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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 10:09:54 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: Sunshine119


In my own experience, I being highly orgasmic, can "cum on command" as long as we are engaged in actual intercourse AND he gives permission as I am already starting to cum (not quite cumming on command).  HOWEVER, "His Highness" started working on the opposite......keeping me from having an orgasm until he was ready for me to have one.  This produced a disaster that only left me frustrated and angry. I would get worked up until ready to orgasm, he would tell me no and then I  was unable to orgasm at all during that sexual encounter.....even if permission was given later. 




Orgasm denial is delicious, and so is orgasming in this way on demand. He waits until I am almost there and then gives me permission, or doesn't, delayed orgasm is quite intense from my point of view

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 3:53:51 PM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		Cumming on command i think that woukld kinda tak the fun out of it.(unless it is you can't cum unless he commands you too is that what it means?)

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 10:54:41 PM   
MasterNdorei


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Status: offline 		i hope this isn't too off topic....

Is it really a full blown-ROCK-YOUR-WORLD orgasim that occurs on command? Or is it a milder, more tame version?

Humbly,
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 12:57:43 AM   
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 2:25:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

i hope this isn't too off topic....

Is it really a full blown-ROCK-YOUR-WORLD orgasim that occurs on command? Or is it a milder, more tame version?

Humbly,
Master's dorei


For me, it really depends on the situation and what's happening at the time. Sometimes I fight the fact that I'm conditioned this way and *cut my nose off to spite my face* so to speak by trying to resist. When I give in to it, it's more of the *rock your world* type......but humilating at the same time. But that's just me.

agirl

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 3:16:03 AM   
bandit25


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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 4:15:25 AM   
patina


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I am new to this and I worry that I will lose myself if I have to give up to a Master.  I am a very strong willed independent gal.
I do like the lifestyle and certain aspects of it intrique me but others scare me.  Do all Dom demand for you to give up all of yourself.

Thanks

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 11:15:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: patina

Hi
I am new to this and I worry that I will lose myself if I have to give up to a Master.  I am a very strong willed independent gal.
I do like the lifestyle and certain aspects of it intrique me but others scare me.  Do all Dom demand for you to give up all of yourself.

Thanks

Patina


This sounds like a new topic - however, it sounds to me like you just haven't found the right guy there - if your birthyear is correct, you're a Goat in Chinese astrology, which is a fairly stubborn sign, and yet indolent, and thrives best under proper guidance. Many people don't know "who they are" - who they really are,  until they're tested - people of our age are expected to have a better grip on it, and I'm not suggesting that this is neccessarily the case with you - it sound to me like you made the right choices running those two off.

No, it is not neccessary to lose "yourself", probobly not even possible, except for short periods of time - and it is during these times that you may begin to discover who you really are - and that may not mean any less strong willed or independent, perhaps just more appreciative of proper guidance.

Again, I believe you simply haven't met your best match, perhaps you never will (Pigs or Rabbits are the best matches for Goats), but your strong will should serve you well untill you do - just remember, it can also be a weakness if it prevents you from persuing guidance that is in your best interests.

Back to cumming on command: basic operant conditioning, a form of autosuggestion, albeit requiring a great deal of sensitivity to feedback on the part of the conditioner, and "basic" isn't the same as "easy".

Your best strategy here is to describe to your Dom every sensation you are feeling at every stage of the training, in one way or another, as female sexual response is not quite as blatant as the male.

I would suggest bringing yourself ot the edge with as little manual stimulation as possible, and attempting to maintain it to facilitate the training - something that women, I know, have difficulty with sometimes - sort of the equivilant of sporadic ED in men, but again, largely a matter of self-operant conditioning - you might have to use your imagination a bit, use external stimulus such as pornography, but also scents, sounds, etc., though you don't want to become overly conditioned to those unless it's part of the plan.

Repeated iterations may be neccessary, as you reach near peak and fall off.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 1:00:47 PM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		This is practiced without intent in a lot of nilla relationships too..  the few long term nillas i have spoken to aobut it have signals that pass between them, and conditioning to a partner is a universal thing i think.

After years of being together, Hubby can tell when i'm close, and His response to that is to grin and nod 3 times.  (ok, so He is now conditioned to MY response, lol)   After that happening so many times over the years just as i'm ready to go..  of course i will respond to it if the same grin and nod is given earlier than the last time, until eventually the signal prompts more than the sensations do. 

But anyone that has been with me in an intimate way knows that it's so difficult to get me to that point,  insisting that i come just adds pressure that will remove all possibility that i'm going to, so kwiiit it!   And to deny me permission to come would just be silly...  i deny myself permission enough. Why complicate matters?

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 1:52:22 PM   
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 2:18:35 PM   
WhyteRavenne


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Status: offline 		Not everyone enjoys orgasms, or orgasms on command (I'll wait for the gasp to finish).  I am not alone, here, but, I will say this: for some people (unfortuantely, I've only come across women), orgasm is such a pain in the butt (not the good kind, here, people), that it isn't worth the effort to do.  For some, having a command to do it helps release inhibitions and allows the body to do it.  For others, (myself, included), if someone stops me, tells me to wait, etc., my moment is gone, and will take a good few hours of absolutely no play, to calm the sensitive skin enough to try, again.  So, I'm just throwing another view point into the stew of no right or wrongs!  (As to orgasm itself.  I can jill one off in 2 minutes by myself)

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 2:21:07 PM   
michaelGA2


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Status: offline 		this subject has always been a bit fascinating and i am intrigued by the ramifications regarding the one word trigger. sounds like fun.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 4:17:16 PM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: bandit25

New word for me, defenestrate.  Thanks, LaM.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 4:31:24 PM   
twicehappy


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ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

Is it really a full blown-ROCK-YOUR-WORLD orgasim that occurs on command? Or is it a milder, more tame version?


Lol, for me it is a wall clawing, sheet soaking, neighbors three blocks away hear the screaming orgasm.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 4:41:38 PM   
LillieRose


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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterNdorei

Is it really a full blown-ROCK-YOUR-WORLD orgasim that occurs on command? Or is it a milder, more tame version?


Lol, for me it is a wall clawing, sheet soaking, neighbors three blocks away hear the screaming orgasm.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 4:42:56 PM   
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 4:54:46 PM   
twicehappy


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ORIGINAL: bandit25

New word for me, defenestrate.  Thanks, LaM.


If you like that word try these; exsanguinate, eviscerate

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 5:22:40 PM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

Why do so many women complain of being denied orgasms for years in a vanilla relationship... having to fake orgasms... then seek out a bdsm relationship in which they are denied orgasm, and adore it? 


Because it is not postponed for years, only usually for a few minutes

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/18/2006 6:56:23 PM   
Shalyn


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ORIGINAL: ayasha

The amount of time it takes would vary by person, one would think.  And yes, it is possible - was trained to do it long-distance - over the phone and internet.  Was amazed, did not think it was possible - but it definitely is.  The trigger word worked when either Him or His partner (a Domme) said it, but not when anyone else used it. 

It can happen - don't worry about it, just relax and enjoy the journey - let it take you by surprise..........................




It can happen. Like you, I have been trained over the phone to orgasm on command. It took me a little time to get out of my shyness but once I decided to just let myself go, it worked. Its a matter of how much you are willing to give into your Master. Now when we are on the phone, His voice is all i hear and it is a mind blowing orgasm when He tells me "Now". But it only works with Him, not other people.

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