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ProtagonistLily -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 8:06:04 AM)

Well, I live in a midsized city and I know lots of people who are interested ni this sort of thing. You'd be surprised how many people you might meet if you tried a Google search to see if there's an organization near you. You also might want to go to look at another organization's website, and see if it has any links in your area. The Society Of Janus, in SF has a very excellent set of resource links for BDSM Organizations through out the country. If Google doesn't help you, you might find something on their site.

Lily

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Lily. No we dont, for now all we do is working up my pain tolerance and he is working going to get to work on target practice. We do not know many pepole that are interested in this sort of things.





ProtagonistLily -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 8:11:44 AM)

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Well said! I tell people there is "play," there is "correction," and there is "punishment." Play is obvious, correction is used to facilitate an agreed upon end goal, punishment is meted out to those who have blatantly defied the rules. If I have to punish you I'm also thinking "why bother?" Release (and not of an ejaculatory kind) is imminent.


Great conversation Ladies! My mother always used to say "Don't air your dirty laundry in public". I've translated that into BDSM. I don't punish publically, not if I'm serious about it. I tend to be more private about it, so that it does not become part of a bottom's kink...especially if they have an exhibitionist streak. And, I usually don't punish corporally; Toy's for me, by their definition, are 'fun.' Spanking or caning someone who likes to be canned seems to defeat the purpose for me. I'm much more apt to give them an assignment using something they don't enjoy, making them write about it, and check up on whether they completed the assignment.

I'll correct in public, but I keep my true punishment out of the sight of others.

Lily




nella -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 10:15:35 AM)

Thank you Lily for the kind advise. My Dom usualy punish me whit a whip, but even if i like mild whippings, when it are a punishment i get more than i like, much more and i do not want to experience that. As my pain tolerance grow so do the punishments, perhaps he one day will have not use other things, or perhaps he will desire to use other things, but right now he use whips.




ProtagonistLily -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 10:28:12 AM)

My point is, for punishment or play, use of a single tail is not something I would want someone who hasn't been trained properly on, to use on me.

He can call himself God, but I still have a safeword....

Lily




nella -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 10:57:05 AM)

I agree, so we dont, not yet, but he want to train for it, and i anyway need to train up pain tolerance for it, or at least endurance.




ShadeDiva -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 10:58:03 PM)

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I agree, so we dont, not yet, but he want to train for it, and i anyway need to train up pain tolerance for it, or at least endurance.


If he wants to train for it, fine, wonderful, but that whip should never be aimed at your body until he's been trainign with it for a while, and already has some measure of skill when it comes to aiming and how much energy is left to expend at the end of the cracker/fall.

As for pain, methinks this is a common misconception people have with singletails - they assume that they have to be able to take pain to be whipped.

A skilled whip wielder has the ability to make that whip carress you or flay you. There doesn't need to be pain that one has to build up a tolerance for unless that is the goal of that whipping. Honestly a skilled person using a whip can whip you without making it hurt more than a cat kneading gently. (I would ADORE that level of skill with my whip *dreamy sigh*) And there is something to be said for someone knowing exactly how to pop the cracker so it releases the energy in the whip right next to the body rather than on the body so it releases that little "puff" of air.

That being said, there are a TON of ways he can gain experience in learning how his whip channels the energy down it's length, how it handles the way he commands it, without it ever touching your body until he can actually hit what he MEANS to hit.

Rice paper or butcher paper hung up with targets drawn on it is an excellent exercise. If you can whip that paper (rice paper is waaaaaaay thinner and harder to do this with)without tearing it, exploding it, where you are aiming, as well as learn at what point that whip starts getting a little "toothy" - and you are the one deciding the end result of what the whip puts out, I'd say that's a good time to start thinking about a human body.here are other ways to train with a whip, stuffed animals, toilet paper, a lady I know practiced with her light switch ( but it was an aiming excercise, that didn't teach her how to modulate the energy the whip expends at the end), a ball on a string outside, etc.

Just like ANY toy, whips can be as gentle and sweet as a baby's first head of hair, it depends on who is using it. Whips don't HAVE to be painful, anymore than canes do.

JMO

~ShadeDiva




proudsub -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/7/2005 11:52:56 PM)

Here's another thread with single tail whip advise:

single tail whipping





topcat -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/8/2005 1:21:37 AM)

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(I would ADORE that level of skill with my whip *dreamy sigh*) And there is something to be said for someone knowing exactly how to pop the cracker so it releases the energy in the whip right next to the body rather than on the body so it releases that little "puff" of air.

Rice paper or butcher paper hung up with targets drawn on it is an excellent exercise. If you can whip that paper (rice paper is waaaaaaay thinner and harder to do this with)without tearing it, exploding it, where you are aiming, as well as learn at what point that whip starts getting a little "toothy" - and you are the one deciding the end result of what the whip puts out, I'd say that's a good time to start thinking about a human body.


My dear Shady Lady-

First of all- Welcome back- where you been? Didja miss us? we missed you...

Bob Degan says "towels don't talk back"

I say, yes, but towels are easier to come by than willing stuntsubs<g>.

Someday- you, me, a roomy space, and a macthed pair of six foot snakes (It could happen...). Till then, my favorite practice taget is a #4 twistlink chain, hung form the ceiling, with a pair of cheap craft store bells sewn to scraps of rag, tucked through the links at nipple and 'sweetspot' hight.

I try to:
1] move the bell without a ring-
2] ring the bell
3]knock the bell and the rag out with out wrapping the chain.

Stay warm,
Lawrence




nella -> RE: Harems and Tribute and Dishes, Oh My! (1/8/2005 5:38:58 AM)

Thank you for all the advice all of you. i would never let anyone untrained use a singel tail on me becouse i value my life and my health, in contrast to most toys singel tails are weapons, and they are weapons capabel to kill or maim, or at least fo a hell of alot of damage. i am not crasy, well perhaps a littel bit, but not that crasy that i would jump on the phone to Austrilia, order the meanest, most well made snake they got and give it to my Dom that aims worce then me, i said i was a fantasy i want one day to come true. Also i know that a singel tail need not hurt, when handeld properly the tip travels fast enoh to give of a smal sonic boom, and depending on how far form the body this boom is reledses, the tail could hit the body whit littel inpact, but in my fantasy it hurts. But again i am werry consious of safety, and this is a fantasy years of training for both of us from being compleeted.







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