laugh whenever I was in pain.  Now, I have what's call "inappropriate affect" which means that I smile or laugh out of context with the situation.  Knowing this, I made sure to tell Sir that this was the case so that when I laugh during scening He is aware that I am not laughing at him or the situation, but because it is hurting.  The more it hurts, the louder I laugh.  If you have a history of this, you may have the same issue, but if this is new, it's probably a physical response to the pain and may pass with an increase in the pain...




juliaoceania -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/5/2006 7:26:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ImpGrrl


It sounds like he needs to understand that this is part of how you process pain.  If he learns to accept it and roll with it, you could both get much more enjoyment out of play.


I laugh when I am spanked sometimes and it is how I process pain. My Daddy had another submissive that did this too, so when I started laughing and I could not stop he explained this was not only normal, it made it more fun for him. He thinks it is cute. 

With my former dominant everything was always so serious during play that a giggle never came out of me, but I was always thinking about doing exactly as he said and focused on this instead of the pain on my backside. My Daddy does things that will make me focus on the pain, such as alternating fur with stinging my rump, which makes it hurt more, and when I cannot stop my brain from processing pain I laugh... I think this is part of his goal.

Personally, I could not suppress the laughter at this point with how he inflicts pain on me because he disallows my brain to focus on other things, I guess I would suggest that you focus on doing exactly as you are told and not give over to the whipping if he is dead set against you giggling, or ask him to read some of these responses and realize that it is almost like a reflexive response and maybe he needs to decide what is more important.. giving into the pain receptors in the brain or not giggling... because it may come down to that sort of choice for you. I think I could quit laughing if I had to, but it would mean focusing my mind on something else.. perhaps you can do it without that? Let us know if you figure out how not to laugh anymore and how you accomplished that.. it would be extremely informative for me...Good luck




kitty2MLoneWolf -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/5/2006 8:14:37 AM)

This happened to me for the first time a couple of weeks ago..I also new a bottom who when played hard would start giggling like mad..it was simply her response to the pain. It is not controllable. My Sir found it amusing and was able to laugh as well while He continued to whip me. It was great!..

When the bottom would start giggling.. everyone in the dungeon just smiled and said "There goes Marlene"... :)




MasterHypnotist -> RE: pain and laughing? (9/5/2006 8:17:34 AM)

This is a nod to the idea that extreme sensation can create laughter. Pain’s purpose is to acknowledge discomfort and remove yourself from whatever is causing the pain. Sometimes this need creates extraordinary responses, such as endurance, determination, or extraordinary strength. When the pain is severe or prolonged, adrenalin and endorphins are released to help the body cope with the taxing situation. In other words, pain is your unconscious mind and bodies’ safe word to have whatever is happening, stop! SM practices simply remove the masochist’s ability to leave the pain. This causes the body to expend its resources of adrenalin and endorphins and explains the tiredness, exhaustion, and if you have sore muscles at the end of play. Masochists become addicted to the endorphin release in much the same way danger junkies become addicted to their jobs or hobbies.
 
I am not degrading your kink. I am an endorphin junky, too. I just give and get mine through extreme pleasure. I laugh during especially intense orgasms. When this first happened, I was so happy that my pet did not take offense. In fact, when we are out in the vanilla world, I laugh at something funny she can say, “I love it when you laugh!”, and we both know she has said so much more than what other people have heard.
 
All the best,
 
MH




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