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Termyn8or -> RE: The Plan (9/13/2006 7:38:31 AM)
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Corporate America ? Have you looked around ? All we have left are banks, insurance companies and gas stations. Biggest corporation we have is the government, HEY, what if they moved to China ?
There's another one of those emails that comes around from time to time, that one's apparently a tossup between being George Carlin or Ted Nugent.
No matter who did this one, I think it is oversimplistic. The neocons are stuck, there is no way they can simply back out.
In the next decade I believe we will become an isolationist country, when the dollar collapses we will no longer be able to afford influence over the 100s of governments we coerce with dollars. Saddam saw the future and wanted to switch to Euros, the collapse of the dollar is inevitable. Bad, bad boy.
Outsourcing offshore ? In my experience there a quite a few companies that will not deal with the government. I know a guy who lost everything because he was in arrears for about $100,000 in taxes, thing is, the government owed him over three times that amount. That doesn't wash in tax court though. That company actually blew off real customer work to get the government jobs done, and then got the priviledge of waiting and waiting for their money.
Just what does the phrase "government work" mean ?
Incidentally, illegal immigration is going to cure itself. Eventually we will be at the point where we need to work for $3 a day. As industry keeps moving out there may come a time when we need to go to Mexico for a job. Then we will be the wetbacks. What's more, all the people illegal immigrants couldn't stand will be here.
But I have faith that while the government will never put up a fence to keep illegals out, if the time is right I'm sure they will put up a fence to keep us in.
If people in these countries with high emmigration rates would just wake the fuck up and stop having 12 kids they would be fine. Let's say the birth rate in Mexico dropped to the rate of Euro-Americans, well below the replacement rate. This is well documented not only here, but in quite a few European countries. Let it happen to Mexico and they will be where we were a few decades ago, paying floor sweepers $18 an hour and engineers a few bucks less.
I doubt the Mexican government will ever switch to English or let us vote illegally in their elections, but if enough of us get there . . . . . .They would probably make us wetbacks enlist in their army to earn citizenship, thus making them a superpower. Then they can go occupy a bunch of countries. God forbid any of our better bomb builders are put out of work, Mexico could give them their equivalent of an H1B visa.
Thing is, if Mexico goes stomping around the world like we do, there is a slim chance that they might put Mexican interests first. I've long given up any hope of the US government putting US interests first.
Here's how the government works (you may quote this):
Say you own a casino and let some idiot relative of yours run it. Almost everybody has at least one idiot relative, if not use a friend. At times the boss in a casino will sit down at a high stakes poker game and gamble. If he is an accomplished gambler there is not that much danger, but remember he is an idiot. Draws to inside straights, throws away four card flushes, all that good shit. He bets on instinct, which he lacks.
Well, it doesn't matter to him because he can always go in the back and grab more chips. You've seen in the movies where the owner of a casino says "The only thing I have to offer is the ownership of the casino itself". Well in that case the guy lost, but he knew what he was doing. It might've been a very bad night even if he is a highly competent gambler, but he knows that it happened.
In the case of your stupid friend or relative, he has already lost the casino and doesn't even know it. When the winner gets up and cashes in his chips, the money is not there. Oops.
Whether it's Robin Williams, Robin Trower or Daffy Duck who wrote that, the content is still valid. All the things we don't like about this situation will change. Sooner or later one of the players is going to walk up to the window with his boodle of chips and then the fun starts.
Now let's say the federal reserve is a casino and this happens. Gotta print up a bunch of money, kinda like when the guy at the casino had to go into the back room for more chips. But now, for everybody, the chips have a lower value. All the customers bitch and leave, which exaserbates the situation. Print more money.
Let's try on the new prices shall we ? Loaf of bread $7, 20" TV set $400, stripped down four cylinder pickup truck $65,000, a new two bedroom house on a 32' X 50' lot in the inner city $350,000. Meantime you're still making $40,000 a year.
Compared to the pre-depression dollar, what we have today is worth about a nickel. As I said before, you need to make $200 a day to make a dollar a day. I fall short of that, how about you ? For a five day week that is $52,000 a year. Granted it is not that much money, but figure it into the new prices. Yet you will continue to toil, delay your retirement, forget certain vacations. The net effect is to take things away from YOU.
People with real money keep it in several currencies, so they are a bit insulated from these effects. Of course there is always gold, but they can make it illegal for us at any time.
In the brave new world there won't be any need for gun control, people won't be able to AFFORD guns. Watch and see. It will take the whole family fortune to pay for their best and brightest to emmigrate from the US to say, Europe, get a good job and start sending money back to get more plane tickets for their family members. Remember the new prices. If you make $40,000 a year and a loaf of bread is $7 and your rent is $3,000 a month, that $12,000 for a plane ticket is a bit hard to come by.
Perhaps I'm clairvoyant, seems I just heard someone think "Wonder what gas is". Off the top of my head, probably $20 a gallon. How the devaluation of the dollar affects the prices of any given commodity is hard to figure. Real estate makes a good yardstick.
Absent any other changes, if you buy a house for $20,000 and fifteen years later nothing has changed, no major improvements to the property or the neighborhood but it's worth $60,000 now, the main thing affecting that dollar value is the value of the dollar itself. The real value of the property is simply broken up into smaller pieces.
This will happen anytime thieves print the money.
I write this because I wanted to delve a bit deeper into the roots of this problem. This is how they steal, see, you actually have more dollars than you used to, so the theft is undetected. The rich have alot lot more Rubles, Zlaty, Francs, Marks, Euros, Yen, Shekels, Pounds. You however, on the other hand, have less wealth.
I haven't much to offer up as to a solution, but I do have ideas. Remembering the words of a hillbilly song "I'm addicted to a dollar, that ain't worth a dime".
Peaceful protest will not work, armed conflict will not work. Not today. I say that each and every one of us needs to break our dollar addiction. If alot of people did this there would be a surge in the economy, for example, get the house paid off, all the real estate, burn the creditr cards. Only pay the secured notes. Get your bills down and have the kids learn the virtue of $6 tennis shoes, and books instead of a $75 video game.
Break the cycle, this will destroy the tax base in a way they can't fix. You can't tax a person more than they have, it's been tried. Of course they might, but they'll never get it. OK things might get rough, but what else is there to do ? Get your bills down, continue to rake in the dollars for a time and get all the important shit paid off. Then go to work and tell them you are semi-retiring. Get into a lower tax bracket. Deal in cash, but buy things that are worth something. Guns and gold come to mind, but even gold is actually useless, except you might be able to sell it later. You can't eat it. How much you put into gold should be based on your perception of just how far this is going to go.
Think of other things, generator, propane (and a set of jets for your furnace), gasoline, WATER, FOOD (non perishables). The list goes on, but is not going to be exhaustive here. After a time you are ready. If alot of people do this, the government will no longer be able to pay the interest on the debt. As they pay their "swarm of officers to harrass our People", the value of that pay dwindles. They will be waaay more susceptible to bribes, and friends, you won't even need money.
Remember the propane, guns, food, knowing how to fix their car. All things of real value, which they have not. Things that are now so expensive to buy they can no longer afford it. Now you have like a "black market" source of money with which to pay the few bills you really still need money for, like if the utility companies are still in business or something. But then you are not doing anything illegal and you didn't steal the stuff so you're in the clear.
Inflation is a cleansing force. Big money leaves but the People are forced to rebuild the wealth of the country. Ridiculous inflation has happened, like when Poland simply lopped a few zeros off their currency. It happened in Germany before that, and you know what the result was.
Some Russians had a saying, when they were living under communism "They pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work". Why did they lose the cold war ? They were a machine sabotaged from within. It happens.
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