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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Noah, I think you're right - nobody can really judge what is disfigurement".

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ORIGINAL: Noah


<<<If you're taking it as hypothetical then her potential death is no more salient than yours or mine to the notions of disfigurement, right?>>>
 
Noah, I wasnt trying to take away from your points.  It was my thought that in this hypothetical girls world, the disfigurement would sort of be moot, because she wasnt going to live with it, but finish up by being killed or dying.  I guess I was focusing more on this "story" specifically, where you focused more on the philosophical. 


<<<Things are gonna matter, as you put it, to any number of people all around the globe who never have and never will hear of this hypothetical or not hypothetical CM personality. Things are gonna matter whether or not this chick wants to be dead. In fact things are gonna matter whether or not this chick is indeed dead.>>>
 
Yes, but there was nothing in the OP about things 'around the globe'.  IT was posed about a particular situation and a particular person and how another particular person didnt know how to deal with it.  Again,  the exchange of ideas on how disfigurement can be interpreted as beauty or not, was very interesting indeed, but my personal focus was more on the specifics presented in the the OP.  That doesnt mean yours should have been.  I didnt mean to imply that, but to question beyond what you had said.  

<<<We can talk about those things as such if we choose, with or without reference to this person who may or may not exist--as described by yet someone else who for all I know made the whole thing up, not that I doubt the original poster myself.>>>
 
Yes, Noah.  We/you/anyone can talk about anything if you choose, I wasnt trying to halt that.  I was merely asking how much the disfigurement would matter in relation to the fact that she would be hypothetically dead.    I do not doubt the original Poster either.  I doubt the story of the person she is speaking of.. I hope that is clear to the Original poster. But I think she understood what I meant.   Several others also suggested that the girl (the chick, NOT the OP) was merely seeking attention.  That was my feeling as well.  So I stated such. 


<<<<Separately, if this chick does exist as described, her life and death matter irrespective of anything we or the original poster may have to say about them.>>>>

I would agree.  I just dont think the disfigurement would matter much if the person is dead.  That was my point. 

<<<We can talk about this chick. We can talk about her health, her motivations, her prospects and yes her death. I talked about her in my post.

<<<Or, we can talk about ideas raised as the conversation proceeds. I did this also, attempting to place the ideas in a broader context.>>>>

Yes, I understand that.  And you made a brilliant post as usual.  I read it, appreciated it for exactly what it was---An eye-opening piece about the different ways disfigurement could be viewed as beauty or symbolic in some instances,  even or cultural etc----. It was a well-written post. I enjoyed it,  and then it raised a question in my mind, Noah.  That question being..."how much would the disfigurement and how its viewed, matter if she was dead". 

<<<The original post to a thread on some kink website just isn't the lynch pin (a product available at a certain kind of store, by the way) which holds the universe together. It is neither useless nor wrong to re-contextualize an idea in the course of a conversation, insofar as I have been able to tell.>>>
 
I  couldnt possibly agree with you more.  And I didnt mean to imply such that your point shouldnt be discussed or spoken, I only added to it by asking what meaning it would have if the person was dead.  In another moment in time, that question may have added something to the discussion.


<<<Some people find ideas interesting insofar as they may apply to anyone>>>>.

Agreed.  Im one of them. And Im also one, who at times, focuses on the OP specifically and sometimes I do that by applying what a person posts and seeing where it takes me, then I respond with what crosses my mind. 

<<<Other people only seem to find ideas interesting insofar as they apply to this or that person, or one's self, or the person described in the original post.>>>

I dont know if Id agree that any one person is that limited, but I supposed it could be the case. 



<<<Now about the farm supply store; I have a feeling we should approach this gradually.

You are familiar with shoe stores and, say, pet stores.

You are familiar with the sorts of products featured for sale at a shoe store or a pet store.

As you will apparently need to imagine, to run a farm requires supplies.>>>>




Actually I kinda figured that something that you would use on a farm would be found at such a store.  What supplies specifically, I couldnt imagine. Maybe seeds and manure and things of that nature.  I dont know.  Sometimes Im just that dumb.  What baffled me about what a "farm supply store" is, was how you said that if you go into one you will see disfigured people over the age of 30.  I couldnt and still cant connect farm supply stores with disfigurement. maybe I shouldve posed it differently.   What kind of specific things are sold in farm supply stores and why are the people there disfigured.  Is being a farmer dangerous?  I dont know.  I didnt get it,  so I asked. 

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ORIGINAL: littlesubjess

I happened upon a fem subs profile on here yesterday ... i dont want to name names, but basically, she is looking for someone to disfigure her ... in her words .. "destroy her completely, especially her face, tits and genitals" ... i messaged her just to tell her she needs to be careful. she emailed back asking if i wanted to be friends with her, as she doesnt think she'll be around much longer. I asked, "why? are you likely to end up in hospital?" ... she said, "no ... more like six feet under if everything goes to plan"

I added her to msn, and spoke to her about it in more detail. basically not only does she want disfuigurement, but hopefully to die too ...  i asked her why she wanted to die, and she said "because then it is the ultimate submission", but i said, "well whats the point if your dead ?" and this is what she said ...  "ive always sought to be punished, to be hurt, to be damaged, getting more intense desires over time ... ive known for years this is how i want to go, so now i aim to do it"

Now, im not having a go ... i know everyone has their own ideas, kinks, dreams and desires, but i just dont get it ... can anyone explain ... or at least try to help me understand ?

i cant help thinking that this girl may be deranged in some way ... that she needs help before she does, or allows someone to do something serious to her.

Anyone ?

Jess xxx

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Marie- for the quote help.

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When you want to go line by line on a long post, hit "quote" which will then pop up a response box with all of that persons post quoted for your reply

Delete the [*/quote*] at the end of the quoted text.

Insert a [*/quote*] at the end of THEIR text where you want to begin your first response chunk.  In this recent case, directly after Noah's "right?"

Type your response.

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Insert a [*quote*] at the beginning of the next chunk of text you want to respond to.

Repeat steps above.

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As long as you have a pair of quote brackets at the beginning and end of each quote section, it reads well.  You just have to delete that first end quote when the response box first comes up.

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ORIGINAL: marieToo
ahhhhhhh ok. A couple of others have tried to explain this to me.  But it was never clear to remove the bottom "end quote" symbols, of the original text. That was the biggie! 

Thanks!!

Edited for a typo.  argh.

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Actually I kinda figured that something that you would use on a farm would be found at such a store.  What supplies specifically, I couldnt imagine. Maybe seeds and manure and things of that nature.  I dont know.  Sometimes Im just that dumb.  [snip]  ...  I couldnt and still cant connect farm supply stores with disfigurement. maybe I shouldve posed it differently.   What kind of specific things are sold in farm supply stores and why are the people there disfigured.   

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Is being a farmer dangerous?

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An estimated 104 children younger than 20 die of agricultural injuries on U.S. farms and ranches annually. Fatality rates among young agriculture workers range from 12 to 16 per 100,000 workers, about three times the private sector rate. The fatality rate for all workers in agriculture is 19.2 per 100,000 workers. Of male youth fatalities, 53 percent occur in crop production. Female youth fatalities occur primarily in livestock production. Farm machinery (including tractors) is the leading agent of fatality, accounting for 36 percent of deaths to youth less than 20 years old. Thirty percent of farm machinery-related deaths are among children less than 5 years old. Drowning is the second leading mechanism of death on farms with children less than 5 years of age, accounting for 32 percent of farm deaths.
The highest injury rates for all farm youth were seen for youth less than 10 years of age and youth 12 to 13 years of age (two injuries per 100 youth). The three most prevalent mechanisms of injury to youth less than 20 are falls (22 percent), followed by off-road transportation incidents (15 percent), and being struck by objects (11 percent). -- "Youth Agricultural Injury Statistics"  AL Coop Ext. System, 2005.