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NorthernGent -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/8/2006 11:57:05 PM)
A point of order on the British (Prime Minister to Parliament) case put forward for WMDs. The British dossier included a forged document (which claimed the Iraqi regime had sourced elements from Nigeria needed to build nuclear weapons). Not only was it forged the British secret services and Prime Minister knew it was forged because the CIA told them and advised them not to include it in the dossier. I think it's fair to say that as they were including forged documents they were making up a case as one didn't exist. Regards

meatcleaver -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/9/2006 12:03:57 AM)
There were leaks coming out of British intelligence saying the Blair government was willfully misintepreting the evidence. The document produced by British intelligence was modified by the Blair government by insisting on changes in emphasis. Even as Iraq was being debated in Parliament, the vast majority of people in the country were aware the dossier was more spin than facts. The government only manage to pass a resolution for war through blind party loyalty, which has me thinking, what a load of shit the British Parliament is.

Kedicat -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/9/2006 12:18:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver There were leaks coming out of British intelligence saying the Blair government was willfully misintepreting the evidence. The document produced by British intelligence was modified by the Blair government by insisting on changes in emphasis. Even as Iraq was being debated in Parliament, the vast majority of people in the country were aware the dossier was more spin than facts. The government only manage to pass a resolution for war through blind party loyalty, which has me thinking, what a load of shit the British Parliament is. Shall we weigh up the load of shits that various governments are lately? Glass houses all round.

NorthernGent -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/9/2006 12:37:24 AM)
The government only manage to pass a resolution for war through blind party loyalty. Very true and a sad indictment of current British politics. A few brave souls resigned over this but the rest - career first, principles second. Regards

mnottertail -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/9/2006 5:32:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent A point of order on the British (Prime Minister to Parliament) case put forward for WMDs. The British dossier included a forged document (which claimed the Iraqi regime had sourced elements from Nigeria needed to build nuclear weapons). Not only was it forged the British secret services and Prime Minister knew it was forged because the CIA told them and advised them not to include it in the dossier. I think it's fair to say that as they were including forged documents they were making up a case as one didn't exist. Regards We now know what they are doing with the money we send over their to purchase our slaves. Since so many are filling the cup to the bri,, here. I am content to say that this is prima facia evidence of the fact, proffered by an independant source. LOLOLOL, (sorry about the misuse on quoting you, NG, but as a racontuer it was beyond my ability to resist) Ron

Manawyddan -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/9/2006 5:35:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyrdRich Well, the Fundy Christians make quite a bit of noise, but it is the Left I most often see trying to prohibit some form of speech (or force a network to edit a film to their liking). Oh? I seem to remember a miniseries about the Regans some years back ... or rather I don't, because the rightists raised such a funss about a critical documentary that it was never broadcast. I also remember how Disney originally refused to distribute Farenheit 9/11 and there was some discussion over whether the film would ever be released. I also remember a certain flag-burning amendment. Typically, the Republicans only consider it censorship when someone is trying to shut THEM up, but they don't when they're doing the shutting up. (I will add that I agree with you completely about Tipper Gore, and if Bush hadn't been so completely repellent to me, I would never have vote for Gore because of her).

peterK50 -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/9/2006 5:36:37 AM)
Bush keeps making the mistake of blamming the intelligence services. If he just would admit, "I screwed up", 80% of the voters would just say "Ok, lets move on". Instead he keeps blamming the non-partisan professionals in the intelligence services. They aren't going to take the rap for this losers mess & will keep coming around to bite him in the ass again & again.

NorthernGent -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/10/2006 6:57:12 AM)
Ron, No problems on the misquoting. I thrive on it. In fact, I actively seek out being misquoted. Any time. Regards

philosophy -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/10/2006 7:12:53 AM)
"You know I don't see any mention of the fact that every intelligence agency, whether it was American, Russian, French, English, or Israeli all concluded that Saddam had wmds." ....inaccurate, at least as far as UK intelligence went. The UK security services submitted a report to Downing Street that was substantially modified before publication. The so called 'dodgy dossier' was a politicians creation not the intelligence services. You confuse what governments say their security services told them with what they were actually told.

philosophy -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/10/2006 7:15:05 AM)
"No problems on the misquoting. I thrive on it. Vote Republican/Conservative/random right wing party. In fact, I actively seek out being misquoted. Any time." .........hope this helps..........

NorthernGent -> RE: Senate: Saddam saw al-Qaida as threat (9/10/2006 7:22:48 AM)
Music to my ears, philosophy. I can almost hear the howls of derision from all four corners of the earth from the very mention of the word Conservative. Regards

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