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SirDiscipliner69 -> Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 11:24:59 AM)
Do you believe that the taking of a victim by throat was erotic or violent in nature as portrayed in movies? I particularly like the sensuous neck sucking scenes portrayed in some movies. I always felt that the vampire taking of a victim neck vampire was always one of a sensual erotic seduction rather than that of a violent nature... I was first turned on to this portrayal on a PBS presentation of Dracula which the neck sucking was that of orgasmic bliss for both parties. I have enjoyed this sort of play but not broken the skin on the neck for obvious reasons. Has anyone enjoyed biting to the point of breaking of the skin say on the breasts? Ross

juliaoceania -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 11:29:35 AM)
nonconsensual violence does nothing for me, and the aspect of "victim" makes it nonconsensual in my eyes If it is a sex scene where it is rough, yes it is erotic in nature...like Mr ans Mrs Smith near the end..smiles. I am a fan of having my own throat held, and breath play during oral sex... but it makes me happy as a lark and not victimized at all. I have never had my skin broken.. but I would like to try it...it sounds kinda yummy..

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 12:14:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania nonconsensual violence does nothing for me, and the aspect of "victim" makes it nonconsensual in my eyes So was Lestat de Lioncourt actions in Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles consent or non consent? What about victims in Dracula?

Rumtiger -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 1:16:35 PM)
....umm dude, those are stories....made up...not real...non existant.

missturbation -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 1:24:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania nonconsensual violence does nothing for me, and the aspect of "victim" makes it nonconsensual in my eyes So was Lestat de Lioncourt actions in Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles consent or non consent? What about victims in Dracula? Most vampire films are consensual, have you never noticed how the victim always exposes their throat for the vamp? In my opinion vampirism is very erotic and i love having my neck bitten hard. Never had the flesh broken though - yet !!

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 1:24:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger ....umm dude, those are stories....made up...not real...non existant. Understood but they are examples of situations... Ross

juliaoceania -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 2:27:42 PM)
There is something erotic about surrendering to the dark side, but as far as fantasy goes I prefer books and movies like LOTR and WoT (WoT has some fairly erotic and dark imagery as the series progresses)

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 4:20:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: missturbation quote: ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69 quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania nonconsensual violence does nothing for me, and the aspect of "victim" makes it nonconsensual in my eyes So was Lestat de Lioncourt actions in Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles consent or non consent? What about victims in Dracula? Most vampire films are consensual, have you never noticed how the victim always exposes their throat for the vamp? In my opinion vampirism is very erotic and i love having my neck bitten hard. Never had the flesh broken though - yet !! Yes but is that because they are under the spell of something bigger and stronger than them? So if it were so over powering as to be hypnotic or trance induced that would not be with free will consent now would it? BTW...step over here in the shadows and let Me see your neck 0 0 V V Ross Designermite : http://www.cafepress.com/designermite Bon D' Age' : BDSM http://www.cafepress.com/bondage69/1147250

justanotheclaire -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 4:38:06 PM)
nothign to say just thought i would flounce in with my bare neck exposed hmmm pale enticing flesh lol

OhReallyNow -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/15/2006 5:27:33 PM)
*though this slave does not enjoy breath play, she does enjoy the feeling of having Master's hand wrap around throat*

Emperor1956 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/16/2006 1:33:40 PM)
quote: missturbation: Most vampire films are consensual, have you never noticed how the victim always exposes their throat for the vamp? On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? E.

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/17/2006 6:42:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Emperor1956 quote: missturbation: Most vampire films are consensual, have you never noticed how the victim always exposes their throat for the vamp? On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? E. It would seem the proper thing for a willing woman to do now wouldn't it? Ross

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/17/2006 6:44:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OhReallyNow *though this slave does not enjoy breath play, she does enjoy the feeling of having Master's hand wrap around throat* Then just imagine what his mouth would feel like with his teeth lightly making you aware of their presence. ;) 0 0 VV Ross

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/20/2006 5:26:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania There is something erotic about surrendering to the dark side, but as far as fantasy goes I prefer books and movies like LOTR and WoT (WoT has some fairly erotic and dark imagery as the series progresses) Yes surrendering to the dark side can be very enticing and delicious. Just what was being offered when Darth Vader told Luke come to the dark side? ;) Ross

Lashra -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/20/2006 6:23:05 AM)
I sometimes put my hand firmly on my sub's throat when we are playing/having sex. We enjoy it, I dont apply any pressure in anyway to cut of his air, breathplay isnt our thing. I think these scenes from books appeal because you have an aggressor who is sexually appealing and a willing victim who is just so overcome they cannot protest. Its nonverbal consent because the victim is just so overpowered by their own lust. Remember the scene from Dracula, the one with Keanu Reeves, the scene of Jonathan with the three female vampires in the bed seducing him, taking his blood and how willing and eager he was for it? HOT stuff yet I don't know many men who want a woman biting their cock and sucking the blood from it. Now maybe there are, but I wouldn't wager alot would be interested in it.[;)] Vampires are just hot they are dark, considered evil, erotic and lets face it, blood has an effect on humans hence the word bloodlust. I like to bite and to be bitten, but no breaking of the skin. I do leave some pretty cool bruises though[:D] ~Lashra

knees2you -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/20/2006 10:27:09 AM)
quote: nothign to say just thought i would flounce in with my bare neck exposed hmmm pale enticing flesh lol Carefull what You wish for![sm=trident.gif] Ant, & LilBecque[sm=news.gif]

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/22/2006 3:14:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lashra I think these scenes from books appeal because you have an aggressor who is sexually appealing and a willing victim who is just so overcome they cannot protest. Its nonverbal consent because the victim is just so overpowered by their own lust. Remember the scene from Dracula, the one with Keanu Reeves, the scene of Jonathan with the three female vampires in the bed seducing him, taking his blood and how willing and eager he was for it? HOT stuff yet I don't know many men who want a woman biting their cock and sucking the blood from it. Now maybe there are, but I wouldn't wager alot would be interested in it.[;)] Vampires are just hot they are dark, considered evil, erotic and lets face it, blood has an effect on humans hence the word bloodlust. Overpowered by their own unbridled lust. So is the vampire a mirror of their lust and just a catalyst amplifying what already exists? Or is the vampire an overpowering seduction that can not be resisted regardless of choice? Ross

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/22/2006 3:16:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lashra HOT stuff yet I don't know many men who want a woman biting their cock and sucking the blood from it. Now maybe there are, but I wouldn't wager alot would be interested in it.[;)] Neither do I yet sometimes fantasies are put into action. Maybe someone could enlighten us to the fact if indeed this has been done. Ross

SirDiscipliner69 -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/22/2006 3:17:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lashra bloodlust. I like to bite and to be bitten, but no breaking of the skin. I do leave some pretty cool bruises though[:D] So who has had the skin or broken skin and enjoyed it? Ross

missturbation -> RE: Taking of a victim by throat erotic or violent in nature? (9/22/2006 12:58:48 PM)
Yes but is that because they are under the spell of something bigger and stronger than them? I think a certain amount of hypnotism is implied in vampire films yes. So if it were so over powering as to be hypnotic or trance induced that would not be with free will consent now would it? I find submitting and all that goes with it quite hypnotic and indeed sometimes trance like - does that make my submission non-consensual. BTW...step over here in the shadows and let Me see your neck My neck is unmarked - as of yet! However sounds like stepping into the shadows with you would soon cure that.

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