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A bit of news - 9/3/2006 10:18:35 AM   
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By ALICIA A. CALDWELL, Associated Press WriterSun Sep 3, 2:23 AM ET

An Army investigator has recommended that four soldiers accused of murder in a raid in Iraq should face the death penalty if convicted, according to a report obtained Saturday by The Associated Press.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060903/ap_on_re_us/iraq_soldiers_charged

Cambodia passes adultery law, opposition walks out



Fri Sep 1, 10:08 AM ET

Cambodia's parliament passed a law Friday which could send adulterers to jail for up to a year.

The vote prompted a walkout by opposition lawmakers who said the law carried echoes of the Khmer Rouge and the Taliban in a country which should be tackling poverty and corruption instead of legislating about morality.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060901/od_nm/cambodia_adultery_dc

Vigilante mob beats and kills wrong man
 
MARSHVILLE, North Carolina (AP) -- An angry mob fatally beat a man whom they mistakenly thought was involved in the disappearance of their friend, shortly before police arrested and charged another person in the crime, police said.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/02/fatal.beating.ap

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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 12:05:43 PM   
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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 12:43:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I say Nay to the first bit, and the second, and I think the third is just plain tragic.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 12:46:17 PM   
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I say Nay to the first bit, and the second, and I think the third is just plain tragic.

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You naysayer, you.  I second the nays, and the sorrow of the third.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 12:58:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		What are those Cambodians thinking? (hit side of my own head in frustration). I'd think they'd be a little  more concerned with all of the sex with underage unmentionables they make available to Americans and others willing to travel abroad and pay for it, too, instead of focussing on adultery. It's worse than it is in Thailand, as far as that goes, I heard last week on MSNBC. 

And in the case of the first bit, our own military is going a bit overboard, in the name of PR, dontcha think?

- Susan

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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 1:01:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't believe in the death penalty for anything and I wouldn't change my mind because soldiers have commited a crime in a war I disagree with. They should be tried, which I think is a good thing and sentenced to terms of imprisonment if found guilty but no death penalty.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 1:02:44 PM   
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What are those Cambodians thinking? (hit side of my own head in frustration).

And in the case of the first bit, our own military is going a bit overboard, in the name of PR, dontcha think?

- Susan


Well, as their opposistion claimed, they're trying to divert attention from far more pressing problems, which sounds right to me.
 
As to the possible death penalty for the soldiers; I don't support the death penalty, but if they're guilty of what they're charged with, they need to pay a heavy price. War is horrible, and things happen, but I don't want to see murder excused.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 1:04:34 PM   
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I don't believe in the death penalty for anything and I wouldn't change my mind because soldiers have commited a crime in a war I disagree with. They should be tried, which I think is a good thing and sentenced to terms of imprisonment if found guilty but no death penalty.


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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 1:04:35 PM   
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What are those Cambodians thinking? (hit side of my own head in frustration).

And in the case of the first bit, our own military is going a bit overboard, in the name of PR, dontcha think?

- Susan


Well, as their opposistion claimed, they're trying to divert attention from far more pressing problems, which sounds right to me.
 
*It's just a sad country. I'm glad I don't live there. My stepson was adopted from there.

 
As to the possible death penalty for the soldiers; I don't support the death penalty, but if they're guilty of what they're charged with, they need to pay a heavy price. War is horrible, and things happen, but I don't want to see murder excused.
 
*Me either.



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RE: A bit of news - 9/3/2006 1:07:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		It does seem a sad, bleak place. I hope the prosperity much of Asia has seen makes its way there; after suffering with Pol Pot and his legacy for so long, they need something good to happen.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 4:32:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		i'm curious.......do those who oppose the death penalty for american soldiers if convicted of murder support or oppose the death penalty generally? If support, how come the GI's get an opt out?

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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 4:39:27 AM   
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i'm curious.......do those who oppose the death penalty for american soldiers if convicted of murder support or oppose the death penalty generally? If support, how come the GI's get an opt out?


I don't know about anyone else, philosophy, but I am against the death penalty period, and always have been.  I understand why people support it, though.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 4:42:50 AM   
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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 4:51:25 AM   
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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 4:54:29 AM   
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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 5:55:44 AM   
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..............or just your teachers at school?   :)

I would like to hear the jsutification from those that support death penalty normally but not in this istance.

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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 6:19:13 AM   
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i'm curious.......do those who oppose the death penalty for american soldiers if convicted of murder support or oppose the death penalty generally? If support, how come the GI's get an opt out?


I am usually not in favor of death penalties for the common GI, in most cases they may have done the actual killing, but  the dirty deed was cooked up by those higher in the  chain.




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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 6:25:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		"I am usually not in favor of death penalties for the common GI, in most cases they may have done the actual killing, but  the dirty deed was cooked up by those higher in the  chain."

isn't that just a variation on the old 'i was just following orders' excuse? 

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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 6:32:04 AM   
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RE: A bit of news - 9/4/2006 6:34:33 AM   
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I think the death penalty is the product of posturing politicians & a society that has lost its' way.


Then society has never known its way, as the death penalty has always been here. As has political posturing lol.

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