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American Revolution Series - 9/3/2006 10:30:05 PM

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Anyone watching it? I am sure the writers are liberals because they take great pains to make the parallels clear to our mismanagement of our Iraqi colony. Amazing how the mistakes of history and occupations get repeated over and over.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/3/2006 10:47:04 PM

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I haven't seen it but I'll watch out for it if it comes this way but I'm struggling to see parallels between the War Of Independence (provocation) and Iraq. The colonies were never occupied since they were always British colonies and the British forces were originally there to protect the colonies from the French. Hmm, I can see parallels between the French and Iran, both have a funny way of squinting at you, as though their brain is developing a devious plan.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/3/2006 11:14:50 PM

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The parallels are in how the British, through either incompetence, lack of oversight, or vengefulness often reignited the dying flame of the revolution. Those are the most stunning and clear ones. They never make direct comparisons, but some of the themes and slogans of Bush and Cheney are included from the British side, although in subtly modified form.

A number of times they forced people who were otherwise uninterested, to choose sides and they did, much to the chagrin of the Brits! The deBaathification was similar fuckup.

Early on they were fighting in New Jersey and the Brits were not getting the support from the Colonists (who weren't doing anything to help Washington either) and rather than take that as a chance to win them to their side by paying high prices for supplies, instead simply took them by force, thus ensuring new recruits for Washington. Sound familiar?

A theme running throughout the whole series is the British did not have enough men and could not secure the country and so Washington's tiny and ineffective army was able to move about and survive.

None of this is news to anyone familiar with guerilla warfare and the tactics of both sides but since most people identify with the American revolutionaries it makes for an interesting cognitive dissonance to see it from that side rather than the side of the occupyer that we are in now.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 12:13:18 AM

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There is a documentary coming out soon that points out how Bush and Cheney are responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. That makes as much sense as this one.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 12:20:28 AM

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Comparison has often been made between the War of Independence and Vietnam which seems more apt to me. A war in which a superpower has little support at home, no coherent strategy and with little idea of what it would do with the place should it have won. Some wars are better lost and I think the War of Independence was one of them.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 12:23:55 AM

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Estring,

Since my post was so stupid and idiotic, it should be easy for you to come up with an articulate and reasoned response.

I won't hold my breath though.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 2:14:59 AM

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One thing I do know about the US War of Independance is that many Indian tribes fought on the revolutionary side.
Boy...did they get their just rewards. he he he he

Some fought with the Brits tho'

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 4:09:17 AM

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Another fact is that the revolutionaries wouldn't stay out in the open long enough so that the brave Brits. and their mercenary German allies could shoot them.

Not cricket ...what ?

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 4:39:43 AM

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As I've heard the right claim that historians, as well as our media are liberals, that would explain the perception that the mistakes of history are repeated over and over.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 4:44:12 AM

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"As I've heard the right claim that historians, as well as our media are liberals"

people whose job it is to actually understand past and current events are liberals? Now thats a surprise.

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 4:48:41 AM

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quote:

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Another fact is that the revolutionaries wouldn't stay out in the open long enough so that the brave Brits. and their mercenary German allies could shoot them.

Not cricket ...what ?

I seem to remember some complaints on CM about cowardly muslims not fighting in the open!

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 6:11:10 AM

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The intervention of the French seemed to play a very big part in the war, particularly by threatening "more valuable" British possessions in other parts of the world and with troops in North America. Which country lay this part with Iraq.....Iran, North Korea, China, ...... th world in general?

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RE: American Revolution Series - 9/4/2006 6:46:52 AM

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Chesapeake was the only Royal Navy defeat in its entire history up to 1914 when airplanes completely changed naval battles. The French certainly struck the killer blow which is rather ironic considering how the US and France feel about each other. Me thinks it was more a case of my enemy's enemy is my friend. I guess they got us back for their defeat in Canada.

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