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ownedgirlie -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 12:03:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists There is no need for me to take a break from being myself. Ditto that.

OsideGirl -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 12:30:43 PM)
From a psychological point of view, I believe that some amount of alone time is necessary to be a healthy human being and be in a healthy relationship. I think the amount you personally need is based on the enviroments you've been exposed to through out your life. That said, when I'm granted alone time I don't go wild and do things that I'm not allowed. The main difference is that the alone time is actually my time, where as the rest of the time my focus is him. I frequently spend that alonetime taking long hot baths, getting pedicures, or doing girly things. The fact of the matter is that there are times when I need to take care of me, so that I can better take care of him.

swtnsparkling -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 1:57:20 PM)
wouldnt calling yourself a wild animal that needs to be tamed just an excuse for not obeying- after two years together ?

KnightofMists -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 3:24:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling wouldnt calling yourself a wild animal that needs to be tamed just an excuse for not obeying- after two years together ? I would agree with you... However, it really depends if the behavior demonstrated is acceptable to the Master. If he accepts it... then it is not an excuse. Of course, it also depends on why he is accepting it. Is it because if he dared not accept it.. the Illusion of M/s dynamic would be ruined... or maybe he is really indifferent to it. In truth only he really knows.

OsideGirl -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 3:41:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists In truth only he really knows. This is true. A dear friend of ours has a saying, "Just because you're displeased with her, doesn't mean I am." He may enjoy the dynamics of the relationship, just the way they are.

MLskajira -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 5:01:14 PM)
Master does know of this girl's activities, all the time. He does not wish this girl to inform Him of her minor indescretions. calling herself a "wild animal" is not an excuse to disobey, it is a fact. different people have different wants and desires. this girl's service to her Master does not in any way detract from who she is, it enhances it, but neither does it change who she is. although she has attempted to inform everyone of her experiances, they seem to keep being pushed to the side or ignored altogether, but they are what make this girl, this girl. as she stated before, she is very lucky to have found a Master who understands who and what she is and she understands who and what her Master wants her to be and is working toward that goal. if this has caused a stir well,,,,,,, that isnt always a bad thing

thisishis -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/10/2006 5:44:00 PM)
i don't get much privacy. The amount of time during which i am priviledged to personal private 'me time' skidded to an abrupt halt about 13 years+ ago when i first became a mother. In June 2004, i became His slave and since then the only time i can count on a moment of privacy is when i am in the bathroom. Even that amount of time is often interupted by the knocking on the door by the 'unmentionables'.... even though i have instructed them to never ever knock on that bathroom door while i am in there unless they need me and my attention urgently... like if they are bleeding heavily, or if the house is on fire, or being evacuated for some other reason. i don't go out with friends much. i haven't much desire to do so. my Master is my best friend and it's with him that i prefer to spend my time. i don't have a need for privacy, although sometimes i just need a bit of down-time ... aka 'me-time' ... meaning a time when i can expect to be left alone to simply relax in whatever way i choose, without interuption. Having unmentionables puts a strain on any expectation of privacy for a mom, and the strain is often ten fold if that mom is also a slave.

swtnsparkling -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/11/2006 2:29:26 AM)
KOM, You are right- good point

twicehappy -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/11/2006 3:43:33 AM)
Many have made good points on this thread, Celeste, beth and KOM especially with his insights into your particular dynamic. I am allowed and take private time for myself as long as it is no inconvenience to my pair. Most often i just go read then nap or soak in the hot tub, though soon my new ride will be here then i will be taking track time too. The thing is that no matter what i am doing much like Celeste and beth i am always "on". Never would i behave in a manner either of my pair would find unacceptable. Being their slave is not something i put on like a uniform it is who i am. quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists Of course, it also depends on why he is accepting it. Is it because if he dared not accept it.. The Illusion of M/s dynamic would be ruined... or maybe he is really indifferent to it. In truth only he really knows. This comment by KOM strikes a chord relative to discussions brought up in our house by this very thread; that is why do so many willingly accept this kind of behavior?(As KOM pointed out this may or may not be what is happening in this case) We came to many conclusions on the subject but most of them boiled down to the truth in KOM's above statement, that any effort to change this would result in ruining the illusion of the D/s or M/s dynamic, and many are happy to grasp even the illusion rather than have no relationship at all. I think this may also be one of the largest underlying reasons for the preponderance of Velcro collars out there.

BitaTruble -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/11/2006 11:04:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MLskajira Master does know of this girl's activities, all the time. He does not wish this girl to inform Him of her minor indescretions. calling herself a "wild animal" is not an excuse to disobey, it is a fact. different people have different wants and desires. this girl's service to her Master does not in any way detract from who she is, it enhances it, but neither does it change who she is. although she has attempted to inform everyone of her experiances, they seem to keep being pushed to the side or ignored altogether, but they are what make this girl, this girl. as she stated before, she is very lucky to have found a Master who understands who and what she is and she understands who and what her Master wants her to be and is working toward that goal. if this has caused a stir well,,,,,,, that isnt always a bad thing What you have, while perhaps having a differing method, is really not so different than what others have as well. You act as you are expected to act to get what it is that you want. When you fail to act in the expected manner, you don't get what you want. Your Master leaves out the cigs, alcohol and drugs knowing you will use them as expected. If you comply, he will keep leaving them for you.. if you don't, he doesn't leave them for you the next time. Since you want them, you live up to his expectation that you will use them. If the day comes he no longer wants you to use them, he'll quit leaving them for you. Doing what's expected is not unusual in a submissive or slave, wild animal or not. Your behavior is consistant with his expectation. If the day comes where he puts your submission to the test, then what's internal to your nature will, eventually, come out and he'll see whether or not the wild animal can be tamed and be his slave or whether he's a zoo keeper. The unknown adventure of it all is what makes life interesting. ;) Do keep us posted, please. Celeste

LaTigresse -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/11/2006 2:27:14 PM)
Veddy interesting thread. I believe everyone deserves some alone/quiet time. Myself more than most people I know. However, I am concerned by the idea of feeling one must be "on" or different than when apart. Regardless of wether we are alone or with our significant other, I feel we should always be ourselves. If I or my significant other, have to be "on" in each other's presence then I would question wether or not the relationship was working well. Granted I look at it from the perspective of a 24/7 relationship and not just occasional play also. That might make a difference.

MLskajira -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/11/2006 4:13:04 PM)
it is obvious to her that this girl used a bad choice of words. her statement of being "on" makes it sound as though this is a part time activity for this girl when it is not. this girl belongs to her Master all the time, weather He is physically with her or not. she does not don the persona of slave only when it is convieniant for her. a slave is what this girl is and what she has always been, she could not behave in another way any more than she could change the fact that she is a short female, it is what she is. all she was saying,,,,, and she knows there will be some who will pick her words apart,,,,,,,, is that she has been left to her own devices for the most part, unless her service was desired and only for as long as it was desired, for most of her slave life (which has been quite a while) this is the first relationship she has been that was loving and she is more to her Master than she was even to her parents. this girl has been a slave for over 30 years and she has only belonged to Master for 2 years. she is not used to being so watched, so controled. in the past, as long as she did what she was told when she was told to do it, what she did afterwards was of no intrest to the one's who owned her before. this girl loves the feeling of having a Master that wishes to be a part of every aspect of who and what she is, but old habits are hard to break and Master knows what His pet has been through and is willing to allow her what she sees as "bending" or "breaking" the rules, even though W/we both know she is not really.

twicehappy -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/12/2006 4:55:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse However, I am concerned by the idea of feeling one must be "on" or different than when apart. Regardless of wether we are alone or with our significant other, I feel we should always be ourselves. If I or my significant other, have to be "on" in each other's presence then I would question wether or not the relationship was working well. Granted I look at it from the perspective of a 24/7 relationship and not just occasional play also. That might make a difference. The way i feel as well beautiful. For me it is who i am, not something i put on. But as you said it may be because we are looking at it from a 24/7 relationship perspective.

ayasha -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/12/2006 5:12:39 AM)
It seems to this one that your Master knows what you do when you have 'girl' time; and if He didn't like what you did during that time He wouldn't keep giving it to you! So one wouldn't worry about being a 'bad' slave - smiles, if He thought you were a 'bad' slave you would no longer have this alone time, this 'girl' time. Maybe one of the reasons He gives you this time is that He enjoys that time for Himself? Relax and enjoy.....................He'll let you know if He isn't happy!!!!

KatyLied -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/12/2006 9:17:49 AM)
quote: I believe everyone deserves some alone/quiet time. Yes, in my opinion it shouldn't be an issue, regardless of lifestyle choice. People need quiet solitude and time for reflection.

KnightofMists -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/12/2006 11:01:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse However, I am concerned by the idea of feeling one must be "on" or different than when apart. Regardless of wether we are alone or with our significant other, I feel we should always be ourselves. If I or my significant other, have to be "on" in each other's presence then I would question wether or not the relationship was working well. Granted I look at it from the perspective of a 24/7 relationship and not just occasional play also. That might make a difference. Just the few thoughts to consider with regards to this. Being "On" does not neccessarily mean that we are putting on a coat that covers the person underneath. It doesn't need to mean that we wear this coat in the heat of the sun and then after a time to take it off so we do not over heat. It can mean that when we are called upon.. we are there as required. IE... When I go to work... I am "On" ... my focus is on my job... that is what I am paid to do. yes other aspects are their and on occassion it may take priority. But, my time is focused on the job. In my job... many aspects of myself doesn't become exercised. My interactions are different.. I am demonstrating different behaviors in my work environment compared to my home life.. but my personal character and personality doesn't change. This to me could be consider similiar to a the Masters/Doms - slaves/subs of the world as well. When we are in our intimate D/s interactions... we have certain demonstrated behaviors that are the norm of the relationship. These same demonstrated behaviors are not often completely demonstrated in every situations. Yes some are.. but not all. However, our Character and personality is not something we just take off and put on. So.. "Being On" may reflect about exercising the appropriate behaviors in the appropriate situation. My girls are very much "On" when i am around in showing the right behaviors that I want. However, some of these behaviors are specific to me and if I am not there.. then they don't do them. IE... don't enter a room ahead of me. guess if I am not there... they will be waiting along time to go into the room. But, I do expect that to always "Be On" with regards to their character/personality regardless if I am around or not.

MLskajira -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/13/2006 3:20:48 AM)
KnightofMists, that was exactally what this girl meant when she said "on". this girl "is" in a 24/7 relationship with her Master, W/we do not live in the same house, but Master can walk to His pets domicile, and does, often. this girl never knows when Master will show up, so she behaves as though He is with her at all times. as she stated before, these "indescretions" are o.k. with Him and if He ever decides that they are not, then those activities will cease.

Lashra -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/13/2006 4:50:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MLskajira o.k., this girl expected some to misunderstand what she was saying. this girl finds her joy in serving her Master, she too is happiest when on His leash and if it was allowed, she would always be on His leash when W/we go out. but as she said before this girl is a wild animal and her Master is domesticating her. she has been in this lifestyle for the majority of her life but until she met her Master, she was a fighting girl and this is her first experiance in being a pleasure slave. it would be similar to being a warrior for years and then being expected to be passive about everything all the time. this girl and her Master know who and what she is and she knows who and what her Master wishes her to be and she is striving to meet His expectations, but please remember, a tiger cannot be taken from the jungle and immediately placed in the company of gentle folk. this girl is very blessed to have a Master that understand this and is willing to make some consessions in His training of His pet to ensure that she is molded into the slave He wants. A fighting girl? No idea what that means but I'll address the rest of your post. It sounds to me as if you lack self control moreso then anything else and you are looking to Master to keep you in your place. In fact perhaps by telling him what you are doing subconsiously you are hoping he does something to put you back into your place. But from the sound of it he isn't taking the bait or simply doesn't care or maybe realizes that you are indeed a human being with some vices. Good luck ~Lashra

mynded -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/13/2006 3:17:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied quote: I believe everyone deserves some alone/quiet time. Yes, in my opinion it shouldn't be an issue, regardless of lifestyle choice. People need quiet solitude and time for reflection.

mynded -> RE: personal, private time for slaves (9/13/2006 3:19:39 PM)
I agree!! Although lately i know i have spent too much time to myself trying not to bring Master down with my bad mood.

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