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IWantToPunish -> Help getting started (9/6/2006 7:45:08 PM)

I have always been interested in diminating people.  Lately, I have been talking to many subs online and alot of them are wanting to meet.  I am wondering what is the best way to get started?  Is there anyone ( preferably experienced Dommes ) who can give me some pointers?




MistressWolfen -> RE: Help getting started (9/6/2006 7:52:29 PM)

I would like to help but my experience in dimination has been woefully undeveloped. Best of luck.




ladylexington -> RE: Help getting started (9/6/2006 8:15:50 PM)

What kind of pointers do you need? Help deciding which submissives to meet? Advice on what to do when you meet someone? Info on safe (and fun) play?




Owned1 -> RE: Help getting started (9/6/2006 8:27:46 PM)

As with anyone new to any lifestyle whether it be BDSM or diminating (which btw is dominating) you need to educate yourself.  You cannot come onto a cyber forum ask a question and pooof instant Domme.

There are plenty of online resources as well as real books with pages, you may also want to check out the local scene and see if you can connect with someone there to assist you in your learning.

Good Luck

Owned




mnottertail -> RE: Help getting started (9/6/2006 8:39:46 PM)

There are, but probably not the way you come off, you are 22 and in a hurry and want some kind of rule the world, bottom line, beat the little shitbreather lessons in 20 words or less. 

So what is the big deal about this shit?  You can get your pussy licked?  Ohhhhhhhhhh, GAWD you will be so sick of that..............


Why do you want to even own a human?   Rotten sons a bitches always tryin to hug on you, suck your life force out, all needy, needing direction, failing you constantly...........you just gonna snag up some 22 year old boy got his shit together?  Maybe go thirty with a nice car?


You need to think clearly without using this ( Y ) cause that is a powerful little transmission to drive a mechanical device. 

Sex takes less than a minute.  Life is filled with hours in a day and garbage to be deposited, dishes to be washed and life to be lived, first of all if you can't envision in terms of 5, 10 or 20 years, then you need to sit down and think about what you want where you gonna be and how you get it.

Can you run your life, reasonably?  Don't look to run anothers until you can.  

Consider this, I have shoes older than you, and they are in good shape. 

You probably think I am ripping you off, but believe me, I am not.   Tatting in the tweeds is a small part. (It's SO HAWTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!)

There is no class you can attend that is the be all do all.  There are a lot of people out here that did by learning, had a friend and read as wide as poetry and psychology....................


There is alot of reflection necessary, goes like this (WHAT DO I WANT?)  I don't care that YOU WANT a transvestite girl that was a girl at birth and changed to a man and decided to become a woman again........there is a filler for every void.

Having one, what the fuck are you going to do with it to enhance life?

I'm a hardass, you will talk to much more pleasant people here,  but  the shit you own gotta wanna, YOU gotta know what you gotta wanna.......

that's it in a nutshell,

Ron(ne)




Owned1 -> RE: Help getting started (9/6/2006 9:48:09 PM)

Well said Ron,  you always say it like it is and take no prisioners.

Owned

ps do you think she is even reading anything we are writting?




mnottertail -> RE: Help getting started (9/6/2006 10:15:38 PM)

I don't really know, Ownie, I sometimes think I am the onliest motherfucker out here talking to the trees, I think when you sit down and weigh this out, in the end, you are probably best off just dimming yourself, know what I mean, it's like.........geeze, it ain't always HAWT!!!!!!!!!!!! and that is what kinda makes me go back to the basics, you know, all that shit about humans involved, and yadda yadda yadda......it tires me out

Ron




MstrssPassion -> RE: Help getting started (9/7/2006 6:10:41 AM)

Take some time to figure out just who you are in this & what you want out of your interactions with these "online subs"

I get the immediate impression that you are setting yourself up for frustration (if you are expecting an adoring attentive sub that will please you) based on your name alone... I Want To Punish... this pretty much means you want to reward bad behavior.





MisPandora -> RE: Help getting started (9/7/2006 9:25:44 AM)

You've got one of the most fantastic BDSM community groups in the midwest right there in your hometown of Cleveland -- http://www.ohiosmart.org/

Please do tell T and suzee that I've sent you.  You'll learn alot of practical things, and meet real live people who do SM.




LadyWhisper -> RE: Help getting started (9/7/2006 9:41:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IWantToPunish

I have always been interested in diminating people.  Lately, I have been talking to many subs online and alot of them are wanting to meet.  I am wondering what is the best way to get started?  Is there anyone ( preferably experienced Dommes ) who can give me some pointers?


Oooo Pleeezzzee... Can't turn Domme overnight. I myself  was trained as a Slave for many years before I could even think of becoming a Domme. My advice, read, visit, before you really think you can go out and beat the shit out of someone and fuck them too. For you are way dreaming if you think that this is what BDSM is about.

Lady Whisper




mstrjx -> RE: Help getting started (9/7/2006 9:48:21 AM)

What about what you said in your profile.

Pandering to your whims.  What are those?  There's your answer.

Jeff




MisPandora -> RE: Help getting started (9/7/2006 9:53:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyWhisper
Oooo Pleeezzzee... Can't turn Domme overnight. I myself  was trained as a Slave for many years before I could even think of becoming a Domme. My advice, read, visit, before you really think you can go out and beat the shit out of someone and fuck them too. For you are way dreaming if you think that this is what BDSM is about.


I'll argue you one here.  How I made the transition from bottom to top?  I was locked in cuffs in a hotel room in Boston during a BDS weekend.  He tossed me the keys at the end, telling me that 'You have 2 hours to do with me what you want, and you know what that means.'  This pain in the ass dom (who I am friends with to this very day) expected me to top him.  He'd been trying to give it up for a week going into the weekend until finally he couldn't stand seeing me in the place that he wanted to be in himself.  This is a guy who thought it'd be humiliating to make me wear hair rollers (like the big curlers?) on a convertible ride from NY to Boston, but as it turned out, HIS fetish was more embarassing to him and downright amusing for me! (I'm sure this is one of the points that tipped him off to my inner sadist!)

However, I'm sure the look on my face at the time was something like, "What the FUCK?  You want me to do WHAT?"

But I did.   I'd watched at events, I'd read every book published on SM that I could get my hands on.  I'd been to classes, including those back when Jack McG and Rose were running BR.  At this point, I was a lifelong girlscout, a certified camp master through the ACA, certified as a paramedic, in firefighting and vehicle rescue (knots anyone?) and already been dealing with incident command as a professional for, oh.....10 years in the fire/EMS service.  Taking charge was simple, and the SM stuff wasn't exactly rocket science.  They even make velcro, snap hooks and buckles for folks who aren't knot-inclined!

So apparently I'd done right by him that he couldn't get back in his top-space all weekend.  He was one of the ones who mentored me, who told me that I had the wherewithall to do what was actually inside of me, and to stick by me when naysayers around me fired off the inevitable "subbie with a whip" barbs.

And damned if that man doesn't chase me till this day to lock him up and torture him! :-)




IWantToPunish -> RE: Help getting started (9/8/2006 11:48:48 PM)

First I would like to thank everyone who took the time to reply.  I do apologize for the misspelling; I am not the best typist.  I am not rushing into this. If I was I wouldn’t be asking for any kind of help.   I know I can not learn everything there is to know in one night.  I wanted to know any advice for someone who is just starting out in this lifestyle and you all have given me a lot to think about.  As for the "name" it was the first thing that popped into my head and I liked it, so I kept it.       




Samwhiplash -> RE: Help getting started (9/9/2006 12:08:39 AM)

I agree with MisPandora, you should go along to your local munch group - its a fabulous way to meet more experienced people and learn from them (be it from talking, or possibly being allowed to attend private play parties or whatever). I also recommend reading (The Mistress Manual was a good insight for me, I also read Miss Lorelei's Concise Slave Training Manual and found parts of it brilliant), and this board still sometimes opens my eyes to things i had never even considered/heard of ;-) . DVD's are great for play scene tips too ;-)

But best of all..... just listen to what comes from within.

Everyone has to start somewhere.... I still consider myself to me in my baby Domme stage :)

Enjoy




MaamJay -> RE: Help getting started (9/10/2006 3:18:24 AM)

You've had a lot of great advice here. Add www.steel-door.com/Chamber.html to your reading list, Mistress Steel has some good ideas for a first scene that isn't too hard or expensive to set up. And do be brave, get out and join your local community. While I learned a lot from reading, I have learned so much more from attending workshops and watching friends play. No way would I have attempted more complex and "edgy" techniques such as shibari, rope suspension and fireplay without being instructed in person by people skilled in those techniques.

Remember: To control someone else you must first be in control of yourself. Being Dominant is an awesome responsibility and a lot of hard work. You literally hold someone's life in your hands. But it can bring rich rewards.

A few practical tips:
While it might not be practical for you to try subbing or bottoming before you try Domming, at least try things out on yourself wherever possible (eg nipple clamps, temperature of wax, feel of a paddle or a flogger etc).
Err on the side of caution eg don't leave clamps or fairly tight bonds in place for more than 10 minutes initially. Monitor the sub's extremities at all times, for signs of skin turning blue, getting cool etc. Encourage your sub to tell you if they are feeling "pins and needles", numbness, aching joints etc.
Do a medical check before playing with a new sub, ask about past and present illnesses, including asthma, diabetes and blood pressure, and injuries, including whiplash, broken bones, sprains etc. Also enquire about medications and allergic reactions eg to latex!
Don't try to do everything in one session ... leave the subbie wanting more!
Much control is in the voice ... practice speaking authoritatively. Do it in front of a mirror so voice and body language match!

To finish, a funny and true story from My first real life scene with a sub:
I had "played" with this sub online several times, so he knew what to expect. Finally he was to visit and play in real. Naturally, I was very nervous but doing My best to hide it. After the opening pleasantries, I told him to strip. No surprise, he was expecting that. he peeled off shirt, jeans, shoes and socks ... but left his underwear on! Surprised Myself, I said "I thought I said to strip!" he turned and looked so embarrassed and said "i can't Mistress, i'm sorry, i just can't!" Great I thought, My first sub and I can't even get him naked! Thinking furiously fast, I decided not to push the point and instead ordered him to come over to Me and kneel and greet Me as instructed (to kiss My feet). The relief on his face as he did so was clear. So then I told him to do some foot worship, which I knew he was looking forward to. After about 5 minutes, I leant down, slipping My thumbs into the waistband of his underpants and said "I think W/we can dispense with these now". he agreed and peeled them off. The scene progressed well and came to an eventual satisfying conclusion. While snuggling and debriefing, I asked him why he wouldn't strip at first. he looked away shyly and murmured "because i wasn't hard Mistress!"  I laughed (probably not the best reaction!) and cuddled him and said I hadn't expected him to be and that part of My pleasure was to watch that change occur. he was so relieved and W/we had no further problems in future scenes. To this day, part of My induction for new subs is that it's OK not to be hard straight away, but I still want them naked!

Moral of this story: A Dominant has to think on their feet, and if at first you don't succeed ... try another way!

Good luck!
Mistress Jay 




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